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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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22%
Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
40
6%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
287
40%
JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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The Two Jerseys
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

Clearly you are joking right?

Nope. The public really is going to rise up and vote him into office.

And when he wins, crowds will gather in front of his house waiting for him to appear in the window, and when he does they will start cheering "Duce! Duce!"
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Clearly you are joking right?

Nope. The public really is going to rise up and vote him into office.

And when he wins, crowds will gather in front of his house waiting for him to appear in the window, and when he does they will start cheering "Duce! Duce!"

Needs more Desu.
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Thermodolia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Clearly you are joking right?


Nope total servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

Sure....
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:38 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Clearly you are joking right?

Nope. The public really is going to rise up and vote him into office.

And when he wins, crowds will gather in front of his house waiting for him to appear in the window, and when he does they will start cheering "Duce! Duce!"

Ya sure rocket launchers won’t be involved at any point
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Grinning Dragon
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Anarchy

Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:38 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Clearly you are joking right?


Nope total *servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:39 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Nope total *servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.

Sounds like a mercy to me.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:40 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Nope total *servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.

Id rather be thrown to a bunch of hungry Piranhas
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Ex-Nation

Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:42 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Nope total *servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.

Id rather be thrown to a bunch of hungry Piranhas

Make sure to salt the fields and smash the machines before you go.
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:43 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

And then arrest me for thought crime. Yeah that sounds nice.
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The Two Jerseys
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Father Knows Best State

Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:44 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

The Slave Patrol is making courtesy calls to victims now? That's nice of them.
"The Duke of Texas" is too formal for regular use. Just call me "Your Grace".
"If I would like to watch goodness, sanity, God and logic being fucked I would watch Japanese porn." -Nightkill the Emperor
"This thread makes me wish I was a moron so that I wouldn't have to comprehend how stupid the topic is." -The Empire of Pretantia
Head of State: HM King Louis
Head of Government: The Rt. Hon. James O'Dell MP, Prime Minister
Ambassador to the World Assembly: HE Sir John Ross "J.R." Ewing II, Bt.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:45 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

And then arrest me for thought crime. Yeah that sounds nice.


Nope none of that would happen (exept with this current pres) it would only target threats to society not the avarage joe.
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:45 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:46 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:And then arrest me for thought crime. Yeah that sounds nice.


Nope none of that would happen (exept with this current pres) it would only target threats to society not the avarage joe.

You're absolutely delusional if you think that giving the government absolute power would not be absolutely abused.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby The Sheika » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:46 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

Caught by being listened in on you say? Hmm, there can't be a way around that at all. Definitely not communicating with only pen and paper while discussing something else. Or talking in code, but nobody has ever done that while having their phones tapped. /sarcasm
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:47 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:And then arrest me for thought crime. Yeah that sounds nice.


Nope none of that would happen (exept with this current pres) it would only target threats to society not the avarage joe.

You are entirety missing the point of 1984 and Orwell's writings in general if you perceive Oceania to be a utopia. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the right to bear arms is explicitly meant to prevent Oceania-style totalitarian regimes from forming.

And, what, pray tell, would a "threat to society" constitute? The term has had many meanings over the years, including Jews, Communists, Socialists, homosexuals... do I really need to go on?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:47 am

The Sheika wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

Caught by being listened in on you say? Hmm, there can't be a way around that at all. Definitely not communicating with only pen and paper while discussing something else. Or talking in code, but nobody has ever done that while having their phones tapped. /sarcasm

Sheika, do you know where I can buy a "bunny"?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:48 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

The problem with this is that sometimes people say things such as this in a facetious manner and have zero intent of going through with it. I mean after all there would be a ton of movie producers/writers, etc. sitting in jail because there were planning a crime. Minority Report is a shitty way to run a society.

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Postby The Sheika » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:54 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Sheika wrote:Caught by being listened in on you say? Hmm, there can't be a way around that at all. Definitely not communicating with only pen and paper while discussing something else. Or talking in code, but nobody has ever done that while having their phones tapped. /sarcasm

Sheika, do you know where I can buy a "bunny"?

Yeah, there's this pet shop down on Third and Broadway; run by a man named Vinny. Very knowledgeable with rabbits and he knows a thing or two about snakes, too.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:58 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:* surveillance.

What a shitty way to live, chained and yoked as a slave to the state. Would be better to just stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows.


Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

Is rather that I figured out something was off and called my bank instead of being lulled into a false sense of security
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:18 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Clearly you are joking right?


Nope total servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

That's funny care to explain to us how Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, China, hell even North Korea still have prisons full of people even though all three of those governments can tune into their citizens online doings as well as their phone calls?
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“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Anarchy

Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:20 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Nope total servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

That's funny care to explain to us how Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, China, hell even North Korea still have prisons full of people even though all three of those governments can tune into their citizens online doings as well as their phone calls?

It's quite obvious they had tin foil hats, if only tin foil hats were illegal. :p

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:33 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Nope total servaliance for crime would make a country the least crime-ridden country in the world

That's funny care to explain to us how Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, China, hell even North Korea still have prisons full of people even though all three of those governments can tune into their citizens online doings as well as their phone calls?

They where all evil fascists/communists/westerners/Americans plotting to overthrow the glorious state dear citizen. Now you are asking to many questions so why don’t you come with us
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:That's funny care to explain to us how Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, China, hell even North Korea still have prisons full of people even though all three of those governments can tune into their citizens online doings as well as their phone calls?

They where all evil fascists/communists/westerners/Americans plotting to overthrow the glorious state dear citizen. Now you are asking to many questions so why don’t you come with us

Like hell I will
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Telconi » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:14 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Until the police call you and say X way planning on killing/robbing/steal bank info from you or a family member but we caught him beforehand due to listening to what he said and tracking where he was going.

The Slave Patrol is making courtesy calls to victims now? That's nice of them.


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