FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[Asherahan]

What signalling? Internet traffic? Who's Pareto?

Vilfredo Federico Damaso Pareto was an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist, philosopher, and cat lover.

Dat last part is the most important detail.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Nice signalling but what are your revealed preferences in traffic? I will bet $20 that they are some type of Pareto distribution

What signalling? Internet traffic? Who's Pareto?

You do not actually carry out your stated preferences--even on this site 90% of your activity is within one subsection.

[Alvecia]

What signalling? Internet traffic? Who's Pareto?

You do not actually carry out your stated preferences--even on this site 90% of your activity is within one subsection.

What I do isn't particularly relevant. What I'd like to be able to do is the point.
It's about freedom of choice.

[Ifreann]

Vilfredo Federico Damaso Pareto was an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist, philosopher, and cat lover.

Oh. I like cats.

Everyone on the internet likes cats.

[United Imperial Systems]

If this passes, I am afraid that Pai will meet his end of the other side of a gun sight, if his family wont pressure him to step down first, they don't want to get harassed all the time because of it.
But if he doesn't care about his family, I am afraid he is signing his own death sentence, and what I don't want EVEN MORE is people seeing this as a reason to riot, and I mean, RIOT, not protest.

[Alvecia]

If this passes, I am afraid that Pai will meet his end of the other side of a gun sight, if his family wont pressure him to step down first, they don't want to get harassed all the time because of it.
But if he doesn't care about his family, I am afraid he is signing his own death sentence, and what I don't want EVEN MORE is people seeing this as a reason to riot, and I mean, RIOT, not protest.

That sounds oddly threatening.

[Taihei Tengoku]

You do not actually carry out your stated preferences--even on this site 90% of your activity is within one subsection.

What I do isn't particularly relevant. What I'd like to be able to do is the point.
It's about freedom of choice.

You draw the utility from holding that opinion, which you could do before Title II in 2015 and which you can after Title II in 2018. In either case you won't be inconvenienced because your actual behavior is highly non-neutral right now.

[Ifreann]

If this passes, I am afraid that Pai will meet his end of the other side of a gun sight, if his family wont pressure him to step down first, they don't want to get harassed all the time because of it.
But if he doesn't care about his family, I am afraid he is signing his own death sentence, and what I don't want EVEN MORE is people seeing this as a reason to riot, and I mean, RIOT, not protest.

No one is going to kill Ajit Pai. If he didn't have police protection before, he probably does now.

[United Imperial Systems]

If this passes, I am afraid that Pai will meet his end of the other side of a gun sight, if his family wont pressure him to step down first, they don't want to get harassed all the time because of it.
But if he doesn't care about his family, I am afraid he is signing his own death sentence, and what I don't want EVEN MORE is people seeing this as a reason to riot, and I mean, RIOT, not protest.

That sounds oddly threatening.

Does it? Well, I am not saying I want him to get shot, I say he likely will if he wont step down from his position and the bill passes.

[Alvecia]

What I do isn't particularly relevant. What I'd like to be able to do is the point.
It's about freedom of choice.

You draw the utility from holding that opinion, which you could do before Title II in 2015 and which you can after Title II in 2018. In either case you won't be inconvenienced because your actual behavior is highly non-neutral right now.

No-one is inconvenienced until they are.
I'd rather not allow for the possibility of being so.

I still really don't get where you're going with this. The loss of Net Neutrality won't affect me because I tend to visit the same sites? What if those sites are the ones slowed down cause they wouldn't cough up protection money?

[United Imperial Systems]

If this passes, I am afraid that Pai will meet his end of the other side of a gun sight, if his family wont pressure him to step down first, they don't want to get harassed all the time because of it.
But if he doesn't care about his family, I am afraid he is signing his own death sentence, and what I don't want EVEN MORE is people seeing this as a reason to riot, and I mean, RIOT, not protest.

No one is going to kill Ajit Pai. If he didn't have police protection before, he probably does now.

If some one wants to kill Pai, they can see the security.
Police protection isn't a titanium wall around you, it can be by-passed, and I mean, if you are now under the threat of being SHOT, this will be the last straw to cause you to step down.

[Ifreann]

That sounds oddly threatening.

Does it? Well, I am not saying I want him to get shot, I say he likely will if he wont step down from his position and the bill passes.

There is no bill. It's an internal FCC decision, not a new law.

