Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[New Emeline]

Apparently Kyle Kashuv, a pro-gun Parkland student, has challenged Hogg to a debate about gun control.

No way the little shit would accept, but it would be fun to see.

How come there were like 3,000 students in that school and yet the media only ever lets us hear from a select handful of them?

If "the media" only let you here a select few, how would you have heard of Kyle Kashuv?
Additionally, I can't blame the kids for not wanting to be in the spotlight. Just look at the way people are treating the ones who are.

[Kernen]

Children don't understand public policy. News at 11.

[Albrenia]

Apparently Kyle Kashuv, a pro-gun Parkland student, has challenged Hogg to a debate about gun control.

No way the little shit would accept, but it would be fun to see.

How come there were like 3,000 students in that school and yet the media only ever lets us hear from a select handful of them?

If "the media" only let you here a select few, how would you have heard of Kyle Kashuv?

Shh, that doesn't fit the narrative.

[Kramanica]

Apparently Kyle Kashuv, a pro-gun Parkland student, has challenged Hogg to a debate about gun control.

No way the little shit would accept, but it would be fun to see.

How come there were like 3,000 students in that school and yet the media only ever lets us hear from a select handful of them?

Maybe most don't want to enter the political arena to be smeared by whichever side they disagree with?

And what about those who do like the one i just mentioned?

[New Emeline]

If "the media" only let you here a select few, how would you have heard of Kyle Kashuv?

Shh, that doesn't fit the narrative.

[New Emeline]

Maybe most don't want to enter the political arena to be smeared by whichever side they disagree with?

And what about those who do like the one i just mentioned?

If the big bad media is trying to silence them, they evidently aren't doing a very good job of it.

[Kramanica]

Apparently Kyle Kashuv, a pro-gun Parkland student, has challenged Hogg to a debate about gun control.

No way the little shit would accept, but it would be fun to see.

How come there were like 3,000 students in that school and yet the media only ever lets us hear from a select handful of them?

If "the media" only let you here a select few, how would you have heard of Kyle Kashuv?
Additionally, I can't blame the kids for not wanting to be in the spotlight. Just look at the way people are treating the ones who are.

I mean, it might get reported on but it won't be front page news and they certainly won't end up on the cover of Time wearing no shoes.

[Albrenia]

Maybe most don't want to enter the political arena to be smeared by whichever side they disagree with?

And what about those who do like the one i just mentioned?

They'd be the ones you hear of. I don't expect all 3,000 students to suddenly become nagging politicians on either side, some might be smart enough to keep out of the news and go on with their lives.

[New Emeline]

If "the media" only let you here a select few, how would you have heard of Kyle Kashuv?
Additionally, I can't blame the kids for not wanting to be in the spotlight. Just look at the way people are treating the ones who are.

I mean, it might get reported on but it won't be front page news and they certainly won't end up on the cover of Time wearing no shoes.

Not promoting someone isn't the same as not allowing you to hear from them...

[Northwest Slobovia]

That's just bad politics in general. "Give us what we want or we'll take it from you!" is hardly a way to convince the other side. And since the other side holds the Congress and the Presidency, it's unlikely to get them anything.

The other side is sadly infected with the belief in "Right side of historyism" they see all of the above as a minor setback against their "Inevitable" total victory where everyone who doesn't agree with them will be forced to submit.

I seem to remember the Soviet Union having the same belief once.

This is also not such hot politics:

The students said they won’t be satisfied without an assaults weapons ban, waiting periods on purchases, restrictions on magazines and universal background checks.

“When they give us that inch — that bump stock ban — we will take a mile,” proclaimed Delaney Tarr, another Marjory Stoneman Douglas student leader. “We are not here for breadcrumbs.

It's great preaching to the choir, but they've just written political ad copy for every gun-rights organization in the country.

I suspect the Democrats will take the House this year, and have a fair shot at the Senate, but even if they do, not by enough to overcome a veto.

(For the record, while an assault™-style weapons® ban is worthless, I might be in favor of the other three, depending on the details. For example, a 24-hour waiting period on gun purchases will probably prevent some crimes, but much longer than that seems an undue burden on legitimate gun buyers.)

[Kramanica]

And what about those who do like the one i just mentioned?

If the big bad media is trying to silence them, they evidently aren't doing a very good job of it.

Debate me, not strawman me.

I didn't say they were trying to silence them. My point is that they aren't proping them up like they're doing with Hogg and that one skinhead woman whose name escapes me.

[Sovaal]

The other side is sadly infected with the belief in "Right side of historyism" they see all of the above as a minor setback against their "Inevitable" total victory where everyone who doesn't agree with them will be forced to submit.

I seem to remember the Soviet Union having the same belief once.

This is also not such hot politics:

The students said they won’t be satisfied without an assaults weapons ban, waiting periods on purchases, restrictions on magazines and universal background checks.

