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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:31 pm

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Archysall wrote:Could've went pro if ya didn't join the navy


I'm not one of those beltway pansies.

You're bat-shit insane

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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:34 pm

Archysall wrote:The tech exists yes


Okay, so we agree it's not wonder technology then? Unless you're meaning that comment in a positive context.

define "infrastructure"


StarTram.

accumulation and muh work ethic in an gated off area where the rest of the world still produces for value, and yet you're using value to create post-scarcity. If there is no scarcity, what good is your money?


I'll leave the specifics of Post-Scarcity economics to the actual Economists, my goal is merely to get there. On the whole, near limitless energy would cause the greatest jobs boom in history, while the reduction of electrical, water, and food bills to pennies on the dollar would result in the greatest expansion of living standards in history; this is before you consider the impact of things like asteroid mining that would follow the reduction in launch costs.

You're saving the south by being their enemy despite wearing the mask of a gorillionaire


Explain.
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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:37 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Archysall wrote:The tech exists yes


Okay, so we agree it's not wonder technology then? Unless you're meaning that comment in a positive context.

define "infrastructure"


StarTram.

accumulation and muh work ethic in an gated off area where the rest of the world still produces for value, and yet you're using value to create post-scarcity. If there is no scarcity, what good is your money?


I'll leave the specifics of Post-Scarcity economics to the actual Economists, my goal is merely to get there. On the whole, near limitless energy would cause the greatest jobs boom in history, while the reduction of electrical, water, and food bills to pennies on the dollar would result in the greatest expansion of living standards in history.

You're saving the south by being their enemy despite wearing the mask of a gorillionaire


Explain.

Post-scarcity supersedes value. You can call it the world's greatest living standard, but if there's value, there's scarcity.
Simply having money means it is not post scarcity.
I'm not arguing against what you're doing, but I'm being a tremendous pedant because you called everyone else's answers meme answers.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:43 pm

Archysall wrote:Post-scarcity supersedes value. You can call it the world's greatest living standard, but if there's value, there's scarcity.
Simply having money means it is not post scarcity.


There are varying levels of Post-Scarcity, and I doubt methods of exchange would still go away even then. If you prefer, instead of Post-Scarcity, you may it "As close to Post-Scarcity as we can get right now".

I'm not arguing against what you're doing, but I'm being a tremendous pedant because you called everyone else's answers meme answers.


So far, we've had Death Star and all gold x (Trinidad James would be happy, I am not) as answers; my point was I'd like to see some serious ideas for their interesting value as such.
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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:46 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Archysall wrote:Post-scarcity supersedes value. You can call it the world's greatest living standard, but if there's value, there's scarcity.
Simply having money means it is not post scarcity.


There are varying levels of Post-Scarcity, and I doubt methods of exchange would still go away even then. If you prefer, instead of Post-Scarcity, you may it "As close to Post-Scarcity as we can get right now".

I'm not arguing against what you're doing, but I'm being a tremendous pedant because you called everyone else's answers meme answers.


So far, we've had Death Star and all gold x (Trinidad James would be happy, I am not) as answers; my point was I'd like to see some serious ideas for their interesting value as such.

It's like socialism, you can't have "more socialism". You either are, or you're a liberal/fascist. Either you pass up the concept of value (Since post-scarcity implies such abundance that the concept of value stops mattering) or you're not in post scarcity. So yes "As close to Post-Scarcity as we can get right now" is accurate, until we hit star-trek communism.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:48 pm

Archysall wrote:It's like socialism, you can't have "more socialism". You either are, or you're a liberal/fascist. Either you pass up the concept of value (Since post-scarcity implies such abundance that the concept of value stops mattering) or you're not in post scarcity. So yes "As close to Post-Scarcity as we can get right now" is accurate, until we hit star-trek communism.


Even that's not a valid comparison.
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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:50 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Archysall wrote:It's like socialism, you can't have "more socialism". You either are, or you're a liberal/fascist. Either you pass up the concept of value (Since post-scarcity implies such abundance that the concept of value stops mattering) or you're not in post scarcity. So yes "As close to Post-Scarcity as we can get right now" is accurate, until we hit star-trek communism.


Even that's not a valid comparison.

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Ronald D. Moore commented: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."

But if that doesn't tickle your fancy, I'll say Culture communism
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Postby Russian Federation white ethnostate » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:52 pm

Battleship for the Russian federation

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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:53 pm

Archysall wrote:Gene disagrees
Ronald D. Moore commented: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."


