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Norightonia
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Postby Norightonia » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:54 pm

Comparing not being able to afford health insurance to not being able to afford nice furniture for one. I think a free market health care is the one to go. Doesn't make his comment any less retarded

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:53 am

I'm "left-wing" in the "less capitalistic" sense noted in my old high school economics textbook.

However, I also don't see social justice narratives on racial and gender issues as a suitable alternative to capitalism. Just because capitalism rewards so many of the wrong things doesn't mean that affirmative action or quotas will reward the right ones.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:54 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:I'm "left-wing" in the "less capitalistic" sense noted in my old high school economics textbook.

However, I also don't see social justice narratives on racial and gender issues as a suitable alternative to capitalism. Just because capitalism rewards so many of the wrong things doesn't mean that affirmative action or quotas will reward the right ones.

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Postby MGTOWia » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:57 pm

Strongly conservative, but prostitution should be legalized.
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Postby Aillyria » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:53 pm

MGTOWia wrote:Strongly conservative, but prostitution should be legalized.

WTF, why?
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:13 pm

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Postby Cedoria » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:14 pm

Disagree with a lot of my hard-left friends on foreign policy issues. I don't like the USSR, never have, and I don't see the need to defend the vile North Korean state just because it's under attack by those we consider Imperialist.

I'm also perfectly willing to acknowledge Capitalism's dynamism, transformative aspects. I know many Socialists probably do this if asked, but I'll freely admit it's generally a very successful model to break out of feudalist or pre-industrial structures. It's mostly after that where the problems emerge.
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Postby Appalachian Communists » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:24 pm

Aillyria wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Strongly conservative, but prostitution should be legalized.

WTF, why?

He's a MGTOW. I'll give you three guesses.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:25 pm

Cedoria wrote:Disagree with a lot of my hard-left friends on foreign policy issues. I don't like the USSR, never have, and I don't see the need to defend the vile North Korean state just because it's under attack by those we consider Imperialist.

I'm also perfectly willing to acknowledge Capitalism's dynamism, transformative aspects. I know many Socialists probably do this if asked, but I'll freely admit it's generally a very successful model to break out of feudalist or pre-industrial structures. It's mostly after that where the problems emerge.

That's right there in the manifesto, I'm not sure it's too exceptional tbh.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:27 pm

Krumolia wrote:
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Such as?

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:02 am

I always follow the general line of the party *nods*

Though the ultraleft armchair memes should be replaced with chaise lounge memes for maximum decadence
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:55 am

Liberal and rather pacifist, but supports nuclear weapons

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:08 am

I'm a member of the center-right, socially liberal party here in my country. I am, however, socially very conservative and economically slightly more to the centre in terms of opposing privatization that is a major topic here. Socially my resistance of most immigration runs contrary to the multicultural policy of my party. My other social views align with those of Christian parties, but they are not a credible choice. As such I don't have alternatives to vote for, though, since my party is the least terrible choice.
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Postby Kyrinasaj » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:10 am

My ''ideology'' Is basically syncretic so I pick issues I agree with
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Postby Lalaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:39 pm

Social democrat (in the international sense of the term).

I'm very patriotic, believe in American exceptionalism, and reject a lot of the notions that have been born out of modern social justice movements. Most fellow SocDems who I can agree with on nearly everything else depart from me on these stances.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:53 pm

It’s hard to pinpoint my ideology, really.
I’ve been classified as a Social Democrat or Democratic Socialist, but many would say I hold some far-right beliefs.
I believe in child limits for refugees and minorities except Slavs, Western Europeans, Scandinavians, Punjabis and (South) East Asians. Mandatory education in manners and paramilitary training in schools. Destruction of the Abrahamic religions, with cultured Atheism taking the seat alongside Eastern faiths (Sikhism, Shinto, Taoism) and folk beliefs (Animism, paganism, etc). Also, I’m very supportive of cloning and bioengineering, especially GMO food and manipulation of human genetics. Basically, some form of eugenics. I also support a strong monarchy, with proportional representation. Dictatorship and no democracy would be in order if I could not fulfill the above goals in a democracy.
I support socialistic economics, with most of the private economy being small or medium sized businesses like in Mittelstand. Britons First, in that the plight of native Anglo-Saxons should be fixed first in homelessness and such. Mandatory exercise every morning and afternoon in school and the workplace. State-sponsored lowkey fat shaming. Eradication of American cultural influence.
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Anyway, I’ve got a lot of mixed beliefs.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:53 pm

Aillyria wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Strongly conservative, but prostitution should be legalized.

WTF, why?

Freedom is good, yo.
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Postby Kibbutz Unions » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:55 pm

Well, I am a Neo-Marxist so in this case I'll say that this belief is generally unpopular in the left-wing in general:
I regard Zionism as a necessary historical movement of liberation.
And while I am critical of modern Israel's government, policies and the occupation, I still oppose BDS for various reasons; both practical and moral.
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Postby El Hamidah » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:48 pm

Religion and Spirituality. Most Socialists seem to be against it, having more of a scientistic bent.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:45 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Aillyria wrote:WTF, why?

Freedom is good, yo.

Well see, strong social conservatives define freedom as "having society structured in such a way so that it is maximally convenient to behave in the way which is right and fitting, however we think that is". Which means that a strong social conservative might support legal prostitution if he considers porn/masturbation to be significantly worse, and male fornication a sufficiently small problem(this position is not exactly unknown among social conservatives; it was entertained by Thomas Aquinas, for example). He might also hold an attitude that men should be significantly older than their wives in order to gain sexual experience and stability of income, and that women should be virgins at marriage.
Or he could just be inconsistent. It could just be that.
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Postby Kibbutz Unions » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:32 am

Lalaki wrote:Social democrat (in the international sense of the term).

I'm very patriotic, believe in American exceptionalism, and reject a lot of the notions that have been born out of modern social justice movements. Most fellow SocDems who I can agree with on nearly everything else depart from me on these stances.

How do you bridge the gap between the humanistic social-economic views you have on most issues and then the imperialistic and destructive actions of the country you are so patriotic about.
The US destroyed many nations around the world to enrich your 1%.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:49 am

I’m a liberal that’s pro-gun.
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Postby Aillyria » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:01 am

Appalachian Communists wrote:
Aillyria wrote:WTF, why?

He's a MGTOW. I'll give you three guesses.

MGTOW......eww.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Collatis » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:32 pm

Kibbutz Unions wrote:I regard Zionism as a necessary historical movement of liberation.
And while I am critical of modern Israel's government, policies and the occupation, I still oppose BDS for various reasons; both practical and moral.

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

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Postby Kibbutz Unions » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:35 pm

Collatis wrote:
Kibbutz Unions wrote:I regard Zionism as a necessary historical movement of liberation.
And while I am critical of modern Israel's government, policies and the occupation, I still oppose BDS for various reasons; both practical and moral.

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

In what sense?
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