Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Great Minarchistan]

If 4000 people are shot by police

What the fuck? First it was 1000, then 2000. Now 4000? Are you tracing an exponential now?

[Gig em Aggies]

Well, they are about 8 times more likely to commit homicide than a white person. After all, statistically a black person is more likely to be incarcerat ed in any given year than a gun owner is to harm someone.

Poverty not race breads crime.

boy your a bright one aren't you. look at this that i pulled from the Henry J Kaiser Family Foundation website it details poverty levels by race/ethnicity between white, black, Hispanic, and other

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicat ... 2asc%22%7D

[Telconi]

once again you fail to read your own source as it states only 1,382 people died out of 4,000 that were shot in the 50 biggest local police departments which doesn't equate to the entire US police force quit generalizing and misquoting articles if i were your professor id give you an Zero for not quoting your sources properly.

If 4000 people are shot by police in just the 50 biggest forced per year then yes we have a problem and more poeple are killed/injured then that because its not accounting for everyone. This is why everyone needs to be disarmed so that we are not all assumed to have guns.

"If 4,000 people are murdered by black folks per year then yes we have a problem. This is why we need to make them folks' property again, because they cannot commit crimes if they're working in cotton fields"

^This is literally how awful you sound.

[Gig em Aggies]

once again you fail to read your own source as it states only 1,382 people died out of 4,000 that were shot in the 50 biggest local police departments which doesn't equate to the entire US police force quit generalizing and misquoting articles if i were your professor id give you an Zero for not quoting your sources properly.

If 4000 people are shot by police in just the 50 biggest forced per year then yes we have a problem and more poeple are killed/injured then that because its not accounting for everyone. This is why everyone needs to be disarmed so that we are not all assumed to have guns.

except for the fact the you fail to understand that criminals who break the laws in the US wont follow gun laws and they will still get them if not from within then they will go to Canada, Mexico, Central or South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, hell they can even make there own guns using common tools found in machine shops across the US.

[Great Minarchistan]

I love how Keshiland is voluntarily ignorant, enough at the point of refusing to divide two numbers and reach to the conclusion that gun deaths are statistically irrelevant. But let's ban them, I hate those spooky nominal numbers!

[Republic of Keshiland]

If 4000 people are shot by police in just the 50 biggest forced per year then yes we have a problem and more poeple are killed/injured then that because its not accounting for everyone. This is why everyone needs to be disarmed so that we are not all assumed to have guns.

except for the fact the you fail to understand that criminals who break the laws in the US wont follow gun laws and they will still get them if not from within then they will go to Canada, Mexico, Central or South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, hell they can even make there own guns using common tools found in machine shops across the US.

So having the law on the books banning guns will make police less paranoid and they will hold less people at gunpoint at traffic stops

[Gig em Aggies]

I love how Keshiland is voluntarily ignorant, enough at the point of refusing to divide two numbers and reach to the conclusion that gun deaths are statistically irrelevant. But let's ban them, I hate those spooky nominal numbers!

nah its more like "let's ban people who are smarter then me" it's like were reenacting the entire movie of Idiocracy where were the stupid people and keshi is like Luke Wilson/ Captain Average Joe aka Not Sure.

[Gig em Aggies]

except for the fact the you fail to understand that criminals who break the laws in the US wont follow gun laws and they will still get them if not from within then they will go to Canada, Mexico, Central or South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, hell they can even make there own guns using common tools found in machine shops across the US.

So having the law on the books banning guns will make police less paranoid and they will hold less people at gunpoint at traffic stops

so tell me do these "magical" thoughts of yours come with a side of sauce? plus so you would rather have hundreds if not thousands of cops die each year at the hands of criminals do you not watch YouTube of videos that show people shooting at cops without knowing what they were pulled over for? wow you just get better and better.

here take a gander at this http://www.newsweek.com/missouri-police ... 017-647464 see this number here is small because officers carry guns no if it were only criminals who carried guns then the number in the story would be oh so much higher.

