Child sex slave kills captor, gets sentenced to life

[San Lumen]

She killed someone that wasn't an immediate threat, it was premeditated, ergo, according to the law she rightly should be behind bars. There's no to ways about it. If you don't want to be imprisoned, don't kill someone. It's that simple.

It doesn't matter what circumstances that lead her to kill, the fact is, she didn't have to, she could have escaped and it would have been the man behind bars, not her.

Maybe she couldn't escape?

[Rostavykhan]

It's the south so I can't say I'm surprised.

> Implying the chances of someone else killing a rapist and kidnapper in a vigilante act wouldn't be as common.
> "It's The South"

Silly comment is silly.

[Fartsniffage]

She killed someone that wasn't an immediate threat, it was premeditated, ergo, according to the law she rightly should be behind bars. There's no to ways about it. If you don't want to be imprisoned, don't kill someone. It's that simple.

It doesn't matter what circumstances that lead her to kill, the fact is, she didn't have to, she could have escaped and it would have been the man behind bars, not her.

Maybe she couldn't escape?

She was working on the streets as a prostitute. She had a pistol in her bag.

[Arlenton]

Uhhhh what the fuck???

She should be a hero for killing her capture.

[Arlenton]

It's the south so I can't say I'm surprised.

This makes it even more surprising. I'd expect this type of crap from Illinois, not Tennessee.

[Herador]

I myself, if I were on the jury would have voted to acquit the woman. I'm a firm believer that killing one's captor is justified.

I mean, you'd have to look at the facts of the exact event. If she shot him while he was asleep for instance, he is no threat at that time, and she very well could have walked out of the building and flagged down any police car. That would be murder.

If he was awake and threatening to rape her, then yeah - killing him is certainly justified.

I don't know the facts, but given the circumstances "life in prison" actually seems like an overreaction in either case. The former would deserve some kind of punishment, while the latter deserves no punishment at all because it's not even a wrong act. However, life is rather severe in either case.

Even so, I have to imagine there's some sort of provision that accounts for a person's mental state.

Not to say she's entirely innocent if the first is the case, but I have to think there's something on the books to provide her with a lesser sentence.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I have nothing constructive to say other than I feel such pity for this girls. And she'll be eligible for parole at 69.

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

“[There's] no such thing as a child prostitute or a teen prostitute,” Smith said. "I think we've had to have a cultural mind shift."

Sounds like statutory rape. While I'm sure humanity won't miss this man, it's not grossly unreasonable to convict of murder for shooting someone who wasn't using violence and wasn't preventing her leaving.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Even if she could've ran away, she was in a hopeless spot. She probably felt that if she tried she'd just find her and punish her. This is an extreme case, and I definatly think locking her away for the rest of her life isn't the solution

[Luziyca]

I myself, if I were on the jury would have voted to acquit the woman. I'm a firm believer that killing one's captor is justified.

I mean, you'd have to look at the facts of the exact event. If she shot him while he was asleep for instance, he is no threat at that time, and she very well could have walked out of the building and flagged down any police car. That would be murder.

If he was awake and threatening to rape her, then yeah - killing him is certainly justified.

I don't know the facts, but given the circumstances "life in prison" actually seems like an overreaction in either case. The former would deserve some kind of punishment, while the latter deserves no punishment at all because it's not even a wrong act. However, life is rather severe in either case.

Agreed, Gallo.

[Greed and Death]

She killed someone that wasn't an immediate threat, it was premeditated, ergo, according to the law she rightly should be behind bars. There's no to ways about it. If you don't want to be imprisoned, don't kill someone. It's that simple.

It doesn't matter what circumstances that lead her to kill, the fact is, she didn't have to, she could have escaped and it would have been the man behind bars, not her.

Maybe she couldn't escape?

As I read the account it was her Pimp that beat her and raped her. The victim just seems like a gun enthusiast John who did not realize she was scared.

[Camicon]

Maybe she couldn't escape?

As I read the account it was her Pimp that beat her and raped her. The victim just seems like a gun enthusiast John who did not realize she was scared.

Yes, the ex-military 43 year-old man couldn't possibly have known that the 16 year-old girl he was about to rape might be scared. Because that makes sense.

[Greed and Death]

As I read the account it was her Pimp that beat her and raped her. The victim just seems like a gun enthusiast John who did not realize she was scared.

Yes, the ex-military 43 year-old man couldn't possibly have known that the 16 year-old girl he was about to rape might be scared. Because that makes sense.

Just saying with the narrative of sex slave girl fighting back, killing the pimp would have made more sense then killing the John.

[Camicon]

Yes, the ex-military 43 year-old man couldn't possibly have known that the 16 year-old girl he was about to rape might be scared. Because that makes sense.

Just saying with the narrative of sex slave girl fighting back, killing the pimp would have made more sense then killing the John.

Indeed. If Cyntoia was to premeditate a murder it would make far more sense to target the person who most abused her. Kinda makes you think the prosecution was wrong to say that she premeditated killing Johnny Allen.

[Greed and Death]

Just saying with the narrative of sex slave girl fighting back, killing the pimp would have made more sense then killing the John.

