What issues do you disagree with your ideology on?

[Dejanic]

Venezuela is just badly run and authoritarian, any glimmers of "Socialism" went away with Maduro's taking over.

That's not to say Venezuela was Socialist, but it was certainly moving more so in that direction under Chavez. I've said it before, you'd see more progress in Venezuelan politics if the opposition weren't shitty, corrupt and slightly evil, they literally give credence to Maduro's madness.

Nonsense. The opposition isn't perfect, but my god, Maduro's regime needs almost any alternative.

The opposition which supports economic takeover by the US and a dismantling of many of the positive social reforms implemented by Chavez. Maduro won't go away until Venezuela has a progressive opposition, not a crappy neo-liberal one that is shitty, corrupt and slightly evil.

[Dejanic]

I don't subscribe to any particular ideology, just my set of political beliefs. The opening question may as well read, "What issues do you disagree with yourself on?" Your ideology is nothing more than something you created to define yourself in terms of others.

Your sig even say's "centre-right economically" so you do subscribe to an ideological trend of sorts clearly. But instead of giving an example of a economic belief you have that differs from the normative "centre-right" you decided to be a hipster. Cool.

Clearly your political beliefs come from somewhere, so the thread is merely asking how some of your beliefs may differentiate from the majority of your others. You're not special or unique, I'm sure you have abilities that can be categorised somehow (especially considering you've even categorised them in your signature).

[Kenmoria]

I don't subscribe to any particular ideology, just my set of political beliefs. The opening question may as well read, "What issues do you disagree with yourself on?" Your ideology is nothing more than something you created to define yourself in terms of others.

Your sig even say's "centre-right economically" so you do subscribe to an ideological trend of sorts clearly. But instead of giving an example of a economic belief you have that differs from the normative "centre-right" you decided to be a hipster. Cool.

Clearly your political beliefs come from somewhere, so the thread is merely asking how some of your beliefs may differentiate from the majority of your others. You're not special or unique, I'm sure you have abilities that can be categorised somehow (especially considering you've even categorised them in your signature).

Kenmorian info is meant for the actual NationStates country of Kenmoria, it doesn't represent my viewpoints in many areas.

[Dejanic]

Your sig even say's "centre-right economically" so you do subscribe to an ideological trend of sorts clearly. But instead of giving an example of a economic belief you have that differs from the normative "centre-right" you decided to be a hipster. Cool.

Clearly your political beliefs come from somewhere, so the thread is merely asking how some of your beliefs may differentiate from the majority of your others. You're not special or unique, I'm sure you have abilities that can be categorised somehow (especially considering you've even categorised them in your signature).

Kenmorian info is meant for the actual NationStates country of Kenmoria, it doesn't represent my viewpoints in many areas.

Ok my mistake, but I find it very hard to believe your beliefs don't generally lean towards one area or the other. Pretty much every person slightly educated in politics is going to have some sort of coherent belief system in which they broadly believe in.

[Crylante]

I identify myself as a democratic socialist, but there are things about socialists in general that I disagree with.

Most controversially, I'm not a revolutionary. I support the achievement of socialism through democratic reform. This idea is hardly discussed, almost always brushed over as "not being possible". However, I think, given the growing anger at the status quo which can be seen through the rise of right-wing populism, that it is possible for a left-wing populist government to come to power and establish it. As for my opposition to revolution, I will merely say that I don't believe that the ends to be reached justify the means at which it is reached; the USSR committed a staggering amount of human rights abuses to pursue what it perceived as a free, equal society, and this should not be justified, and nor should revolution.

I also see many socialists acting apathetic, sometimes even opposing things such as feminism, racial equality and LGBT rights, which I think is hypocritical; one of the main goals of socialism is to ensure equality, yet I see people not willing to address other types of inequality, not just class, yet if a classless society is established, but still retains inequality, it is still far from ideal.

How is democratically instituted socialism better than revolutionary instituted socialism?