[Republic of Keshiland]

So having the law on the books banning guns will make police less paranoid and they will hold less people at gunpoint at traffic stops

so tell me do these "magical" thoughts of yours come with a side of sauce?

Are you okay with having to prove to police you are not armed or going to use a gun to not be shot? Or do you prefer that they don't draw a gun if you don't have your gun out?

[Wysten]

so tell me do these "magical" thoughts of yours come with a side of sauce?

Are you okay with having to prove to police you are not armed or going to use a gun to not be shot? Or do you prefer that they don't draw a gun if you don't have your gun out?

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

[Gig em Aggies]

Are you okay with having to prove to police you are not armed or going to use a gun to not be shot? Or do you prefer that they don't draw a gun if you don't have your gun out?

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

It's like i always say if you just do what the police tell you then everything will be okay. but that's not Keshi he prefers to break every law under the Constitution.

[Republic of Keshiland]

Are you okay with having to prove to police you are not armed or going to use a gun to not be shot? Or do you prefer that they don't draw a gun if you don't have your gun out?

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

Until the police gives you contradicting orders.

[Wysten]

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

Until the police gives you contradicting orders.

Because let's point out one situation where a possible threat was involved but not everyday situations.

[The Two Jerseys]

so tell me do these "magical" thoughts of yours come with a side of sauce?

Are you okay with having to prove to police you are not armed or going to use a gun to not be shot? Or do you prefer that they don't draw a gun if you don't have your gun out?

Are you okay with cops getting killed because they let their guard down and got shot by a criminal carrying a gun?

[Gig em Aggies]

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

Until the police gives you contradicting orders.

You know what you do then? Just keep your hands up high away from your person then get on your knee's or lay flat on the ground and wait to be put in handcuffs.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

And than he activates the built in spellchecker in firefox and things only get worse. Like right now, 50% of the words in your post are flagging up as misspelled. And the corrections offered are... shall we say useless. You'll just have to learn to live with those of us who know english only in passing and are content to newer care much for your rules.

Either that or he could do something that everyone else does: proofread what you write.

Y'd think that'd be a thing when that apparently is his job as an intern for the Governor of Maryland.

Yeah thats called complying with police and not being a smartass normal people do it all the time.

Until the police gives you contradicting orders.

Police, drill-instuctors, and any manager or leader in the history ever; generally tend to avoid contradicting themselves.

Interns of state senators kinda have to look-out for them and make sure they don't flip-flop multiple times on a subject in a single speech... gives some pretty bad mixed messeges, y'hear?

[Republic of Keshiland]

Until the police gives you contradicting orders.

Because let's point out one situation where a possible threat was involved but not everyday situations.

Who ever called the police should be charged. People should have to be 100% certain that its a gun before they call 911. They couple in the hot tub cost the man his life over false accusations

[The Two Jerseys]

Because let's point out one situation where a possible threat was involved but not everyday situations.

Who ever called the police should be charged. People should have to be 100% certain that its a gun before they call 911. They couple in the hot tub cost the man his life over false accusations

That's a great way to encourage people to never call 911.

Why do you want criminals to get away with crimes, Keshi?

[Gig em Aggies]

Because let's point out one situation where a possible threat was involved but not everyday situations.

Who ever called the police should be charged. People should have to be 100% certain that its a gun before they call 911. They couple in the hot tub cost the man his life over false accusations

You know the police treat anything that looks like a gun as a gun until they can be 99-100% sure it's not a gun that's standard procedure. And no they shouldn't the people who called 911 aren't charged with a crime unles they misuse 911 or they make something up out of the blue not because they misidentifiy an object as a gun.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Interesting. What leads you to believe guns are so bad?

That we have more deaths by the hands of Americans with guns then by terrorist attacks by terrorist organizations. Also because of guns we have the most murderous police force in the world. A study just came out that showed over 2000 people a year are shot or killed by police in the US. Lastly over 83K people are injured by guns each year. This is why I hate guns.

We also have more deaths to random lightning strikes than by terror attacks. Your ideas are retarded as always Keshi.

