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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:57 pm

Bulls Bay wrote:There should be mandatory drug tests for anyone that wants to buy a gun. There should also be a very thorough background check and if the owner has been jailed for a serious offense, they should not e able to buy a gun. People also need to remember that people kill people gun or not.


NO!

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:15 pm

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The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

HOW?


Because its 1 person from each party (appointed by the partys) and a leftist liberal and a rightist conservative. Since they would have to be unanimous you know it will not be screwed left of right.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:16 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Bulls Bay wrote:There should be mandatory drug tests for anyone that wants to buy a gun. There should also be a very thorough background check and if the owner has been jailed for a serious offense, they should not e able to buy a gun. People also need to remember that people kill people gun or not.


NO!


Surely you don't want to have people taking mind altering substences to be armed right?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
NO!


Surely you don't want to have people taking mind altering substances to be armed right?


I have not and will never be in favor of any prerequisites to exercise an enumerated Right.

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:22 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Surely you don't want to have people taking mind altering substances to be armed right?


I have not and will never be in favor of any prerequisites to exercise an enumerated Right.


So we should not test food stamp recipients either right? Also if you are not allowed to drive a car Under The Influence you damn sure should not have guns. Are you really going to let someone who is living with a abusive drinker be at the mercy or an armed abusive drinker?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:27 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
I have not and will never be in favor of any prerequisites to exercise an enumerated Right.


So we should not test food stamp recipients either right? Also if you are not allowed to drive a car Under The Influence you damn sure should not have guns. Are you really going to let someone who is living with a abusive drinker be at the mercy or an armed abusive drinker?


What in the holy fuck does welfare and driving have anything to do with this, none of those are an enumerated Right. Christ would you fucking quit with the god damn emotional pleas and strawmen.

No law can prevent, laws are passed to punish, as such we have laws that punish those who break the law.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:30 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
I have not and will never be in favor of any prerequisites to exercise an enumerated Right.


So we should not test food stamp recipients either right? Also if you are not allowed to drive a car Under The Influence you damn sure should not have guns. Are you really going to let someone who is living with a abusive drinker be at the mercy or an armed abusive drinker?


>Abusive drinker...

>Pops a drug test...

Do you even understand how drug tests work?
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
So we should not test food stamp recipients either right? Also if you are not allowed to drive a car Under The Influence you damn sure should not have guns. Are you really going to let someone who is living with a abusive drinker be at the mercy or an armed abusive drinker?


>Abusive drinker...

>Pops a drug test...

Do you even understand how drug tests work?


Yes they check for drug blood levels.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:42 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Abusive drinker...

>Pops a drug test...

Do you even understand how drug tests work?


Yes they check for drug blood levels.


And what is in an abusive drinker's blood stream that would disqualify him?
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:45 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Yes they check for drug blood levels.


And what is in an abusive drinker's blood stream that would disqualify him?


Alcohol
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:46 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And what is in an abusive drinker's blood stream that would disqualify him?


Alcohol


So, you understand drug tests, but not drinking... interesting...
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:47 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And what is in an abusive drinker's blood stream that would disqualify him?


Alcohol

So there aren't any abusers who are sober or non drinkers?

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:49 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Alcohol

So there aren't any abusers who are sober or non drinkers?


No, apparently all abusers are perpetually drunk.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:So there aren't any abusers who are sober or non drinkers?


No, apparently all abusers are perpetually drunk.


I am talking about people who are only abusive when drunk.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:59 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
No, apparently all abusers are perpetually drunk.


I am talking about people who are only abusive when drunk.


But he'd have to be drunk when he went to buy his gun or else your drug test scheme would only take guns away from your precious stoners.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:03 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Topoliani wrote:HOW?


Because its 1 person from each party (appointed by the partys) and a leftist liberal and a rightist conservative. Since they would have to be unanimous you know it will not be screwed left of right.

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I am talking about people who are only abusive when drunk.


But he'd have to be drunk when he went to buy his gun or else your drug test scheme would only take guns away from your precious stoners.


So they are liberals lol they are not the gun users.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:09 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But he'd have to be drunk when he went to buy his gun or else your drug test scheme would only take guns away from your precious stoners.


So they are liberals lol they are not the gun users.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So only liberals smoke pot?

Or maybe you mean liberals don't own guns...
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
So they are liberals lol they are not the gun users.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So only liberals smoke pot?

Or maybe you mean liberals don't own guns...


Liberals get high conservatives get drunk and libertarians go anarchy and greens plant trees
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:14 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So only liberals smoke pot?

Or maybe you mean liberals don't own guns...


Liberals get high conservatives get drunk and libertarians go anarchy and greens plant trees


:lol: :lol:

Oh, wait, you're serious...

:rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:14 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So only liberals smoke pot?

Or maybe you mean liberals don't own guns...


Liberals get high conservatives get drunk and libertarians go anarchy and greens plant trees

or how bout you quit using factors that dont figure into the gun control debate at all mhhhhhhh? plus people from all parties get high, drunk, go crazy sometimes, or plant trees. once again you astound me at the lack of critical thinking you have with everything you say, that sad part is your also a college student.
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How about this if you want a gun you must pass military training (not serve)
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:16 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Liberals get high conservatives get drunk and libertarians go anarchy and greens plant trees

or how bout you quit using factors that dont figure into the gun control debate at all mhhhhhhh? plus people from all parties get high, drunk, go crazy sometimes, or plant trees. once again you astound me at the lack of critical thinking you have with everything you say, that sad part is your also a college student.



He astounds you? I'm impressed by the level of critical thinking demonstrated.
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Republic of Keshiland wrote:How about this if you want a gun you must pass military training (not serve)


>Idea coming from Keshiland.

Into the trash it goes.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:19 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:How about this if you want a gun you must pass military training (not serve)

hahahahaha wait let me laugh harder hahahahahaha you wish. plus how will YOU pay for all this to be implemented?
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