Democratically instituted socialism is better because the association of socialism with revolution, in my mind, portrays it as a violent fringe ideology, and thus this will generate a negative public perception of the ideology, which will lead to a lack of support for the ideology and thus any revolution staged will be bound to fail.

[Liberated Free Nations]

Posting partly to tag. This is a very interesting thread.

I don't actually know what to believe anymore. A piece of this, a piece of that is in my head now, so there tends to be a lot of disagreements with my main ideology's orthodoxy. The closest thing to an ideology I've got nowadays is that all politics is really just a glorification around "some humans" versus "other humans", and whoever chance makes you know best is whoever happens to be your side. The core of my beliefs is in a libertarian market system, but this is largely in response to a loss of faith in what sounded like a better social system, Marxism. So I guess what I really "believe" in is cynicism, and the hope that the world leaves me to my work.

A part of my belief set has made both parts of my past angry at me before. It arises from being borderline suicidal. What is life really worth? Why do people complain when humans die, but not when cows die? At least the vegan environmentalists are consistent, but theirs is an ethic that contradicts both freedom of trade and workers' power. The most honest of them take the sanctity of life to its logical conclusion.

I don't believe in the sanctity of life. Not my own, nor of anyone around me. It's because of who enforces the sanctity of life, and because life is misery. People really should consider re-evaluating what life means to them. Do the people have the right of life or death, or does the state?

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Happiness should be the concern of every compassionate person. Liberty, which is happiness, is the only value I hold sacred, both right-libertarianism (individual rights) and Marxism (classless, stateless society) have it as a theoretical goal, but I sometimes wonder, which one should I believe will get results?

[Dejanic]

Posting partly to tag. This is a very interesting thread.

I don't actually know what to believe anymore. A piece of this, a piece of that is in my head now, so there tends to be a lot of disagreements with my main ideology's orthodoxy. The closest thing to an ideology I've got nowadays is that all politics is really just a glorification around "some humans" versus "other humans", and whoever chance makes you know best is whoever happens to be your side. The core of my beliefs is in a libertarian market system, but this is largely in response to a loss of faith in what sounded like a better social system, Marxism. So I guess what I really "believe" in is cynicism, and the hope that the world leaves me to my work.

A part of my belief set has made both parts of my past angry at me before. It arises from being borderline suicidal. What is life really worth? Why do people complain when humans die, but not when cows die? At least the vegan environmentalists are consistent, but theirs is an ethic that contradicts both freedom of trade and workers' power. The most honest of them take the sanctity of life to its logical conclusion.

I don't believe in the sanctity of life. Not my own, nor of anyone around me. It's because of who enforces the sanctity of life, and because life is misery. People really should consider re-evaluating what life means to them. Do the people have the right of life or death, or does the state?

---

Happiness should be the concern of every compassionate person. Liberty, which is happiness, is the only value I hold sacred, both right-libertarianism (individual rights) and Marxism (classless, stateless society) have it as a theoretical goal, but I sometimes wonder, which one should I believe will get results?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism

Under Anarcho-Voluntaryism you could have separate stateless market societies and Communist societies. Sounds like something you'd be interested in.

[Liberated Free Nations]

Actually, yeah. That is interesting. Maybe people can learn to get along in this world... would make for a great social experiment.

[SD_Film Artists]

I'm pro-EU
But my first loyalty is to Britain, and thus unlike many remainers I don't feel any sense of gleeful 'I told you so' superiority when people like Jean-Claude Juncker tries to undermine Britain's Brexit hopes. I just want the best for our country, and pissing all over our own negotiators isn't the best way to gain that.

I'm pro-LGBT
A relatively small yet vocal pocket of the Trans movement has tried to co-opt and alter the Autistic movement. I've seen many good, liberal, pro-LGBT autistic activists become alienated from supposedly "autistic" groups because of false claims of transphobia or racism. In one case, a trans person said that he "hates all cis people", and when cis autistic people called him out on that they were banned, despite the group being created for cis (or trans) autistic people.

