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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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40%
JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Stellar Colonies
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:13 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:As if the party I vote for has any bearing on my political beliefs, it really doesn't. But the point stands. You are not socialist. I have talked to many people who are, and I can guarantee that you do not fit the bill.


If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.

Unless there isn't a socialist party to vote for...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:14 pm

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NewLiberalParty wrote:
Yeah your centrist at most. Repeal of the 2A should be your goal and wish. But we will use your vote for socialist policies until it is no longer needed then you can go back to the gun party

I see you upgraded that shovel for a backhoe, keep digging that hole, keep digging, you can do it!

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More like a dragline...
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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:15 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:As if the party I vote for has any bearing on my political beliefs, it really doesn't. But the point stands. You are not socialist. I have talked to many people who are, and I can guarantee that you do not fit the bill.


If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.


I vote for whatever party I feel like. Usually one that tends to lean towards not imposing "Common sense" gun control.

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The New California Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:15 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:As if the party I vote for has any bearing on my political beliefs, it really doesn't. But the point stands. You are not socialist. I have talked to many people who are, and I can guarantee that you do not fit the bill.


If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.

Ha. No. Wrong. It is possible to be socialist and not vote, or even vote tactically. Try again Kesh. But anyway this is all irrelevant from the main point: you are far removed from being socialist, and being pro-gun doesn't automatically exclude someone from the left.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:15 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.

Unless there isn't a socialist party to vote for...


Every country in the free world minus the US has a labour party Canada has the NDP most in Europe are just called labour and most have a socialist party. Labour counts as socialist.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:16 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.

Ha. No. Wrong. It is possible to be socialist and not vote, or even vote tactically. Try again Kesh. But anyway this is all irrelevant from the main point: you are far removed from being socialist, and being pro-gun doesn't automatically exclude someone from the left.


Of course it does. The USSR hated weapons.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:17 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Unless there isn't a socialist party to vote for...


Every country in the free world minus the US has a labour party Canada has the NDP most in Europe are just called labour and most have a socialist party. Labour counts as socialist.


What party do you vote for?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:17 pm

Hey Keshi, what's your thoughts on Karl Marx opposing gun control? Was he not a real leftist?
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:18 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:Labour counts as socialist.

Nope. Labour hasn't been socialist in years. Even Corbyn's Labour Party isn't really socialist.

But anyway, you are derailing the thread by constantly going on about this.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Every country in the free world minus the US has a labour party Canada has the NDP most in Europe are just called labour and most have a socialist party. Labour counts as socialist.


What party do you vote for?


The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:19 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What party do you vote for?


The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2

Uh...there are more than 2 political parties in The United States...
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Postby Telconi » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:19 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What party do you vote for?


The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2


Whelp, you heard it here folks, Keshi, by his own metrics isn't on the left.
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-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
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-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby The Sheika » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:20 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What party do you vote for?


The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2

Correction; we have two major parties, but there are plenty of others to choose from.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:21 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Puldania wrote:NewLiberalParty makes us leftists look bad with their abhorrent grammar and absurd policy ideas


You are not on the left if you support gun rights or the NRA or both. I'm just willing to do the dirty fight to accomplish saving lives. You won't get anywhere through compramise you need to be hard core and voters will come out in droves to vote for the Dems/leftists

Keshi I’m father left than you. I support a lot of syndicalist ideas, and yet I support the right to own guns. Mainly because I believe in arming the working class. Because when you and all of your friends are armed nobody is going to try anything funny
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Postby Kernen » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2


Whelp, you heard it here folks, Keshi, by his own metrics isn't on the left.

We all knew that Keshi is an authoritarian.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:23 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
The democrats because they are the sane one. We only have 2

Uh...there are more than 2 political parties in The United States...

And one is actually socialist!

Guess Keshi isn't actually a socialist then...
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:25 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Uh...there are more than 2 political parties in The United States...

And one is actually socialist!

Guess Keshi isn't actually a socialist then...


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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:I’m father left

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Sorry Therm. I had to. That spelling mistake was just too exploitable.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:25 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:As if the party I vote for has any bearing on my political beliefs, it really doesn't. But the point stands. You are not socialist. I have talked to many people who are, and I can guarantee that you do not fit the bill.


If you vote for a party that is not labour or socialist then you can't be socialist.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:26 pm

Back onto the topic...

Looks promising.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:27 pm

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Unless there isn't a socialist party to vote for...


Every country in the free world minus the US has a labour party Canada has the NDP most in Europe are just called labour and most have a socialist party. Labour counts as socialist.

The socialist party usa would like to teach you a lesson
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:28 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m father left

Image

Sorry Therm. I had to. That spelling mistake was just too exploitable.

Fuck... well I guess I’m Marx now
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:29 pm

United Anti-Kekistanian Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Why am I going to open carry? It makes no gooddamn sense




I think everyone above the age of 18 should get an AR-14. Ev4en if their seriously mentally ill. Also, insurance should go up because there will be a lot of wounded people.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:30 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I see you upgraded that shovel for a backhoe, keep digging that hole, keep digging, you can do it!

Backhoe?

More like a dragline


No more like a German Bucket Wheel Excavator
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
United Anti-Kekistanian Republic wrote:


I think everyone above the age of 18 should get an AR-14. Ev4en if their seriously mentally ill. Also, insurance should go up because there will be a lot of wounded people.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?


Common Therm, don't take the obvious bait. :)

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