Gene is also dead, and it was quite firmly established in later series that forms of exchange still existed, as that article noted; even during TOS, there was mentions of such. Besides the Federation and its credits, other societies had other methods as well.
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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:55 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Archysall wrote:Gene disagrees
Ronald D. Moore commented: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."


Gene is also dead, and it was quite firmly established in later series that forms of exchange still existed, as that article noted; even during TOS, there was mentions of such. Besides the Federation and its credits, other societies had other methods as well.

Only because it could not be replicated. Also I edited my bost :ddd

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Postby Oil exporting People » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:57 pm

Archysall wrote:Only because it could not be replicated. Also I edited my bost :ddd


The same can more or less be said of Gold or Silver, for example, right now with 3D Printing.
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Postby Archysall » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:58 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Archysall wrote:Only because it could not be replicated. Also I edited my bost :ddd


The same can more or less be said of Gold or Silver, for example, right now with 3D Printing.

Can I shovel rocks into a 3d printer and turn it into a sammich?
edit: also o fug threadjack sorry
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:45 am

I'd just buy me my home country to run as a personal estate. Technically it would not be legal, but I think a promise to pay off the national debt and give every politician a one-time retirement benefit of 50 millions would work miracles. And in case that wouldn't help, suffice it to say that greasing a few palms and funding social activist groups like George Soros is already in the habit of doing would eventually get my way.

And after that, I'd declare myself king (because it's more eccentric than a boring title of president or prime minister) and rule happily ever after. Or at least until I come up with my next wildly eccentric idea to blow my money on.
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Postby Kubrath » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:55 am

I reckon I'd have a shot at the White House. I heard anyone and their dog can be President these days.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:55 am

I would buy a private island somewhere in the Mediterranean or some place nice like that where everything good about the world is a short hop away but far enough that you can't get there without deliberate effort. I would than proceed to turn it into a giant manor/castle complex for my self complete with everything required for it to be self sufficient including a private greenhouse to grow all my food and vine and a small community of people living there to provide me with staff of both the regular and adult variety. Well paid of course.

I would than proceed to use the rest (which should be like 90% of it since what I described is not that expensive on the grand scheme of things) to set one part of the island up as a quarantined isolated institute for the development of androids and AI so that I can create a slave race of Asimov style robots to eventually supplant all human labor and usher us into a new age of post scarcity.

Workers of the world unite and enslave the droids!
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:57 am

Buy a laboratory, and get inventing.

(I'm a Materials Scientist/Engineer, but there's not enough money to do research so I'm becoming a lawyer instead. If we had the money, I could go back to saving and improving lives instead).
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 am

Genetic engineering to create a master race of androgynous catboys.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:10 am

I'd found my own parallel state.

Schools, hospitals, etc.

It's not a charity. It's muscling in on the governments duties so I can secure the loyalty of the populace and declare myself emperor :p
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:12 am

Theme park. Movies. Maybe games. Go all Didney with it.

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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:19 am

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Theme park. Movies. Maybe games. Go all Didney with it.

You mean Disney
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Genetic engineering to create a master race of androgynous catboys.

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Iceland's military budget :p
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The new fandom republic wrote:Build a subway system that connects the major cities in North America.
Build a floating city
Build a city in the arctic just in case Switzerland gets in a way.
Then build a small town in East Texas for my family.

Subways are only good for short distances. Subways are absolute shit for long distances. Under the wrong circumstances, a single metropolitan area is too far for a subway, let alone Toronto to Tijuana
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:34 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Genetic engineering to create a master race of androgynous catboys.

Nyan?

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Postby Dahon » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:02 am

Australian Republic wrote:If you were an eccentric billionaire, and had millions to spend on a project which would not be guaranteed to earn you money, but you wanted to anyway for whatever reason, and the motif wasn't charity, what would you spend your money. It can't be charity. Charity is a different catagory. I am refering to the way that Elon Musk wants to put people on Mars. Me, personally, I would build large city in places (on Earth) that I think require them, particularly in snowy areas. People deserve to grow up with snow. How about you?


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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:06 am

"But as the German fools threw themselves on Hitler's sword 'for the good of the Reich', the Americans drank deeper and deeper of the Bolshevik poison, spoon-fed to them by Roosevelt and his New Dealists. And so, I asked myself: in what country was there a place for men like me - men who refused to say 'yes' to the parasites and the doubters, men who believed that work was sacred and property rights inviolate. And then one day, the happy answer came to me, my friends: there was *no* country for people like me! And *that* was the moment I decided... to build one."

In other words I would build an underwater utopia where nothing goes wrong.
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