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by The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:14 pm

by Ifreann » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Ifreann wrote:Having to pay extra to get Netflix isn't going to harm democracy.
tbf it will harm the way the internet works though and cause severe and long-lasting economic damage and stifling of innovative forms of economic commerce in exchange for enriching a few ISPs and their top brass.

by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:32 pm
Luminesa wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:tbf it will harm the way the internet works though and cause severe and long-lasting economic damage and stifling of innovative forms of economic commerce in exchange for enriching a few ISPs and their top brass.
Stop fueling Flutter’s fearmongering, or we’ll never get this thread to stop!


by Luminesa » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:46 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Camicon wrote:Which could, in fact, be good for democracy, as it will motivate some people to take a hard look at the government and how it works. You could see greater political engagement by potential voters as they come to appreciate all the different ways that the government affects their day-to-day, and look for ways to influence it.
Or we could end up with a generation of people overreacting a la Flutterlands. But probably not that. Right?
Don't surgar coat this.

by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:51 pm
Luminesa wrote:Do you want to go insane? Is that what this is? Are you intentionally trying to drive yourself insane? Because you’re going insane, and you’re the only one who seems to have not noticed yet.

by The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:56 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Luminesa wrote:Do you want to go insane? Is that what this is? Are you intentionally trying to drive yourself insane? Because you’re going insane, and you’re the only one who seems to have not noticed yet.
Flutters is caught up in the madness of the moment. He can't get out of the present. He won't escape to the happy memories of the past, and he won't hope for the future. I consider myself pretty stressed and anxious about the current state of things, but I'm not falling apart because I remember how many things America has achieved and stood for, and because I have hope for our future. I can stand on the strength of the past, or build to a new future, as most people can (and conversely, unlike those stuck looking to the past or the future, I can take pleasure in the moment) Flutters needs gratification here and now and won't be satisfied with anything else. He needs to be able to press a button and solve all his problems.

by Luminesa » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:59 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Flutters is caught up in the madness of the moment. He can't get out of the present. He won't escape to the happy memories of the past, and he won't hope for the future. I consider myself pretty stressed and anxious about the current state of things, but I'm not falling apart because I remember how many things America has achieved and stood for, and because I have hope for our future. I can stand on the strength of the past, or build to a new future, as most people can (and conversely, unlike those stuck looking to the past or the future, I can take pleasure in the moment) Flutters needs gratification here and now and won't be satisfied with anything else. He needs to be able to press a button and solve all his problems.
The only thing that keeps my sanity is the possibility of a blue wave, but the way the Congress Critters are acting it would seem like a small wave.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:33 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Thermodolia » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:44 pm

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:51 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Ifreann wrote:Having to pay extra to get Netflix isn't going to harm democracy.
tbf it will harm the way the internet works though and cause severe and long-lasting economic damage and stifling of innovative forms of economic commerce in exchange for enriching a few ISPs and their top brass.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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by United Imperial Systems » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:22 am
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:United Imperial Systems wrote:His opinion is of a majority.
Democracy is lead by a majority, like it or not.
Ajid Pai ignored a majority, so he is full of shit.
Ajit Pai hasn't ignored the fact we live in a democracry.
You're ignoring the fact that Trump won the election with a majority of electoral votes to spur a disingenuous argument instead of addressing the issue.
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Would not fuck with them/10

by The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:04 am
The Flutterlands wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Flutters is caught up in the madness of the moment. He can't get out of the present. He won't escape to the happy memories of the past, and he won't hope for the future. I consider myself pretty stressed and anxious about the current state of things, but I'm not falling apart because I remember how many things America has achieved and stood for, and because I have hope for our future. I can stand on the strength of the past, or build to a new future, as most people can (and conversely, unlike those stuck looking to the past or the future, I can take pleasure in the moment) Flutters needs gratification here and now and won't be satisfied with anything else. He needs to be able to press a button and solve all his problems.
The only thing that keeps my sanity is the possibility of a blue wave, but the way the Congress Critters are acting it would seem like a small wave.

by Amazing Pugs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:55 am
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:United Imperial Systems wrote:His opinion is of a majority.
Democracy is lead by a majority, like it or not.
Ajid Pai ignored a majority, so he is full of shit.
Ajit Pai hasn't ignored the fact we live in a democracry.
You're ignoring the fact that Trump won the election with a majority of electoral votes to spur a disingenuous argument instead of addressing the issue.

by Camicon » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:03 pm
Amazing Pugs wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ajit Pai hasn't ignored the fact we live in a democracry.
You're ignoring the fact that Trump won the election with a majority of electoral votes to spur a disingenuous argument instead of addressing the issue.
Correct me if I am wrong. The FCCC should protect the people from unfair prices and practices that big busniess such as ATT&T, Comcast, ect want to implement. But instead they are taking the money from the large companies and telling the majority of the people to piss off. Doesn't seem right to me...
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by Telconi » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:10 pm
United Imperial Systems wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ajit Pai hasn't ignored the fact we live in a democracry.
You're ignoring the fact that Trump won the election with a majority of electoral votes to spur a disingenuous argument instead of addressing the issue.
Trumps only opponents was Hillary, not exactly a good set of choices.
Even if he was elected, it doesn't mean he has free reign to do anything he wants.

by The Flutterlands » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:46 pm
Camicon wrote:Amazing Pugs wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong. The FCCC should protect the people from unfair prices and practices that big busniess such as ATT&T, Comcast, ect want to implement. But instead they are taking the money from the large companies and telling the majority of the people to piss off. Doesn't seem right to me...
The FCC is a regulatory agency, but their purpose is not consumer protection.

by Camicon » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:54 pm
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by The Flutterlands » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:08 pm

by The Flutterlands » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:14 pm

by Camicon » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:32 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Camicon wrote:They are regulating, just less than you would like.
No they are not. They actually believe there shouldn't be any rules regulating ISPs from extorting consumers. It's not about regulating the way I like it, but rather regulating the way they objectively must. No ifs, ands or buts. The internet must be regulated as free and open. It's a moral absolute for a free and democratically economic society.
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Star spangled madness, united sadness
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No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

by The Flutterlands » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:35 pm
Camicon wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:No they are not. They actually believe there shouldn't be any rules regulating ISPs from extorting consumers. It's not about regulating the way I like it, but rather regulating the way they objectively must. No ifs, ands or buts. The internet must be regulated as free and open. It's a moral absolute for a free and democratically economic society.
The FCC is reclassifying ISP's from Title II to Title I, reversing the shift from Title I to Title II that happened under the Obama administration.
Title I does not mean "no regulation whatsoever".

by Ifreann » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Camicon wrote:The FCC is reclassifying ISP's from Title II to Title I, reversing the shift from Title I to Title II that happened under the Obama administration.
Title I does not mean "no regulation whatsoever".
Actually it does because it strips away all consumer protection regulations that keeps the internet free and open. It is criminal and it is insulting to keep the states from making their own laws. This helps no one but the ISPs who wish to extort us for profit. A true picture of regulatory capture.

by Luminesa » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:58 pm
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