[Ifreann]

No one is going to kill Ajit Pai. If he didn't have police protection before, he probably does now.

If some one wants to kill Pai, they can see the security.
Police protection isn't a titanium wall around you, it can be by-passed, and I mean, if you are now under the threat of being SHOT, this will be the last straw to cause you to step down.

Most of the federal government is under threat of being shot. None of them have resigned. Obama was being inundated with death threats before he was even elected.

[Taihei Tengoku]

You draw the utility from holding that opinion, which you could do before Title II in 2015 and which you can after Title II in 2018. In either case you won't be inconvenienced because your actual behavior is highly non-neutral right now.

No-one is inconvenienced until they are.
I'd rather not allow for the possibility of being so.

I still really don't get where you're going with this. The loss of Net Neutrality won't affect me because I tend to visit the same sites? What if those sites are the ones slowed down cause they wouldn't cough up protection money?

Clearly you will just deal with it, as

I'd rather be able to go everywhere slowly, than a few places quickly. Places, I might add, decided not by me, but someone who has a financial stake in choosing which sites I can access.

speed isn't an issue to you.

[Alvecia]

No-one is inconvenienced until they are.
I'd rather not allow for the possibility of being so.

I still really don't get where you're going with this. The loss of Net Neutrality won't affect me because I tend to visit the same sites? What if those sites are the ones slowed down cause they wouldn't cough up protection money?

Clearly you will just deal with it, as

I'd rather be able to go everywhere slowly, than a few places quickly. Places, I might add, decided not by me, but someone who has a financial stake in choosing which sites I can access.

speed isn't an issue to you.

But access is, which this loss may affect.
Did I mention the term freedom of choice? You seem to have trouble grasping this concept.

[Taihei Tengoku]

But access is, which this loss may affect.
Did I mention the term freedom of choice? You seem to have trouble grasping this concept.

You have to pay to get on the internet in the first place.

"Freedom of choice" is an opinion you hold to signal--in fact you have already chosen and have fairly firm preferences.

[Amblibahdesh]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... adaraj-pai

[Alvecia]

But access is, which this loss may affect.
Did I mention the term freedom of choice? You seem to have trouble grasping this concept.

You have to pay to get on the internet in the first place.

"Freedom of choice" is an opinion you hold to signal--in fact you have already chosen and have fairly firm preferences.

Freedom of choice is literally the backbone of a competetive market.
I have chosen preferences because they have favourable conditions to me. If those conditions change then freedom of choice allows me to find other places that provide an acceptable service.

[Ifreann]

You have to pay to get on the internet in the first place.

"Freedom of choice" is an opinion you hold to signal--in fact you have already chosen and have fairly firm preferences.

Freedom of choice is literally the backbone of a competetive market.
I have chosen preferences because they have favourable conditions to me. If those conditions change then freedom of choice allows me to find other places that provide an acceptable service.

But you don't really believe that, because signalling Pareto traffic.

[Alvecia]

Freedom of choice is literally the backbone of a competetive market.
I have chosen preferences because they have favourable conditions to me. If those conditions change then freedom of choice allows me to find other places that provide an acceptable service.

But you don't really believe that, because signalling Pareto traffic.

Also cats

[Ifreann]

But you don't really believe that, because signalling Pareto traffic.

Also cats

Exactly!

[Alvecia]

Also cats

Exactly!

I'm getting good at this.
Maybe with practice I could become an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist, philosopher, cat lover.

[Ifreann]

Exactly!

I'm getting good at this.
Maybe with practice I could become an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist, philosopher, cat lover.

No dream is too big.

[Taihei Tengoku]

You have to pay to get on the internet in the first place.

"Freedom of choice" is an opinion you hold to signal--in fact you have already chosen and have fairly firm preferences.

Freedom of choice is literally the backbone of a competetive market.
I have chosen preferences because they have favourable conditions to me. If those conditions change then freedom of choice allows me to find other places that provide an acceptable service.

And to cover the costs of such choices their providers charge a fee. Price discrimination is neither illegal nor anticompetitive!

[Alvecia]

Freedom of choice is literally the backbone of a competetive market.
I have chosen preferences because they have favourable conditions to me. If those conditions change then freedom of choice allows me to find other places that provide an acceptable service.

And to cover the costs of such choices their providers charge a fee. Price discrimination is neither illegal nor anticompetitive!

What costs do they incur by providing the same speed to every site that they wouldn't if they could discriminate?