“When they give us that inch — that bump stock ban — we will take a mile,” proclaimed Delaney Tarr, another Marjory Stoneman Douglas student leader. “We are not here for breadcrumbs.

It's great preaching to the choir, but they've just written political ad copy for every gun-rights organization in the country.

I suspect the Democrats will take the House this year, and have a fair shot at the Senate, but even if they do, not by enough to overcome a veto.

(For the record, while an assault™-style weapons® ban is worthless, I might be in favor of the other three, depending on the details. For example, a 24-hour waiting period on gun purchases will probably prevent some crimes, but much longer than that seems an undue burden on legitimate gun buyers.)

Magazine restrictions would do absolutely shit-all.

[Albrenia]

If the big bad media is trying to silence them, they evidently aren't doing a very good job of it.

Debate me, not strawman me.

I didn't say they were trying to silence them. My point is that they aren't proping them up like they're doing with Hogg and that one skinhead woman whose name escapes me.

Businesses sell to their customers. I guess the more lefty media like reporting stories lefties will buy into, and right-wing media for its audience.

It's not a good thing, but it's not a conspiracy against only your side. It's just greed.

[New Emeline]

If the big bad media is trying to silence them, they evidently aren't doing a very good job of it.

Debate me, not strawman me.

I didn't say they were trying to silence them. My point is that they aren't proping them up like they're doing with Hogg and that one skinhead woman whose name escapes me.

"skinhead woman"
Alrighty.
And you were implying censorship when you said "how come the media is only allowing us to see a select few"
Allowing, not propping up.

[Kramanica]

And what about those who do like the one i just mentioned?

They'd be the ones you hear of. I don't expect all 3,000 students to suddenly become nagging politicians on either side, some might be smart enough to keep out of the news and go on with their lives.

I don't think you're really understanding, well, anything.

[Kramanica]

Debate me, not strawman me.

I didn't say they were trying to silence them. My point is that they aren't proping them up like they're doing with Hogg and that one skinhead woman whose name escapes me.

Businesses sell to their customers. I guess the more lefty media like reporting stories lefties will buy into, and right-wing media for its audience.

It's not a good thing, but it's not a conspiracy against only your side. It's just greed.

I didn't imply or state that it was a conspiracy.

[Kramanica]

I mean, it might get reported on but it won't be front page news and they certainly won't end up on the cover of Time wearing no shoes.

Not promoting someone isn't the same as not allowing you to hear from them...

It is when they're barely covered at all.

[Kramanica]

Debate me, not strawman me.

I didn't say they were trying to silence them. My point is that they aren't proping them up like they're doing with Hogg and that one skinhead woman whose name escapes me.

"skinhead woman"
Alrighty.
And you were implying censorship when you said "how come the media is only allowing us to see a select few"
Allowing, not propping up.

No, I wasn't. That doesn't imply anything.

[New Emeline]

"skinhead woman"
Alrighty.
And you were implying censorship when you said "how come the media is only allowing us to see a select few"
Allowing, not propping up.

No, I wasn't. That doesn't imply anything.

To say that they are "allowing" only a select few has the pretty clear implication that they aren't allowing you to see the others.

[Albrenia]

They'd be the ones you hear of. I don't expect all 3,000 students to suddenly become nagging politicians on either side, some might be smart enough to keep out of the news and go on with their lives.

I don't think you're really understanding, well, anything.

The pro-gun students have plenty of outlets which would jump at the chance to tell their story. Hell, Fox News ran with the 'evil CNN put words in my mouth' kid and his dad until they found it was all a hoax.

[New Emeline]

I don't think that the opinions of children/teenagers should be held above all others but resorting to insulting and ridiculing them isn't exactly a good look.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I don't think that the opinions of children/teenagers should be held above all others but resorting to insulting and ridiculing them isn't exactly a good look.

Being undeserving of ridicule is a good way not to be ridiculed. Sure, be inspired by your personal experiences- but being ignorant about the very laws you are proposing be changed is exactly worthy of ridicule.

[Arengin Union]

I don't think that the opinions of children/teenagers should be held above all others but resorting to insulting and ridiculing them isn't exactly a good look.

A lot of pro gun people get insulted and ridiculed on a daily basis by the same people complaining about the people that insult and ridicule these teens that are trying to play policy makers. Politics is a harsh world in which if you piss where people drink they'll shit where you eat. Not that that's okay but it's reality.

[The Lone Alliance]

I don't think that the opinions of children/teenagers should be held above all others but resorting to insulting and ridiculing them isn't exactly a good look.

That's the only way you can defeat people who are run by feels, you hurt their self esteem to the point that they run into a corner crying about their feels. Nothing they suggest is run by reason or logic, they just want to "Feel" safe.

[The Black Forrest]

I don't think that the opinions of children/teenagers should be held above all others but resorting to insulting and ridiculing them isn't exactly a good look.

Makes it hard to tell who are the adults and who are the children.