There's also the issue of 'gender affirmation'. This basically means that diagnoses are more of a confirmation process rather than actually questioning if the person is trans or not. This may work for the transgender movement, I'm not against gender affirmation per se but the fact remains that this is a transgender issue, not an autistic issue. Some trans people wish to copy & paste affirmation into the autistic field as if that's ever been how autism works.

For the record, when I mention the trans movement 'co-opting' the autistic movement I don't mean that people have to be either trans OR autistic, as I know that there are many people who are both trans and autistic. What I mean is how parts of the trans movement try to assimilate the autistic movement with little or no respect towards our heritage, social champions etc. Identity politics has an awful habit of cannibalizing its own champions.

[Dejanic]

I'm pro-EU
But my first loyalty is to Britain, and thus unlike many remainers I don't feel any sense of gleeful 'I told you so' superiority when people like Jean-Claude Juncker tries to undermine Britain's Brexit hopes. I just want the best for our country, and pissing all over our own negotiators isn't the best way to gain that.

I'm pro-LGBT
A relatively small yet vocal pocket of the Trans movement has tried to co-opt and alter the Autistic movement. I've seen many good, liberal, pro-LGBT autistic activists become alienated from supposedly "autistic" groups because of false claims of transphobia or racism. In one case, a trans person said that he "hates all cis people", and when cis autistic people called him out on that they were banned, despite the group being created for cis (or trans) autistic people.

There's also the issue of 'gender affirmation'. This basically means that diagnoses are more of a confirmation process rather than actually questioning if the person is trans or not. This may work for the transgender movement, I'm not against gender affirmation per se but the fact remains that this is a transgender issue, not an autistic issue. Some trans people wish to copy & paste affirmation into the autistic field as if that's ever been how autism works.

For the record, when I mention the trans movement 'co-opting' the autistic movement I don't mean that people have to be either trans OR autistic, as I know that there are many people who are both trans and autistic. What I mean is how parts of the trans movement try to assimilate the autistic movement with little or no respect towards our heritage, social champions etc. Identity politics has an awful habit of cannibalizing its own champions.

Yeah it goes too far sometimes. This also makes me think of certain (a tiny minority) of self proclaimed Feminists who are extremely transphobic.

[Lake Crossing]

I consider myself a conservative in the American sense of the term, focusing more on economic and foreign policy issues than social issues.

I'm fine with gay marriage and adoption (though I'm against forcing business owners to violate their religious beliefs). I'll also call a transgender person by their preferred pronouns, and I don't think abortion should be illegal. Bipartisan immigration reform isn't something I would oppose. Basically, I don't like the influence xenophobes and religious fundamentalists have on the Republican Party.

[Wallenburg]

None, since my personal ideology is more finely tuned than purely Left or Right.

[Lake Crossing]

Nonsense. The opposition isn't perfect, but my god, Maduro's regime needs almost any alternative.

The opposition which supports economic takeover by the US and a dismantling of many of the positive social reforms implemented by Chavez. Maduro won't go away until Venezuela has a progressive opposition, not a crappy neo-liberal one that is shitty, corrupt and slightly evil.

The opposition which is tired of grocery store shortages, power outages, political authoritarianism, and civil strife. Yes, that opposition. Mind you, the U.S. has a poverty rate around 12%, high median incomes, and general economic prosperity. The same cannot be said for Venezuela.

America has its problems, but the "crappy neo-liberal" order you describe would provide much better outcomes than what we've seen under Chavez and now Maduro.

[Ashlak]

I'm a center-left liberal who supports strong gun rights and opposes hate speech laws.

I favor interculturalism rather than multiculturalism.

I support social democratic cosmopolitanism rather than neoliberal internationalism.

[Cekoviu]

I identify myself as a democratic socialist, but there are things about socialists in general that I disagree with.