[Reploid Productions]

That awkward moment when someone from the UK criticizes gun control efforts in the US knowing they are 100% safe from the carnage that ensues as a result of lack of gun control. Of course, it's easier to judge when a law allowing nukes in the hands of citizens would not affect you in the slightest so there is no incentive for you to support making America safer or visa versa.

Flamebaiting. Contributes nothing to the topic of discussion and is little more than a baity jab at another player.

Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun

Trolling gun supporters.

So they are liberals lol they are not the gun users.

Trolling liberals and gun owners/users.

Liberals get high conservatives get drunk and libertarians go anarchy and greens plant trees

A four-for-one trolling liberals, conservatives, libertarians, and Green party folks.

Keshi, you've already lost one nation for a laundry list of rule violations. You've racked up a huge number of violations on this nation, with two warnings and two different forum bans that had to be escalated from their original lengths (1 day to 3 day, 1 week to 2 weeks) due to how prevalent the problem behaviors are. You literally just got off a two-week ban. You're flirting with losing a second nation due to how quickly you're building up a warning history, I was very seriously considering it for posts like the above and your earlier minor threadjacks about the makeup of the SCOTUS and the voting in Alabama, neither of which were related to the thread topic. In the spirit of the holiday season however, you're getting some leniency and not getting deleted tonight.
*** Republic of Keshiland, 2-week ban for flamebaiting/trolling and a side of minor threadjacking. ***

Nope, we are not going to indulge your little authoritarian fantasies again, Keshiland.

You can argue against someone's "fantasies" without making a post that is nothing but a cheap flamebaity jab at the player. Knock it off.

If it came with private residences being turned into army barracks, it would definitely have Keshi's vote.

Second verse, same as the first. Just because someone's arguments are aggravating doesn't give you a free pass to bait them, too. Quit it.

He sure does seem to put a lot of value in making people's lives worse.

Do you hate black folks too?

"If 4,000 people are murdered by black folks per year then yes we have a problem. This is why we need to make them folks' property again, because they cannot commit crimes if they're working in cotton fields"

^This is literally how awful you sound.

As with above, someone being aggravating to debate with doesn't give you a pass to flamebait in response. And unlike above, you've got substantially more of a warning history.
*** Telconi, 1-day ban for flamebaiting. ***

I love how Keshiland is voluntarily ignorant, enough at the point of refusing to divide two numbers and reach to the conclusion that gun deaths are statistically irrelevant. But let's ban them, I hate those spooky nominal numbers!

Fourth verse, same as the first. Aggravation =/= free pass to flame/flamebait. And like Telconi, your record isn't particularly tidy either.
*** Great Minarchistan, 1-day ban for flaming. ***

nah its more like "let's ban people who are smarter then me" it's like were reenacting the entire movie of Idiocracy where were the stupid people and keshi is like Luke Wilson/ Captain Average Joe aka Not Sure.

but that's not Keshi he prefers to break every law under the Constitution.

Fifth verse, same as the first. And you've got a "DEAT on next offense" notation on your rap sheet from September. In the spirit of the holiday and after reviewing your track record and the posts in question however, I feel a DEAT is a bit much due to time elapsed and the offense in question.
*** Gig em Aggies, 3-day ban for flaming/flamebaiting. ***

If you cannot stand Keshiland's posting habits, argument style, and so on, USE YOUR FOES LIST. It is there for a reason. Save yourselves and the mods the headache of sifting through these spats and having to spray red paint everywhere!


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Big Jim P]

New Hogue grips for my SP101 should improve my gun control considerably.

[Gun Manufacturers]

HOW?

Because its 1 person from each party (appointed by the partys) and a leftist liberal and a rightist conservative. Since they would have to be unanimous you know it will not be screwed left of right.

Since they would have to be unanimous, we know they won't all agree. Besides, we already have a Constitutionally mandated body for interpreting the Constitution, it's called the Supreme Court. This commission you suggest has no authority to determine an amendment's interpretation, whereas the Supreme Court does.

[Gun Manufacturers]

How about this if you want a gun you must pass military training (not serve)

No.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

How about this if you want a gun you must pass military training (not serve)

How does that ensure good conduct?