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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:52 am

Ors Might wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Why? Its all resonable

No it’s not. I don’t know if I’d believe that there’s a single gun owner in America that would accept one fucking bullet capacity firearms. You’d be giving the private gun manufacturers a field day with all the business they’d get.


Only mass killers want unlimited ammo.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:52 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Fuck all of that.


Why? Its all resonable


It's still focusing on the type of gun though.

The gun has nothing to do with who has the hand on the gun. A bolt-action 1 shot per load gun is just as deadly as a semi auto rifle.
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Postby Topoliani » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:53 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Keshi, it's only reasonable because you agree with it

Replace the guns with drugs, I.E Danger level 5 would be Meth, and you would bash it


Drugs minus Alcohol and Tabacco only hurt the User.

Now where did you get that from?

Ever heard of Meth-houses? They are not pretty, and the people who live there have gone nuts and will kill.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:53 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Keshi, it's only reasonable because you agree with it

Replace the guns with drugs, I.E Danger level 5 would be Meth, and you would bash it


Drugs minus Alcohol and Tabacco only hurt the User.


News flash bud, people on all types of drugs drive under the influence and hurt people.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:54 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Why? Its all resonable


It's still focusing on the type of gun though.

The gun has nothing to do with who has the hand on the gun. A bolt-action 1 shot per load gun is just as deadly as a semi auto rifle.


No no its not. You could not carry out any mass shooting over (4 or 5 shot) with a 1 bullet per reload.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:54 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually it was the locomotive that did that but nice try.


Nope because people could run faster then those trains

Holy fuck. The fastest locomotive around the time the car was invented was already going 100mph.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:54 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:No it’s not. I don’t know if I’d believe that there’s a single gun owner in America that would accept one fucking bullet capacity firearms. You’d be giving the private gun manufacturers a field day with all the business they’d get.


Only mass killers want unlimited ammo.

There’s a difference between unlimited ammo and fucking one bullet magazines.

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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:No it’s not. I don’t know if I’d believe that there’s a single gun owner in America that would accept one fucking bullet capacity firearms. You’d be giving the private gun manufacturers a field day with all the business they’d get.


Only mass killers want unlimited ammo.

Does that make me a mass killer then?
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Postby Topoliani » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:No it’s not. I don’t know if I’d believe that there’s a single gun owner in America that would accept one fucking bullet capacity firearms. You’d be giving the private gun manufacturers a field day with all the business they’d get.


Only mass killers want unlimited ammo.

I want unlimited ammo, but that's because I don't want to pay for ammo because Houston is fucking expensive and is draining me of my money.

The thing is, there is no such thing as unlimited ammo except for in video games.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:No it’s not. I don’t know if I’d believe that there’s a single gun owner in America that would accept one fucking bullet capacity firearms. You’d be giving the private gun manufacturers a field day with all the business they’d get.


Only mass killers want unlimited ammo.


Not really. No.

I would like to know I have at least 6 bullets on a revolver. One bullet is a high-risk, high-reward scenario. In a situation where you're faced to shoot at someone to protect yourself, you want to be able to further deter that person with the threat of shooting them again.

I also would like to be able to be sure that I can buy ammo whenever I please.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:56 am

Topoliani wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Drugs minus Alcohol and Tabacco only hurt the User.

Now where did you get that from?

Ever heard of Meth-houses? They are not pretty, and the people who live there have gone nuts and will kill.


The other ones only "hurt" people because they are illegal. If they were legal then no one would be getting hurt by them unlike the abusive drunk fathers beating their wives and kids or the smokers intoxicating their family or the public.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:56 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It's still focusing on the type of gun though.

The gun has nothing to do with who has the hand on the gun. A bolt-action 1 shot per load gun is just as deadly as a semi auto rifle.


No no its not. You could not carry out any mass shooting over (4 or 5 shot) with a 1 bullet per reload.


Mass shootings are not the only type of deaths by guns out there, you know.
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Postby I didnt vote for Trump » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:57 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Nope because people could run faster then those trains

Holy fuck. The fastest locomotive around the time the car was invented was already going 100mph.

I remember back in the day when the ol' locomotive didn't run by my house or at the right time I wanted so I just laid the track myself and bought a locomotive. Totally practical, anybody can do it.

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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:57 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Now where did you get that from?

Ever heard of Meth-houses? They are not pretty, and the people who live there have gone nuts and will kill.