Most controversially, I'm not a revolutionary. I support the achievement of socialism through democratic reform. This idea is hardly discussed, almost always brushed over as "not being possible". However, I think, given the growing anger at the status quo which can be seen through the rise of right-wing populism, that it is possible for a left-wing populist government to come to power and establish it. As for my opposition to revolution, I will merely say that I don't believe that the ends to be reached justify the means at which it is reached; the USSR committed a staggering amount of human rights abuses to pursue what it perceived as a free, equal society, and this should not be justified, and nor should revolution.

I also see many socialists acting apathetic, sometimes even opposing things such as feminism, racial equality and LGBT rights, which I think is hypocritical; one of the main goals of socialism is to ensure equality, yet I see people not willing to address other types of inequality, not just class, yet if a classless society is established, but still retains inequality, it is still far from ideal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't wanting to establish socialism through democracy democratic socialism's schtick?

[Crylante]

I identify myself as a democratic socialist, but there are things about socialists in general that I disagree with.

Most controversially, I'm not a revolutionary. I support the achievement of socialism through democratic reform. This idea is hardly discussed, almost always brushed over as "not being possible". However, I think, given the growing anger at the status quo which can be seen through the rise of right-wing populism, that it is possible for a left-wing populist government to come to power and establish it. As for my opposition to revolution, I will merely say that I don't believe that the ends to be reached justify the means at which it is reached; the USSR committed a staggering amount of human rights abuses to pursue what it perceived as a free, equal society, and this should not be justified, and nor should revolution.

I also see many socialists acting apathetic, sometimes even opposing things such as feminism, racial equality and LGBT rights, which I think is hypocritical; one of the main goals of socialism is to ensure equality, yet I see people not willing to address other types of inequality, not just class, yet if a classless society is established, but still retains inequality, it is still far from ideal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't wanting to establish socialism through democracy democratic socialism's schtick?

I was talking about socialism in general, but yes, kind of.

[Cekoviu]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't wanting to establish socialism through democracy democratic socialism's schtick?

I was talking about socialism in general, but yes, kind of.

Ah, I see.

[Dejanic]

The opposition which supports economic takeover by the US and a dismantling of many of the positive social reforms implemented by Chavez. Maduro won't go away until Venezuela has a progressive opposition, not a crappy neo-liberal one that is shitty, corrupt and slightly evil.

The opposition which is tired of grocery store shortages, power outages, political authoritarianism, and civil strife. Yes, that opposition. Mind you, the U.S. has a poverty rate around 12%, high median incomes, and general economic prosperity. The same cannot be said for Venezuela.

America has its problems, but the "crappy neo-liberal" order you describe would provide much better outcomes than what we've seen under Chavez and now Maduro.

The Venezuelans crappy singular commodity based economy isn't going to change because they go from welfare capitalism to neo-liberal capitalism. Frankly you prove my point, the Venezuelan opposition is completely composed of extreme right ideologues such as yourself, even though the vast majority of Venezuelans are progressive minded. Oppose Maduros authoritarianism all you want, but he won't be defeated until a genuine progressive opposition is formed that stands up for Venezuelan national values, not US imperial interests which is exactly what the current immoral opposition stand up for.

[Benelujx]

My "ideology" could best be described as pro-life. While that takes for granted the anti-abortion stance, it comes with strong support for birth control, excellent pre- and neonatal healthcare as well as reductions in maternal death rate, and a desire for much better foster care/orphanages and more adoption. It also presupposes an opposition to the death penalty, domestic violence, gun violence, the destruction of the environment, war, euthanasia and assisted suicide, torture, and human trafficking. I support immigration and taking in refugees as part of this pro-life ideology. I support criminal justice reform and policing reform. I'm also anti-nuclear weapons and skeptical of genetic manipulation in humans. In short, American views of "pro-life" would suppose that I am a conservative on many issues, but I'm more of a liberal.

