FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[The Grim Reaper]

1.Nice cut and paste but that is wrong too.
2.The content is already downloaded to those foreign servers. A french customer of netflix steams from europe. When new content is uploaded. The file uploads across the network between the servers are not time sensitive so someone else's prioritization isn't going to effect that.

1. Unlike some people... I'm actually more than capable at doing my own research. Your attempts at snark aren't gonna work on me.
2. But the company's losing it's main consumer base, which hurts that company economically, and hurts it's ability to actually service foreign countries. Come on, keep up, it's not that difficult.

2. is only relevant for companies where the fixed costs of business exceed the profit margin on overseas providers - these are, by definition, going to be the companies that service overseas markets the /least/.

Remember, other countries still have consumer protections, so they'll be able to produce homegrown competition to any such American companies that fail :> This is an America-First problem.

[New haven america]

You say your smart, so figure it out yourself.

You do know that American companies also have their main servers and HQ's within the US, right? Hence they'd be subject to practices in the US (In Netflix's case, ISP's throttling them in order to press their own streaming services), which harms their sales in their main consumer base, which will also harm their international capabilities. It can make it unprofitable to service the US, which will either: Cause the company to die, force them to move their business outside the US and maybe even stop servicing the country altogether, or limit their capabilities to service international clients.

You're putting a dystopian scenario where there is none to be quite frank.

I'm sorry if I remember all the stupid shit that we had to go through with our last GOP lead government, and don't want them getting what they want again.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I'm sorry if I remember all the stupid shit that we had to go through with our last GOP lead government, and don't want them getting away with what they want again.

It's not like Obama stopped any of it quite frank.

He reversed nothing. Most of the Bush era legislation is still there.

[The Grim Reaper]

You're putting a dystopian scenario where there is none to be quite frank.

I'm sorry if I remember all the stupid shit that we had to go through with our last GOP lead government, and don't want them getting away with what they want again.

NN repeal is not the most stupid thing that has or will happened under this one, I can guarantee you that.

NN is like affirmative action - it's a bandaid solution for a systematic problem, which in this case is ISP monopoly supported by both America's capitalist economic conditions and regulatory capture regarding federal overreach into state & local-government attempts to create a 'public option'.

[New haven america]

I'm sorry if I remember all the stupid shit that we had to go through with our last GOP lead government, and don't want them getting away with what they want again.

It's not like Obama stopped any of it quite frank.

I wasn't aware we were still in a housing and foreclosure crisis...

To future Soldi: Does this post include anything claiming that he was a revolutionary? No? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's not like Obama stopped any of it quite frank.

I wasn't aware we were still in a housing and foreclosure crisis...

> Housing and foreclosure crisis.

That means absolutely nothing. Oh sure, he recovered a country from a recession. Big fucking hoorah for Obama. He definitely showed Bush who was the boss. Yes siree.

[Hakons]

According to the scaremongers, the internet is being shut down, free speech has been repealed, and it will now cost $1.99/Google search. Pre-2015 America must have been a nightmare.

The US had Net Neutrality under title 1 before 2015. Now is the first experiment for the US not actually having Net Neutrality at all. Most Americans only have 1 or 2 choices for broadband providers (me included), will those companies (some of the most hated in America) be up to all sorts of shenanigans now? I guess we'll find out.

Wikipedia:

February 26, 2015 – FCC passes the Title II Net Neutrality Rules. “In a 3–2 party-line vote, the FCC passes open internet rules applying to both wired and wireless internet connections grounded in Title II authority.”

December 14, 2017 - The FCC votes 3 to 2 in favor of reversing Title II regulations

....

The FCC repealed roughly three year old regulations. I've been on Nation States (started with a different nation) longer than those regulations existed. I can assure you the internet as we know it is not in significant peril.

[Luna Amore]

According to the scaremongers, the internet is being shut down, free speech has been repealed, and it will now cost $1.99/Google search. Pre-2015 America must have been a nightmare.

The US had Net Neutrality under title 1 before 2015. Now is the first experiment for the US not actually having Net Neutrality at all. Most Americans only have 1 or 2 choices for broadband providers (me included), will those companies (some of the most hated in America) be up to all sorts of shenanigans now? I guess we'll find out.

The only vote I see is them reversing the 2015 ruling.

