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Am I Right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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6%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:46 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Alright Keshi, fuck off with that shit.


Anyway, nothings you’ve put forth is doable or legal.


It would be doable in almost every other country (free country) on earth.


>Gun control...

>Free country...

Pick one and only one.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:46 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Alright Keshi, fuck off with that shit.


Anyway, nothings you’ve put forth is doable or legal.


It would be doable in almost every other country (free country) on earth.

What, breaking the law? I mean that’s generally frowned upon.
And in regards to gun control, specifically “assault weapon bans” people who actually know the assault weapons are bullshit dont want them.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:47 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. If that is all that can get thrown at me as a counterargument, then I guess that I won a long time ago.


Well the Michigan Supreme Court is about to rule on whether public schools can ban guns >_> (the other state in which I reside) Like why can't the whole country just agree that guns in public schools should be banned!


Because they shouldn't be?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:47 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. If that is all that can get thrown at me as a counterargument, then I guess that I won a long time ago.


Well the Michigan Supreme Court is about to rule on whether public schools can ban guns >_> (the other state in which I reside) Like why can't the whole country just agree that guns in public schools should be banned!

Yup, that really follows on from what I just said, doesn't it Keshiland?
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:47 am

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
It would be doable in almost every other country (free country) on earth.


>Gun control...

>Free country...

Pick one and only one.


The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:49 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom

I thought I already told you about those sweeping generalizations? But I will remind you again: stop it with the sweeping generalizations.
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Postby Enfaru » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:49 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Gun control...

>Free country...

Pick one and only one.


The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom


I might be half drunk but even I can tell that argument is completely absurd.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:50 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Gun control...

>Free country...

Pick one and only one.


The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom

Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:50 am

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Well the Michigan Supreme Court is about to rule on whether public schools can ban guns >_> (the other state in which I reside) Like why can't the whole country just agree that guns in public schools should be banned!


Because they shouldn't be?


You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:51 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
>Gun control...

>Free country...

Pick one and only one.


The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom


>30th most free. Cool propoganda fascist! Did Goebbels write that one for you?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:51 am

Enfaru wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom


I might be half drunk but even I can tell that argument is completely absurd.

It is the non sequitur Christmas gift that I didn't receive this morning. It is a bit late, but it is the thought that counts I suppose.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:51 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because they shouldn't be?


You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:


Yes.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:52 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because they shouldn't be?


You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:

Sigh. If they have been trained in their proper use, then why not.
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Postby Enfaru » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:53 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because they shouldn't be?


You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:


I do. However I do think they should be all adequately trained and only given guns if they can be responsible with them. I will concede that I don't think many of that age group will meet the criteria but in the UK they allow kids to enlist in the military at 16.

It's the old people I worry about.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:53 am

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The only free world country that has guns in their constitution is America we are also nearly 30th most free. So gun control=Freedom

Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.


We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:54 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.


We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun

Keshiland, your arguments are getting more and more absurd.
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Postby Enfaru » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:55 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun


I don't appreciate you tarring me with the same brush as anti-vaccers. Thanks.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:55 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because they shouldn't be?


You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:

I mean plenty of gun owners got started when they where kids, so why not? Gun safety classes are probably a good idea as well.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:55 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.


We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun


Would you vote for the cure for cancer if it also came with black folks becoming farm equipment again?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:56 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.


We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:57 am

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
You think 5-17 year olds should have guns :blink:

I mean plenty of gun owners got started when they where kids, so why not? Gun safety classes are probably a good idea as well.


So if a shoot out in K-grade starts (over who got the lego 1st) you will take responsibility for supporting the legalization from them having guns in school?
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:58 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean plenty of gun owners got started when they where kids, so why not? Gun safety classes are probably a good idea as well.


So if a shoot out in K-grade starts (over who got the lego 1st) you will take responsibility for supporting the legalization from them having guns in school?


'Tis the season for snow men, not straw men.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:59 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean plenty of gun owners got started when they where kids, so why not? Gun safety classes are probably a good idea as well.


So if a shoot out in K-grade starts (over who got the lego 1st) you will take responsibility for supporting the legalization from them having guns in school?

A ridiculous and nonsensical scenario and straw man.
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Postby Republic of Keshiland » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:59 am

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun

That’s not even close to being true Keshi. The world doesn’t suck because of gun owners, it sucked before then. Grow up.


Well then tell me why all our 1st world friend countries are so far ahead of us in every way shape and form. Also how did Syria a country in civil war join the climate accord but not us?

The only thing in our constitution that we have that they don't is guns rights.
I am pro-life, anti-gun, pro-immigration, pro UHC, pro-free college, pro universal income, anti-war, anti-death penalty, pro-financial ade, pro anything that makes children's lives better.

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:59 am

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean plenty of gun owners got started when they where kids, so why not? Gun safety classes are probably a good idea as well.


So if a shoot out in K-grade starts (over who got the lego 1st) you will take responsibility for supporting the legalization from them having guns in school?

Never said anything about guns in school, merely that many gun owners got started by kids. And I’ll take responsibility when the blame rests on me.


And when will you own up to how awful you fantasy world would be?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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