Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Telconi]

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

They're not.

Because making false promises is a thing the Syrian government does.

Not true...

[Republic of Keshiland]

So if a shoot out in K-grade starts (over who got the lego 1st) you will take responsibility for supporting the legalization from them having guns in school?

A ridiculous and nonsensical scenario and straw man.

Have you seen what little kids get into fist fights over? With a gun in hand having it turn into a shoot out/shooting is every likely. Not to mention teacher intimidation to get better scores.

[Enfaru]

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

Have you considered Capitalism? I mean America is probably the most capitalist country on the planet and there seems to be a link with pro-capitalism and pro mass murders. Not sure whether that's causational or not, needs to be looked into I guess.

[The New California Republic]

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form.

Keshiland, seriously, stop it with the sweeping generalizations.

Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us? The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

What a bizarre and nonsensical argument.

[Telconi]

A ridiculous and nonsensical scenario and straw man.

Have you seen what little kids get into fist fights over? With a gun in hand having it turn into a shoot out/shooting is every likely. Not to mention teacher intimidation to get better scores.

Irrelevant, I don't believe anyone here has advocated for kindergarteners to have firearms at school.

[The New California Republic]

A ridiculous and nonsensical scenario and straw man.

Have you seen what little kids get into fist fights over? With a gun in hand having it turn into a shoot out/shooting is every likely. Not to mention teacher intimidation to get better scores.

It was a straw man, whatever you have got to say in its defense is irrelevant, as you are defending a straw man.

[Telconi]

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

Have you considered Capitalism? I mean America is probably the most capitalist country on the planet and there seems to be a link with pro-capitalism and pro mass murders. Not sure whether that's causational or not, needs to be looked into I guess.

There are plenty of countries more capitalistic. And, interestingly enough, the worst mass murders in history were carried out by non-capitalists.

[Gig em Aggies]

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

Because we're not them, they are not us.

[Sovaal]

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.

Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.

First off, they’re not. Second, even if they where, it’s not because of gun control. Come back to reality, you’re terrible at world building.

[Enfaru]

Have you considered Capitalism? I mean America is probably the most capitalist country on the planet and there seems to be a link with pro-capitalism and pro mass murders. Not sure whether that's causational or not, needs to be looked into I guess.

There are plenty of countries more capitalistic. And, interestingly enough, the worst mass murders in history were carried out by non-capitalists.

A country more Capitalist than the the USA...please, enlighten me?

I don't know a country with more mass murders per year than the USA except Brazil and that's primarily criminal infighting not go into a school shoot everything up.

[The New California Republic]

Have you considered Capitalism? I mean America is probably the most capitalist country on the planet and there seems to be a link with pro-capitalism and pro mass murders. Not sure whether that's causational or not, needs to be looked into I guess.

Meh. I am not sure that there is a link between them. There may be some peer-reviewed study that could prove me wrong, but I have yet to come across it.

[Thermodolia]

Exactly. If that is all that can get thrown at me as a counterargument, then I guess that I won a long time ago.

Well the Michigan Supreme Court is about to rule on whether public schools can ban guns >_> (the other state in which I reside) Like why can't the whole country just agree that guns in public schools should be banned!

Bears and wildlife are bad news dude

[Enfaru]

@The New California Republic,

Take a look at this way. mass murders seem to increase the more capitalistic a society goes. So America is pretty much top ranked, then we have Russia (also quite capitalist nowadays). The countries that have lower levels of capitalism (and are typically regarded as socialist countries like Europe) tend to have lower rates of mass murders.

Though really it was just a point i was making that it doesn't seem to actually be guns that are the issue here, but other factors seem to play a much bigger factor.

[Telconi]

There are plenty of countries more capitalistic. And, interestingly enough, the worst mass murders in history were carried out by non-capitalists.

A country more Capitalist than the the USA...please, enlighten me?

I don't know a country with more mass murders per year than the USA except Brazil and that's primarily criminal infighting not go into a school shoot everything up.

The majority of central Africa is more capitalistic. You know. The folks often times trying to ethnically cleanse one another.

Some of the biggest mass murders in history have been orchestrated by communists,socialists,or nazis. None of which are capitalist.

[The New California Republic]

@The New California Republic,

Take a look at this way. mass murders seem to increase the more capitalistic a society goes. So America is pretty much top ranked, then we have Russia (also quite capitalist nowadays). The countries that have lower levels of capitalism (and are typically regarded as socialist countries like Europe) tend to have lower rates of mass murders.

Though really it was just a point i was making that it doesn't seem to actually be guns that are the issue here, but other factors seem to play a much bigger factor.

I am open to the fact that there may be a link, but I would need to see a lot of research to dislodge the skepticism that I have. On the face of it, at a cursory glance, there is a link, but I have learned not to equate coincidence with causality.

[Telconi]

@The New California Republic,

Take a look at this way. mass murders seem to increase the more capitalistic a society goes. So America is pretty much top ranked, then we have Russia (also quite capitalist nowadays). The countries that have lower levels of capitalism (and are typically regarded as socialist countries like Europe) tend to have lower rates of mass murders.

Though really it was just a point i was making that it doesn't seem to actually be guns that are the issue here, but other factors seem to play a much bigger factor.

I am open to the fact that there may be a link, but I would need to see a lot of research to dislodge the skepticism that I have. On the face of it, at a cursory glance, there is a link, but I have learned not to equate coincidence with causality.

Possibly a parallel link. If we look at individually orchestrated spree homicides at least.

[The Two Jerseys]

We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun

Would you vote for the cure for cancer if it also came with black folks becoming farm equipment again?

If it came with private residences being turned into army barracks, it would definitely have Keshi's vote.

[Telconi]

Would you vote for the cure for cancer if it also came with black folks becoming farm equipment again?

If it came with private residences being turned into army barracks, it would definitely have Keshi's vote.

He sure does seem to put a lot of value in making people's lives worse.

[Republic of Keshiland]

We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

[Topoliani]

We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

Nope, why should I let these random 5 people, who I didn't vote for, decide what I can do with my guns?

[Ors Might]

We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

No. We are not altering one of the fundamental rights enshrined in the constitution because you for some reason have a hate boner for people defending themselves in the most effective way possible. Fuck all of that.

[The New California Republic]

We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.

[Republic of Keshiland]

We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.

The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

[Topoliani]

No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.

The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

HOW?

[The New California Republic]

No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.

The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

Really?? Surely you cannot be that naive?