[New haven america]

I wasn't aware we were still in a housing and foreclosure crisis...

> Housing and foreclosure crisis.

That means absolutely nothing.

Actually, it totally does, considering you claimed he didn't stop any of the shit Bush pulled, even though he obviously did.

This is on you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Soldati Senza Confini]

> Housing and foreclosure crisis.

That means absolutely nothing.

Actually, it does, considering you claimed he didn't stop any of the shit Bush pulled, even though he did.

This is on you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Need I remind you Obama also enhanced the fucking NSA to go beyond the PATRIOT Act? Or that he continued the Bush era tax cuts, oh, and he even made sure to keep bombing the shit out of people in foreign countries?

Obama? A policy revolutionary? Don't make me laugh. He was perfectly happy to build up on much of the despicable shit Bush did. I'm not gonna sit here and think Obama is some kind of saint. As you so well put it, "that's on you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯".

[Grand Britannia]

According to the scaremongers, the internet is being shut down, free speech has been repealed, and it will now cost $1.99/Google search. Pre-2015 America must have been a nightmare.

Have you tried to explain the whole thing to an European?

Most of the people I see complaining about it aren't even American.

[San Lumen]

According to the scaremongers, the internet is being shut down, free speech has been repealed, and it will now cost $1.99/Google search. Pre-2015 America must have been a nightmare.

It wouldn't shock me if thats what happens in the future.

[New haven america]

Actually, it does, considering you claimed he didn't stop any of the shit Bush pulled, even though he did.

This is on you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1.Need I remind you Obama also enhanced the fucking NSA to go beyond the PATRIOT Act? Or that he continued the Bush era tax cuts, oh, 2.and he even made sure to keep bombing the shit out of people in foreign countries?

2.Obama? A policy revolutionary? Don't make me laugh. 3.He was perfectly happy to build up on much of the despicable shit Bush did. 4. I'm not gonna sit here and think Obama is some kind of saint. As you so well put it, "that's on you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. I never claimed he was perfect
2. While also ending 2 wars...
3. You're literally the only one here who's made claims like that
4. K'then, neither am I. He was better than Bush and Trump though

I fail to see how this relates to my point, you claimed he never fixed anything, I presented evidence to the contrary, and you go off on a million different tangents, while not actually addressing my point. Tbh, the past few posts were completely uncalled for and looked really childish, I think you might need to step back and calm down a bit.

[The East Marches II]

1.Need I remind you Obama also enhanced the fucking NSA to go beyond the PATRIOT Act? Or that he continued the Bush era tax cuts, oh, 2.and he even made sure to keep bombing the shit out of people in foreign countries?

2.Obama? A policy revolutionary? Don't make me laugh. 3.He was perfectly happy to build up on much of the despicable shit Bush did. 4. I'm not gonna sit here and think Obama is some kind of saint. As you so well put it, "that's on you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. I never claimed he was perfect
2. While also ending 2 wars...
3. You're literally the only one here who's made claims like that
4. K'then, neither am I. He was better than Bush and Trump though

I fail to see how this relates to my point, you claimed he never fixed anything, I presented evidence to the contrary, and you go off on a million different tangents, while not actually addressing my point. Tbh, the past few posts were completely uncalled for and looked really childish, I think you might need to step back and calm down a bit.

>Ending 2 wars

But thats wrong :^)

[Washington Resistance Army]

1. I never claimed he was perfect
2. While also ending 2 wars...
3. You're literally the only one here who's made claims like that
4. K'then, neither am I. He was better than Bush and Trump though

I fail to see how this relates to my point, you claimed he never fixed anything, I presented evidence to the contrary, and you go off on a million different tangents, while not actually addressing my point. Tbh, the past few posts were completely uncalled for and looked really childish, I think you might need to step back and calm down a bit.

>Ending 2 wars

But thats wrong :^)

Ending 2, starting 7, same difference.

[The East Marches II]

>Ending 2 wars

But thats wrong :^)

Ending 2, starting 7, same difference.

Happens to the best of us, whats a few limited humanitarian interventions between friends?

[Genivaria]

Ending 2, starting 7, same difference.

Happens to the best of us, whats a few limited humanitarian interventions between friends?

