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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:23 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Luminesa wrote:1.) Your recent posts suggest otherwise.
2.) Books do seem to be part of your issue though. I have a library 20 minutes from my house. Has a good number of books, even in a small-town library. Not a problem for me, if I want to do research, though the internet is definitely more convenient. There's a difference between a "convenience" and "right", believe it or not.
3.) Step one is getting off your computer.

Convenient Internet is better and the correct way in this day and age

Is the internet more convenient, clearly, since I do not need to go anywhere to access the material. Is it the only way, no. The comment it is the correct way is nonsensical. It is no more correct then me going to my school library and reading the actual physical copy of the article.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:28 pm

Well, the big deal is that Ajit Pai ignored the great outcry of just about everyone on the internet who gives a damn about it being free and open. It has shown that we are an oligarchy due to the fact that money speaks louder than millions of voices. Hopefully the courts will put a stop to this.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:36 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Well, the big deal is that Ajit Pai ignored the great outcry of just about everyone on the internet who gives a damn about it being free and open. It has shown that we are an oligarchy due to the fact that money speaks louder than millions of voices. Hopefully the courts will put a stop to this.

You've stated this multiple times. Stop focusing on Pai and live your life, otherwise I'm now convinced you're probably also following him on Twitter and YouTube. This obsession will get you nowhere.
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Postby United Imperial Systems » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:58 am

Luminesa wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Well, the big deal is that Ajit Pai ignored the great outcry of just about everyone on the internet who gives a damn about it being free and open. It has shown that we are an oligarchy due to the fact that money speaks louder than millions of voices. Hopefully the courts will put a stop to this.

You've stated this multiple times. Stop focusing on Pai and live your life, otherwise I'm now convinced you're probably also following him on Twitter and YouTube. This obsession will get you nowhere.

The internet is a part of our life, if we start giving up on it, what's next? Guns? Other rights?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:19 am

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Luminesa wrote:You've stated this multiple times. Stop focusing on Pai and live your life, otherwise I'm now convinced you're probably also following him on Twitter and YouTube. This obsession will get you nowhere.

The internet is a part of our life, if we start giving up on it, what's next? Guns? Other rights?

Nobody's giving up, it's just Flutterlands is being hysterical.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:33 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Well, the big deal is that Ajit Pai ignored the great outcry of just about everyone on the internet who gives a damn about it being free and open. It has shown that we are an oligarchy due to the fact that money speaks louder than millions of voices. Hopefully the courts will put a stop to this.


It's a second gilded age for the US. You have monopolies and oligopolies in many sectors, worsening living standards, rising inequality, militarization of the police, no public healthcare, worsening education, private prisons and prison labor etc. The internet becoming less open and being at the mercy of Comcast and Verizon was going to happen sooner or later. The problem isn't only in the regulatory capture of the FFC but the overall capture of your government by corporations.

Even if NN comes back it won't stay in it's place for a long time. The free market dictates it.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:36 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:militarization of the police

When will this meme die?
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Postby Camicon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:15 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:

When will this meme die?

Police services across the US are being supplied with surplus military equipment. That's not a meme, that's an entirely accurate statement.

And also not the topic of this thread, so...
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Postby United Imperial Systems » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:33 am

Camicon wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:When will this meme die?

Police services across the US are being supplied with surplus military equipment. That's not a meme, that's an entirely accurate statement.

And also not the topic of this thread, so...

Is it a bad thing?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:38 am

Camicon wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:When will this meme die?

Police services across the US are being supplied with surplus military equipment. That's not a meme, that's an entirely accurate statement.

It's parroted by people who think military equipment = extra lethal, so it's a meme.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:03 am

United Imperial Systems wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You've stated this multiple times. Stop focusing on Pai and live your life, otherwise I'm now convinced you're probably also following him on Twitter and YouTube. This obsession will get you nowhere.

The internet is a part of our life, if we start giving up on it, what's next? Guns? Other rights?


How is the Internet a right?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:07 am

Telconi wrote:
United Imperial Systems wrote:The internet is a part of our life, if we start giving up on it, what's next? Guns? Other rights?


How is the Internet a right?

https://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is- ... 1783081865
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:09 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Telconi wrote:
How is the Internet a right?

https://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is- ... 1783081865

> A non-binding resolution

Right....
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:11 am

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> A non-binding resolution

Right....

Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:15 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:> A non-binding resolution

Right....

Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.


Two things.

1) Baby blues non binding resolution is worthless.
2) The U.S. isn't violating it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:16 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:> A non-binding resolution

Right....

Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.

It’s a non-binding resolution. That literally means there is no reason to accept it as a right. The internet is still not apart of the UDHR.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:16 am

Telconi wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.


Two things.

1) Baby blues non binding resolution is worthless.
2) The U.S. isn't violating it.

By selling out to big corporations known for extortion? I say they are.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:17 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Two things.

1) Baby blues non binding resolution is worthless.
2) The U.S. isn't violating it.

By selling out to big corporations known for extortion? I say they are.

You aren’t the court or the UN. So nobody cares what you think. The courts and the UN say otherwise
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:20 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Telconi wrote:
How is the Internet a right?

https://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is- ... 1783081865

>The UN's Human Rights Council's opinion on human rights matters
>The same Human Rights Council which has nations known for their systemic violations of human rights
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>The UN's Human Rights Council's opinion on human rights matters
>The same Human Rights Council which has nations known for their systemic violations of human rights
lol

Yeah that is quite unfortunate...
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:29 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>The UN's Human Rights Council's opinion on human rights matters
>The same Human Rights Council which has nations known for their systemic violations of human rights
lol

Yeah that is quite unfortunate...

The nations on the Human Rights Council don't give a rat's ass about their own resolutions, why should we?
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:12 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:> A non-binding resolution

Right....

Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.

That's not a right.

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Postby Dylar » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:13 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't matter. The internet is a human right due to freedom of communication and information it provides.

That's not a right.

But, is it a left?
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:14 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Well, the big deal is that Ajit Pai ignored the great outcry of just about everyone on the internet who gives a damn about it being free and open. It has shown that we are an oligarchy due to the fact that money speaks louder than millions of voices. Hopefully the courts will put a stop to this.

Ajit Pai is the hero who freed the internet.

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Dylar wrote:
Arlenton wrote:That's not a right.

But, is it a left?

Yes.

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