Of course, I'm a bit too socially conservative for most liberals, being anti-abortion and all. Identity politics is a fun thing to bash nowadays, but I'm reasonably for it. There is room to advocate for your own group as long as you don't go off the deep end. I'm an economic liberal (American sense), but I'm a little skeptical of universal government-run healthcare. Government-paid healthcare, perhaps. Not sure about free college or a $15 minimum wage either. We need an increase in the minimum wage and more affordability for college, but I don't know about those exact solutions. I do think we need tax increases on high earners for some better wealth disparities. I also like the idea of a balanced budget and debt reduction more than some liberals, though it's really a classic Keynesian deficits during downturns, surpluses during upswings. I tend to think of myself as somewhere between a Christian democrat and a social democrat.

[VoVoDoCo]

I'm a Libertarian that is okay with public school and roads.

[Cekoviu]

My "ideology" could best be described as pro-life. While that takes for granted the anti-abortion stance, it comes with strong support for birth control, excellent pre- and neonatal healthcare as well as reductions in maternal death rate, and a desire for much better foster care/orphanages and more adoption. It also presupposes an opposition to the death penalty, domestic violence, gun violence, the destruction of the environment, war, euthanasia and assisted suicide, torture, and human trafficking. I support immigration and taking in refugees as part of this pro-life ideology. I support criminal justice reform and policing reform. In short, American views of "pro-life" would suppose that I am a conservative on many issues, but I'm more of a liberal.

Of course, I'm a bit too socially conservative for most liberals. Identity politics is a fun thing to bash nowadays, but I'm reasonably for it. There is room to advocate for your own group as long as you don't go off the deep end. I'm an economic liberal (American sense), but I'm a little skeptical of universal government-run healthcare. Government-paid healthcare, perhaps. Not sure about free college or a $15 minimum wage either. We need an increase in the minimum wage and more affordability for college, but I don't know about those exact solutions. I also like the idea of a balanced budget and debt reduction more than some liberals, though it's really a classic Keynesian deficits during downturns, surpluses during upswings. I tend to think of myself as somewhere between a Christian democrat and a social democrat.

Yeah, I've seen some advocacy for the pro-life with no exceptions idea, though those who believe in such a thing are still unfortunately outnumbered by people who love war and the death penalty but not abortion and euthanasia (i.e. most Republican politicians). I have some personal objections to being opposed to abortion and human euthanasia based on my moral viewpoints, but in general, I'd consider a person who is consistent with pro-life views like you to be more respectable than somebody who only enforces it arbitrarily, at least with regards to morals and logic.

[Collatis]

I'm an economic liberal (American sense), but I'm a little skeptical of universal government-run healthcare. Government-paid healthcare, perhaps.

Few people actually advocate for the former. Single-payer healthcare is government-paid healthcare. The government can own and employ healthcare resources and personnel under single-payer, but it doesn't need to. The Canadian healthcare system, which is government-paid, but not government-run, is what most advocates of universal healthcare look towards as a model.

[Norightonia]

I'm a moderate conservative who doesn't think Ben Shaprio is God and in fact says some of the dumbest sh!t

[Methodological Individualism]

I was thinking about becoming a vegetarian just to add another tarian tarian tarian

If you decided you were an authoritarian instead of libertarian, you could be an authoritarian utilitarian vegetarian totalitarian. And if you're a member of the working class, you'd be a proletarian authoritarian utilitarian vegetarian totalitarian.

I'll take proletarian left-libertarian utilitarian ovo-lacto-vegetarian antiestablishmentarian semi-librarian.

I break with my ideology in that I'll eat books about the radical labor movement even if they're made of animal products, because there may be circumstances where exploiting the working class is ethically justifiable. Also, you're not the boss of me.

[Krumolia]

I'm a moderate conservative who doesn't think Ben Shaprio is God and in fact says some of the dumbest sh!t

Such as?