The other ones only "hurt" people because they are illegal. If they were legal then no one would be getting hurt by them unlike the abusive drunk fathers beating their wives and kids or the smokers intoxicating their family or the public.

No they hurt because its a lucrative business but a bloody one at that.
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Postby Topoliani » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:58 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Now where did you get that from?

Ever heard of Meth-houses? They are not pretty, and the people who live there have gone nuts and will kill.


The other ones only "hurt" people because they are illegal. If they were legal then no one would be getting hurt by them unlike the abusive drunk fathers beating their wives and kids or the smokers intoxicating their family or the public.

No, it's because meth fucks with the user's head, do you even know what meth IS?

In fact here's a brief synopsis on dosage,

In low doses, methamphetamine can elevate mood, increase alertness, concentration and energy in fatigued individuals, reduce appetite, and promote weight loss. At higher doses, it can induce psychosis, breakdown of skeletal muscle, seizures and bleeding in the brain. Chronic high-dose use can precipitate unpredictable and rapid mood swings, stimulant psychosis (e.g., paranoia, hallucinations, delirium, and delusions) and violent behavior.

Also, not all alcohol users beat their kids, that's a unfortunate stereotype
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:59 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Now where did you get that from?

Ever heard of Meth-houses? They are not pretty, and the people who live there have gone nuts and will kill.


The other ones only "hurt" people because they are illegal. If they were legal then no one would be getting hurt by them unlike the abusive drunk fathers beating their wives and kids or the smokers intoxicating their family or the public.


Meth and heroin hurt people because they're meth and heroin. That shit will kill you, legal or not.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:00 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
No no its not. You could not carry out any mass shooting over (4 or 5 shot) with a 1 bullet per reload.


Mass shootings are not the only type of deaths by guns out there, you know.


Once again stopping Mass shootings takes priority over stopping other shootings because mass shooting affect those who have avoided being is areas or situations where they get a target on their back by killers.

I know 100% I will not die by targeted murder. I do know that I could end up dead due to a mass shooting. So Mass shootings > Regular shootings for priority of stopping.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:01 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Holy shit Keshi, this is just fucking dumb lol


The early locomotives were really slow. Everyone knows that!

No they where not. The earliest locomotive went 28 mph. Usain Bolt, the fastest human alive, can only go 27mph and only for a short distance.

When the car was invented in 1885 trains where regularly going 70mph
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:01 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:I know 100% I will not die by targeted murder.


Bullshit.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:01 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
The other ones only "hurt" people because they are illegal. If they were legal then no one would be getting hurt by them unlike the abusive drunk fathers beating their wives and kids or the smokers intoxicating their family or the public.


Meth and heroin hurt people because they're meth and heroin. That shit will kill you, legal or not.


Yeah it will kill the users but they are less likely to act out abusively when using it!

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:01 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Mass shootings are not the only type of deaths by guns out there, you know.


Once again stopping Mass shootings takes priority over stopping other shootings because mass shooting affect those who have avoided being is areas or situations where they get a target on their back by killers.

I know 100% I will not die by targeted murder. I do know that I could end up dead due to a mass shooting. So Mass shootings > Regular shootings for priority of stopping.


You're less likely to die by a mass shooting than someone shooting you on the street because they don't like you.

In fact, you have astronomically more chances to be killed by someone in a fucking alley with a gun than someone going postal.
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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Meth and heroin hurt people because they're meth and heroin. That shit will kill you, legal or not.


Yeah it will kill the users but they are less likely to act out abusively when using it!

Actually they will kill just to get their fix.
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Postby Topoliani » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Meth and heroin hurt people because they're meth and heroin. That shit will kill you, legal or not.


Yeah it will kill the users but they are less likely to act out abusively when using it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine#Psychological
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It's still focusing on the type of gun though.

The gun has nothing to do with who has the hand on the gun. A bolt-action 1 shot per load gun is just as deadly as a semi auto rifle.


No no its not. You could not carry out any mass shooting over (4 or 5 shot) with a 1 bullet per reload.

Yes you can. Just carry 100 1 bullet magazines all pre-loaded. We carried at least three pre-loaded magazines when I was in the military
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Meth and heroin hurt people because they're meth and heroin. That shit will kill you, legal or not.


Yeah it will kill the users but they are less likely to act out abusively when using it!


That's bullshit. I know people who have done meth, you're cheapening the effects of meth and heroin on the users.
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