by Yagon » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:44 pm
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by Yagon » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:52 pm
Donut section wrote:Weakness is knowing you need to do something and not doing it.
Wether war is necessary is the problem.
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by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:11 pm
Giovenith wrote:No, it's common sense. The glorification of war is what's unnatural, we only do so specifically to overcome our distaste and fear of it.
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by Pan-America under the United States » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:17 pm
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by Yagon » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:19 pm
Socialist Union Of Deutschland wrote:You cannot describe war unless you were in one.
To be terrified of war is only a natural human trait. Being terrified of war is due to not knowing what will happen in the war.
by Attempted Socialism » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:20 pm
Have you considered the possibility that the glorification of war is necessary to make it possible? That humans are naturally disinclined to risking their lives, and it takes a lot of effort (Such as months of bootcamp, a culture of war-story-glorification or the threat of starvation etc.) to overcome such risks?Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Giovenith wrote:No, it's common sense. The glorification of war is what's unnatural, we only do so specifically to overcome our distaste and fear of it.
Glorification of war is natural. Virtually every culture in all of human history has admired it's honorable warriors even uncontacted people's do. War is what is unnatural. Or at the very least modern war.
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by Soyouso » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:22 pm
Yagon wrote:I've never been in a war. I've spoken with people who have been in one. I've seen footage. I've never experienced it.
I see academic discussion if it, which his understandable, as it makes sense to study it because its something that happens. I see humor applied to it, as humans apply humor to cancer, murder, rape, and anything else. I see it discussed by people who have read about it, and know dates and unit descriptions and accounts of battle.
But I am terrified of it. I think it would be scary, many would die, including children and the elderly and people who had no control over events.
I don't know what I would do in a war. I'm not a soldier, I have no training. I suppose I would flee, or if no other choice, try to do what I could. But mostly I think I would be very afraid.
Is this weakness? Is there a survival advantage or other virtue in one who is not afraid, or who is even eager for war? Are those who glorify and revel in its premise stronger? Will they function better if/when it comes?
by Insaeldor » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:22 pm
by Yagon » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:23 pm
Attempted Socialism wrote:Have you considered the possibility that the glorification of war is necessary to make it possible? That humans are naturally disinclined to risking their lives, and it takes a lot of effort (Such as months of bootcamp, a culture of war-story-glorification or the threat of starvation etc.) to overcome such risks?
As a direct response to OP, I think being afraid of war in the abstract is a sign of sanity. Being terrified may be a sane response to a clear danger of war, or danger of being drafted, but being terrified in ones daily life is an issue.
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