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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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6%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:43 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Fuck no.


What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

He isn't hiding anything, he has the enumerated right to privacy and to be secure in his persons and the right for the govt to fuck off until he breaks a law. Why do you hate individual freedoms?
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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:43 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Fuck no.


What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

The Inquisition called they just said you have a couple vacation days available.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:43 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Fuck no.


What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

You do realize there's a 5 to 10 year backlog on ATF house checks just for FFL gun-dealers, right?

House checks for all NFA tax stamps... oh geeze... they don't even do that and it's still a 1 to 2 year backlog of paperwork.

and you want every homeowner to get checked, and re-check annually?

As for underlined portion, you were involved in a Canadian border incident, and had been diagnosed with a mental impairment by your own admission. Those would actually be able to be used for grounds of barring you from military service, or from purchasing a firearm. Possibly even bar you fom voting in most states.
-Posting on NS probably also has your car rigged with a tracking device. <-- Sauce: No Endorse

TFW you convince the local sheriff that the FBI tracking device is a car-bomb and they blow it up for you.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:47 am

Wysten wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

The Inquisition called they just said you have a couple vacation days available.

nobody suspects the spanish inquisition :lol:

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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:49 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Wysten wrote:The Inquisition called they just said you have a couple vacation days available.

nobody suspects the spanish inquisition :lol:

Not that one you heretical Xeno scum BLAM
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:56 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Fuck no.


What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

Again: so you're fine with the police forcing their way into Muslims' homes and tearing the place apart to look for evidence of terrorist activities? You're fine with the police kicking down doors of black people in West Baltimore to see if they have any shoplifted goods inside the house?
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:58 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be

Again: so you're fine with the police forcing their way into Muslims' homes and tearing the place apart to look for evidence of terrorist activities? You're fine with the police kicking down doors of black people in West Baltimore to see if they have any shoplifted goods inside the house?


I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:00 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Again: so you're fine with the police forcing their way into Muslims' homes and tearing the place apart to look for evidence of terrorist activities? You're fine with the police kicking down doors of black people in West Baltimore to see if they have any shoplifted goods inside the house?


I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st

That isn't what TJ asked.

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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:00 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Again: so you're fine with the police forcing their way into Muslims' homes and tearing the place apart to look for evidence of terrorist activities? You're fine with the police kicking down doors of black people in West Baltimore to see if they have any shoplifted goods inside the house?


I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st

If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:01 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Again: so you're fine with the police forcing their way into Muslims' homes and tearing the place apart to look for evidence of terrorist activities? You're fine with the police kicking down doors of black people in West Baltimore to see if they have any shoplifted goods inside the house?


I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st

You're probably fine because you feel exempt from these searches merely because you're already banned from owning a gun.

You won't be.

You'll get searched, too. Every time a gun-permitted person visits. Including police officer visits.

what's this? Anti-government rhetoric on your computer? Off to Gitmo with you!
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:03 am

Wysten wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st

If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.


His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:04 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Fuck no.


What are you hiding? Planning something illegal I would have over all my info on everything I am clean as can be


I'm planning on a lot of things, none of which are illegal or immoral. I simply disagree with your stupid suggestions which are nothing more than a punitive burden on the right to bear arms, with the eventual intent of eliminating the right altogether.

Stop with the laziness, and work on repealing the 2nd. Until then, stop with the stupid ideas.
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:04 am

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
I am fine with Gun owners or would be gun owners having to be100% searched with out warrant 1st

You're probably fine because you feel exempt from these searches merely because you're already banned from owning a gun.

You won't be.

You'll get searched, too. Every time a gun-permitted person visits. Including police officer visits.

what's this? Anti-government rhetoric on your computer? Off to Gitmo with you!


Lol no I would not let any gun owner in my house infact if they even step on foot in I am calling the police for armed home invasion.
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:05 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.


His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

Living on ones knees isn't living.

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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:05 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.


His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

Man Keshi I have hand it to you your trolling is excellent
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:06 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.


His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

I'm more of a fan to Bradbury's House of Usher II, and the Pedestrian.

I'll leave a light on for you.
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Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:06 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:You're probably fine because you feel exempt from these searches merely because you're already banned from owning a gun.

You won't be.

You'll get searched, too. Every time a gun-permitted person visits. Including police officer visits.

what's this? Anti-government rhetoric on your computer? Off to Gitmo with you!


Lol no I would not let any gun owner in my house infact if they even step on foot in I am calling the police for armed home invasion.

Then you would be arrested for a frivolous report.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:07 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:You're probably fine because you feel exempt from these searches merely because you're already banned from owning a gun.

You won't be.

You'll get searched, too. Every time a gun-permitted person visits. Including police officer visits.

what's this? Anti-government rhetoric on your computer? Off to Gitmo with you!


Lol no I would not let any gun owner in my house infact if they even step on foot in I am calling the police for armed home invasion.

They'll only show up after entry, and then use that as excuse to continue a never-ending series of bi-weekly searches.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:17 am

Wysten wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Lol no I would not let any gun owner in my house infact if they even step on foot in I am calling the police for armed home invasion.

Then you would be arrested for a frivolous report.


Its home invasion if you don't invite them in. So I would be correct I would just be using more tense language then this due is a CC carrier but won't leave me home but is not a dangerous threat. I want the gun owner who was rude enough to come into my house to be afraid when the police show up so they never do it again.
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Postby Wysten » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:30 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:Then you would be arrested for a frivolous report.


Its home invasion if you don't invite them in. So I would be correct I would just be using more tense language then this due is a CC carrier but won't leave me home but is not a dangerous threat. I want the gun owner who was rude enough to come into my house to be afraid when the police show up so they never do it again.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:37 am

And there's so much more where that came from!


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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:42 am

Wysten wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Its home invasion if you don't invite them in. So I would be correct I would just be using more tense language then this due is a CC carrier but won't leave me home but is not a dangerous threat. I want the gun owner who was rude enough to come into my house to be afraid when the police show up so they never do it again.

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Oh -_- armed tress passing is the most I could legally say. Invasion requires intent to harm >_> that sucks.
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Postby The Sheika » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:49 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Wysten wrote:If only we could harness the energy of Orwell's spinning body we would not need fossil fuels anymore.


His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

A statement like that is why people do not take you seriously. I mean, I lean to the left but even I have to stop and think "This has to be a joke". People on both sides of the aisle view "1984" as a warning, not an instruction manual, and definitely not a utopia.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:52 am

The Sheika wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
His novel is the type of country I want to recreate maybe make the orwells party. The great Big brother state!

A statement like that is why people do not take you seriously. I mean, I lean to the left but even I have to stop and think "This has to be a joke". People on both sides of the aisle view "1984" as a warning, not an instruction manual, and definitely not a utopia.


A country where every action and spoken word was monitored would be the safest and least crime ridden county in the world. You could still live life normally but all crime would be stoppable before it began.
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I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

I finally realised how messed up English was when I read a sign in French and could comprehend half of it despite never learning any French

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Postby The Sheika » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:56 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Sheika wrote:A statement like that is why people do not take you seriously. I mean, I lean to the left but even I have to stop and think "This has to be a joke". People on both sides of the aisle view "1984" as a warning, not an instruction manual, and definitely not a utopia.


A country where ever action and spoken word was monitored would be the safest and least crime ridden county in the world. You could still live life normally but all crime would be stoppable before it began.

That is not living. That is the exact opposite of living and a strong example of why the Second Amendment should exist. I get it. You don't like guns; I'd go so far as to say that you hate guns. That's cool. If they aren't for you, then don't get one. Meanwhile, there are better alternatives than an all out ban.
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