Black Hawk Down is a wonderful movie.
All Mogadishu showed is that America kicks ass with relatively few casualties.

What were we talking about again?

[The East Marches II]

Happens to the best of us, whats a few limited humanitarian interventions between friends?

Black Hawk Down is a wonderful movie.
All Mogadishu showed is that America kicks ass with relatively few casualties.

What were we talking about again?

Why New Haven is wrong.

That being said, Black Hawk Down is one of my least favorite movies from Ridley Scott. A true masterpiece has to be The Duellists. If you haven't seen it, I absolutely recommend you do. It has Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine.

[New haven america]

Happens to the best of us, whats a few limited humanitarian interventions between friends?

Black Hawk Down is a wonderful movie.
All Mogadishu showed is that America kicks ass with relatively few casualties.

What were we talking about again?

FCC being stupid.

But TEM usually goes on random and unrelated tangents, so it's best to just ignore them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

1.Need I remind you Obama also enhanced the fucking NSA to go beyond the PATRIOT Act? Or that he continued the Bush era tax cuts, oh, 2.and he even made sure to keep bombing the shit out of people in foreign countries?

2.Obama? A policy revolutionary? Don't make me laugh. 3.He was perfectly happy to build up on much of the despicable shit Bush did. 4. I'm not gonna sit here and think Obama is some kind of saint. As you so well put it, "that's on you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. I never claimed he was perfect
2. While also ending 2 wars...
3. You're literally the only one here who's made claims like that
4. K'then, neither am I. He was better than Bush and Trump though

I fail to see how this relates to my point, you claimed he never fixed anything, I presented evidence to the contrary, and you go off on a million different tangents, while not actually addressing my point. Tbh, the past few posts were completely uncalled for and looked really childish, I think you might need to step back and calm down a bit.

So were yours before I jumped in, and yet here we are.

[New haven america]

1. I never claimed he was perfect
2. While also ending 2 wars...
3. You're literally the only one here who's made claims like that
4. K'then, neither am I. He was better than Bush and Trump though

I fail to see how this relates to my point, you claimed he never fixed anything, I presented evidence to the contrary, and you go off on a million different tangents, while not actually addressing my point. Tbh, the past few posts were completely uncalled for and looked really childish, I think you might need to step back and calm down a bit.

So were yours before I jumped in, and yet here we are.

No they weren't, they were about relating history to current events. We get a GOP government, they end up doing stupid shit, example: The FCC repealing NN.

[Outer Sparta]

According to the scaremongers, the internet is being shut down, free speech has been repealed, and it will now cost $1.99/Google search. Pre-2015 America must have been a nightmare.

Well if Ajit Pai is basically the most hated man in America, then we'd have a problem. Besides, big ISPs get the power to charge ridiculous fees. Where's Sonic.net when you need them?

[Genivaria]

Black Hawk Down is a wonderful movie.
All Mogadishu showed is that America kicks ass with relatively few casualties.

What were we talking about again?

Why New Haven is wrong.

That being said, Black Hawk Down is one of my least favorite movies from Ridley Scott. A true masterpiece has to be The Duellists. If you haven't seen it, I absolutely recommend you do. It has Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine.

-TEM liking a movie about French dualists

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No they weren't, they were about relating history to current events. We get a GOP government, they end up doing stupid shit, example: The FCC repealing NN.

I see you don't understand how the internet works.

Let's put this simply

I didn't know talking down to people was part of "relating history to current events".

I must have missed that lecture back when I was going to college during my history classes eh?

That being said, I don't think you can claim my posts were childish when yours were childish, too. I mean, you can, but your own posts betray you

[New haven america]

No they weren't, they were about relating history to current events. We get a GOP government, they end up doing stupid shit, example: The FCC repealing NN.

I see you don't understand how the internet works.

Let's put this simply

1.I didn't know talking down to people was part of "relating history to current events".

I must have missed that lecture back when I was going to college during my history classes eh?

2. That being said, I don't think you can claim my posts were childish when yours were childish, too. I mean, you can, but your own posts betray you

1. And Ethel has been doing that to a lot of people in this very thread, don't dish it out if you can't take it in return.
2. That's cute, considering you just had a temper tantrum on the last page. I'm completely calm and would like to have a constructive discussion when you've calmed down, but that's your choice.