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Postby Topoliani » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 am

You know, you'd think that an issue like net neutrality would unite America for once, but because Trump caused this it just worsens the division

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Both groups need to calm down. Whether you're for or against net neutrality this issue affects us all and nobody's gonna win if we just sit here and scream at each other.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:11 am

Topoliani wrote:You know, you'd think that an issue like net neutrality would unite America for once, but because Trump caused this it just worsens the division

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Both groups need to calm down. Whether you're for or against net neutrality this issue affects us all and nobody's gonna win if we just sit here and scream at each other.

Of course not, but if Sandy Hook resulted in merely angry debates and no actual change, I don't feel like both sides are going to come together to fight for net neutrality.
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:12 am

Luziyca wrote:
Topoliani wrote:You know, you'd think that an issue like net neutrality would unite America for once, but because Trump caused this it just worsens the division

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Both groups need to calm down. Whether you're for or against net neutrality this issue affects us all and nobody's gonna win if we just sit here and scream at each other.

Of course not, but if Sandy Hook resulted in merely angry debates and no actual change, I don't feel like both sides are going to come together to fight for net neutrality.

Well, shit, I guess we're screwed either way.
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Postby Naval Monte » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:19 am

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Luziyca wrote:Of course not, but if Sandy Hook resulted in merely angry debates and no actual change, I don't feel like both sides are going to come together to fight for net neutrality.

Well, shit, I guess we're screwed either way.


I know that it being passed regardless is a grim possibility but i still want to try and fight against this bill even if it is pointless. So right now just try and spread this news around to any sites you guys go in so more can know about this.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:19 am

Topoliani wrote:You know, you'd think that an issue like net neutrality would unite America for once, but because Trump caused this it just worsens the division

"But moi Capitalism" But moi Internet Freedoms "But moi stupid liberals" But moi stupid alt-righters (Satirising the extremes here, not everyone)

Both groups need to calm down. Whether you're for or against net neutrality this issue affects us all and nobody's gonna win if we just sit here and scream at each other.



I agree.

But, beacuse Trump is doing it, the hardcore of Trump's Cult will still defend it tooth and nail.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:23 am

Naval Monte wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Well, shit, I guess we're screwed either way.


I know that it being passed regardless is a grim possibility but i still want to try and fight against this bill even if it is pointless. So right now just try and spread this news around to any sites you guys go in so more can know about this.

I hope it doesn't get passed, but with the Republicans more supportive of ending net neutrality and the fact that they control the government, even if half the entire population writes letters demanding they support net neutrality, it will do little.
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:25 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Topoliani wrote:You know, you'd think that an issue like net neutrality would unite America for once, but because Trump caused this it just worsens the division

"But moi Capitalism" But moi Internet Freedoms "But moi stupid liberals" But moi stupid alt-righters (Satirising the extremes here, not everyone)

Both groups need to calm down. Whether you're for or against net neutrality this issue affects us all and nobody's gonna win if we just sit here and scream at each other.



I agree.

But, beacuse Trump is doing it, the hardcore of Trump's Cult will still defend it tooth and nail.

You're not helping by strawman-ing

Unless you're talking about THOSE Trump supporters.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:27 am

Gawd, Ajit Pai is such a turd.

This is bad. Net neutrality won't save the world, but at least it will prevent ISPs from having even more power to abuse everyone.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:33 am

Ok here's the thing the FCC cannot repeal or make any law. The title is misleading as there is no net neutrality law or bill. If there was a law on net neutrality in active force then the FCC wouldn't be able to do jack shit.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:Ok here's the thing the FCC cannot repeal or make any law. The title is misleading as there is no net neutrality law or bill. If there was a law on net neutrality in active force then the FCC wouldn't be able to do jack shit.

This here.

It's not a "bill" or a "law". It was a reclassification that he's now seeking to undo.

It was a good idea (so far as that goes) to reclassify given Congress's failure to act, but Congress's failure to act is also why it's so easily undone.
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:37 am

Albrenia wrote:My thoughts? It's bad, but not quite the End of the Internet that some are claiming.

My only hope is this flips the edgy meme crowd from their focus on triggering snowflakes to fighting Trump's attempt to steal their porn and fast internet.

Holy shit the trump administration is gonna be a flame war upon a flame war then.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:37 am

my thread just got absorbed
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Postby Scootalove repbulic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:38 am

Topoliani wrote:
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I agree.

But, beacuse Trump is doing it, the hardcore of Trump's Cult will still defend it tooth and nail.

You're not helping by strawman-ing

Unless you're talking about THOSE Trump supporters.


Yes, I am talking about them.

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Postby Topoliani » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:39 am

Scootalove repbulic wrote:
Topoliani wrote:You're not helping by strawman-ing

Unless you're talking about THOSE Trump supporters.


Yes, I am talking about them.

OK, just wanted some clarification.
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Postby Scootalove repbulic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:41 am

Honeydewistania wrote:my thread just got absorbed

Yes.

USS Monitor wrote:Merged two related threads because we only need one thread about net neutrality.


Topoliani wrote:
Scootalove repbulic wrote:
Yes, I am talking about them.

OK, just wanted some clarification.


Sorry that my post was lacking in that department.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:42 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:https://www.battleforthenet.com/

The FCC just announced its plan to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. They vote December 14th. But if Congress gets enough calls, *they* can stop the FCC.