Indeed. If Cyntoia was to premeditate a murder it would make far more sense to target the person who most abused her. Kinda makes you think the prosecution was wrong to say that she premeditated killing Johnny Allen.

They proved their case did they not?

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

Sounds like a punishment shooting. If she pointed the gun at him and said "I am going to the cops. Don't try to stop me." then he lunged at her and she shot him, seems unlikely she would be going to jail.

Not that I'd consider an acquittal hugely unreasonable either, but the article in the OP is seriously misrepresenting what happened.

[Camicon]

Indeed. If Cyntoia was to premeditate a murder it would make far more sense to target the person who most abused her. Kinda makes you think the prosecution was wrong to say that she premeditated killing Johnny Allen.

They proved their case did they not?

Getting a conviction doesn't mean that they were right. Fact of the matter is that Cyntoia shouldn't have been tried as an adult in the first place, and anything the prosecution "proved" is tainted by that.

[Longweather]

I've looked up some of the news surrounding this and... damn man. I don't think she should have gotten life in prison but there's some serious misrepresentation here. There's also apparently some forensic information directly counter to her story (the whole body position of the victim which prosecutors claimed indicated he was sleeping). Damn.

[New haven america]

I myself, if I were on the jury would have voted to acquit the woman. I'm a firm believer that killing one's captor is justified.

I mean, you'd have to look at the facts of the exact event.

She got kidnapped and used as a sex slave.

It seems pretty clear cut, imo...

[Galloism]

A few facts:

http://www.newsweek.com/cyntoia-brown-h ... sex-718766

Prosecutors say Brown killed Johnny Allen, 43, in order to steal from him — she took several firearms and his pants, which contained his wallet. They also pointed to her past drug use and criminal juvenile record in an attempt to show a pattern in her life.

Allen was found dead in a pool of blood in his bed. Authorities say he was face down and had his hands under his head, as though he was sleeping when he was shot in the back of the head, court documents show.

Brown told Nashville police officers Allen picked her up at a Sonic Drive-In and took her back to his home and they got into his bed. He started touching her under the covers and Brown told police she thought he was reaching for a gun, so she pulled out a .40-caliber handgun from her purse and shot him in the head, court documents show.

Initially, she denied she was a prostitute and that they'd had sex.

Authorities say Brown then took money out of Allen's wallet, took two of his guns then stolen his pickup truck and drove to a Walmart parking lot. She had someone else pick her up but was later arrested.

Brown never denied killing Allen, but claimed she did it in self-defense. She was tried as an adult.

She never took the stand during her trial, and a jury sided with prosecutors—without knowing much of her tragic backstory of prostitution, abuse and ultimately why she shot Allen.

Brown said when she was 16 she was a runaway and met a 24-year-old man known as "Cut-throat." She started living with him and they moved around to different hotels, the Associated Press reported.

He was abusive—both physically and emotionally—and forced her to prostitute herself for money. He also regularly choked, beat and raped her.

"He would explain to me that some people were born whores, and that I was one, and I was a slut, and nobody'd want me but him, and the best thing I could do was just learn to be a good whore," Brown told a judge in 2012 during an appeal hearing.

I’ll agree that life seems excessive, particularly for a 16 year old. However, if the prosecutor’s forensics is correct, shooting a sleeping man in the back of the head, then stealing his guns, his wallet, and his truck should be some kind of crime with a punishment, even if you ran away at 16 and moved in with a pimp that beats you.

By the way, “killed him while he was goddamn asleep” was a total shot in the dark, so to speak, on my part.

[Galloism]

I mean, you'd have to look at the facts of the exact event.

She got kidnapped and used as a sex slave.

It seems pretty clear cut, imo...

It doesn’t appear she was kidnapped, at least not in the traditionalist sense.

[Internationalist Bastard]

She got kidnapped and used as a sex slave.

It seems pretty clear cut, imo...

It doesn’t appear she was kidnapped, at least not in the traditionalist sense.

Oh good, she was just a normal child sex slave then

[Galloism]

It doesn’t appear she was kidnapped, at least not in the traditionalist sense.

Oh good, she was just a normal child sex slave then

Well, I’m not sure what “normal” is, but I question whether “person A beats me” is an excuse to kill person B while he is goddamn asleep.

I was merely correcting the assertion she was kidnapped. She ran away. The previous statement carried an implication not true to the facts.

[Ostroeuropa]

It doesn’t appear she was kidnapped, at least not in the traditionalist sense.

Oh good, she was just a normal child sex slave then

16 isn't a child in most places tbh.
Nor the USA, unless they're breaking international law and using what they think are child soldiers.

That the US is authoritaian and tells some of its adult citizens they aren't allowed sex is neither here nor there to whether they are children.

She was also tried as an adult.

In addition she wasn't being attacked by her pimp at the time. Past violence may have justified attacking him if he was awake and aware of her leaving, but not him sleeping.

Life is too harsh a sentence, but she should be in jail.

[Galloism]

Oh good, she was just a normal child sex slave then

16 isn't a child in most places tbh.
Nor the USA, unless they're breaking international law and using what they think are child soldiers.

That the US is authoritaian and tells some of its adult citizens they aren't allowed sex is neither here nor there to whether they are children.

Well, it’s under the age of majority in most places.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

Although this is a somewhat modern development.