We need calls! NationStates may be subjectable to internet tax! The great thing about NS its that its free! Free! Create as many nations as you like! But without net neutrality, ISPs can tax NS or make it slow! Awful! It would kill NS! Max Barry may shut it down! Join the fight!


Yes but it's also supported by ads and by donations, so it's unlikely.

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Oh 4chan would be up at arms when they find out about this but knowing them chances are they are already aware of this. My job here is to spread this information around and to get others to do the same so more people would know about it cause for a while I only saw this on one site that I go to.


4chan? Fighting Trump?

No, those idiots helped him get into office.

They will just say "Oh! Your Triggered beacuse #MAGA!"

it may stop people from coming to NS cause of slow speed or prices.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:42 am

Naval Monte wrote:
Topoliani wrote:Well, shit, I guess we're screwed either way.


I know that it being passed regardless is a grim possibility but i still want to try and fight against this bill even if it is pointless. So right now just try and spread this news around to any sites you guys go in so more can know about this.

The FCC isn't the final authority. Congress can tell them to fuck off at any time
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Naval Monte wrote:
I know that it being passed regardless is a grim possibility but i still want to try and fight against this bill even if it is pointless. So right now just try and spread this news around to any sites you guys go in so more can know about this.

The FCC isn't the final authority. Congress can tell them to fuck off at any time

but we need to show that we need them. the congress probably dont want net neutrality, they are dominated by republicans.
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Postby Scootalove repbulic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:43 am

Imerisium wrote:Lol, fears about net neutrality are overblown, and this post is a prime example of this.

"NationStates may be subjectable to internet tax!"

I mean REALLY?? Was that even meant to be a serious concern?? NO ONE is coming after NS. The only at risk sites are basically video streaming services. NS doesn't consume enough bandwidth NOR does it have a high enough profile for anyone to care. You don't NEED to overstate the issue!!

Also, THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION.

USE A VPN.

They can't throttle your services if you use a VPN. If we all just used those simple privacy tools Net Neutrality wouldn't even be an issue.

Also, with the amount of other problems a VPN solves, you should already be using one anyways.

Concerned with your ISP tracking and selling your internet history?? Use a VPN.

Concerned with your anonymity?? Use a VPN.

Concerned with government surveillance or censorship?? VPN.

Concerned with Net Neutrality?? V. P. N.

A very simple solution and you NEVER need to worry about Net Neutrality ever again.


Why should we need a VPN when there is a law already doing this?

Why pay an extra 3 bucks?

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Postby Scootalove repbulic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:45 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yes but it's also supported by ads and by donations, so it's unlikely.



4chan? Fighting Trump?

No, those idiots helped him get into office.

They will just say "Oh! Your Triggered beacuse #MAGA!"

it may stop people from coming to NS cause of slow speed or prices.



Won't stop me, I'm Canadian.

Also, it's text and images. Even if it's throttled, it would only be what, three seconds slower?

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:45 am

Scootalove repbulic wrote:
Imerisium wrote:Lol, fears about net neutrality are overblown, and this post is a prime example of this.

"NationStates may be subjectable to internet tax!"

I mean REALLY?? Was that even meant to be a serious concern?? NO ONE is coming after NS. The only at risk sites are basically video streaming services. NS doesn't consume enough bandwidth NOR does it have a high enough profile for anyone to care. You don't NEED to overstate the issue!!

Also, THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION.

USE A VPN.

They can't throttle your services if you use a VPN. If we all just used those simple privacy tools Net Neutrality wouldn't even be an issue.

Also, with the amount of other problems a VPN solves, you should already be using one anyways.

Concerned with your ISP tracking and selling your internet history?? Use a VPN.

Concerned with your anonymity?? Use a VPN.

Concerned with government surveillance or censorship?? VPN.

Concerned with Net Neutrality?? V. P. N.

A very simple solution and you NEVER need to worry about Net Neutrality ever again.


Why should we need a VPN when there is a law already doing this?

Why pay an extra 3 bucks?

But the law is being threatened. We need to show we need the nET!
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:46 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yes but it's also supported by ads and by donations, so it's unlikely.



4chan? Fighting Trump?

No, those idiots helped him get into office.

They will just say "Oh! Your Triggered beacuse #MAGA!"

it may stop people from coming to NS cause of slow speed or prices.

You more than likely won't experience any change on text only sites. It's the video sites that you might experience some slight changes
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:48 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The FCC isn't the final authority. Congress can tell them to fuck off at any time

but we need to show that we need them. the congress probably dont want net neutrality, they are dominated by republicans.

Then elect one that does. This change isn't the end of the world and can be reversed whenever congress feels like it
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Postby Scootalove repbulic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:48 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Scootalove repbulic wrote:
Why should we need a VPN when there is a law already doing this?

Why pay an extra 3 bucks?

But the law is being threatened. We need to show we need the nET!


Yes, I know and agree.

We have this regulation in place for a reason and we should not need to pay an extra three bucks.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:49 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Scootalove repbulic wrote:
Why should we need a VPN when there is a law already doing this?

Why pay an extra 3 bucks?

But the law is being threatened. We need to show we need the nET!

There is no law. So there's not law to threaten
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