FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[The Flutterlands]

No it is fucking not. That is the way the evil corporate thugs win. We become compliant instead of fighting back against our corporate overlords and tearing them down from power by force. This package system will be devastating on the economy, millions of jobs and thousands of industries.

If you haven't noticed, corporations have tons and tons of power over most companies that control most of the things you do with your life. And the world has not collapsed around you. Maybe in your head, but you seem to not understand how American politics currently work. Then you scream in "impotent rage* when others counteract your opinion.

Again you are ignoring and downplaying everything that is wrong with handing over control of the internet, the greatest form of human interaction, to a few corporate thugs.

[Luminesa]

...Legit, it's not that terrifying to go into the university library and to use their computers...you just have to hope and pray the headphone jacks work so you can listen to music.

Exactly!

I was fortunate enough I could afford a computer. Many of my classmates could not and used the schools computers all the time.

I recently started bringing my laptop, only because I need it for classes. I haven't done it in a long time before then, since it's an HP and a little heavier than the Apple Mac (*blergh*) that most people use. Otherwise I do enjoy going to the library, using the computers, and relaxing.

[Mr Conservative]

I hope if you're so sure about how much extra it is going to cost people to use the internet you've gone out and invested in ISP stocks. For this massive boost in revenue their going to be raking in they sure aren't valued at what you'd expect. Sounds like you stand to make a killing.

[Ohioan Territory]

Donald Trump is an ignorant dolt who hates everything made by the previous administration simply because he is black and mocked him. He doesn't care if the policy is good or bad.

Again. Ajit Pai was given his job by Obama, not Trump. Obama was also into corporations and corporate power.

Sort of. He was appointed to the commission by Obama, but designated as the chairman by Trump. Mainly because Trump knew he intended to spearhead a repeal, I believe.

[The Flutterlands]

The lost of net neutrality will affect schools and libraries too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thever ... -amendment

[The Black Forrest]

No it is fucking not. That is the way the evil corporate thugs win. We become compliant instead of fighting back against our corporate overlords and tearing them down from power by force. This package system will be devastating on the economy, millions of jobs and thousands of industries.

If you haven't noticed, corporations have tons and tons of power over most companies that control most of the things you do with your life. And the world has not collapsed around you. Maybe in your head, but you seem to not understand how American politics currently work. Then you scream in "impotent rage* when others counteract your opinion.

Indeed. How many repubs have their lips plastered to the asses of the koch brothers. How many demos on Sorros?

[Luminesa]

If you haven't noticed, corporations have tons and tons of power over most companies that control most of the things you do with your life. And the world has not collapsed around you. Maybe in your head, but you seem to not understand how American politics currently work. Then you scream in "impotent rage* when others counteract your opinion.

Indeed. How many repubs have their lips plastered to the asses of the koch brothers. How many demos on Sorros?

I don't even wanna know.

[Telconi]

I hope if you're so sure about how much extra it is going to cost people to use the internet you've gone out and invested in ISP stocks. For this massive boost in revenue their going to be raking in they sure aren't valued at what you'd expect. Sounds like you stand to make a killing.

*Cackles sinisterly in ISP*

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Donald Trump is an ignorant dolt who hates everything made by the previous administration simply because he is black and mocked him. He doesn't care if the policy is good or bad.

Again. Ajit Pai was given his job by Obama, not Trump.

AKTHUALLY, it was Trump who gave him his job. Obama appointed him to the FCC, but Trump gave him his current job.

If you haven't noticed, corporations have tons and tons of power over most companies that control most of the things you do with your life. And the world has not collapsed around you. Maybe in your head, but you seem to not understand how American politics currently work. Then you scream in "impotent rage* when others counteract your opinion.

Again you are ignoring and downplaying everything that is wrong with handing over control of the internet, the greatest form of human interaction, to a few corporate thugs.

Besides, you know, actually talking face-to-face with people.

[-Ocelot-]

I hope if you're so sure about how much extra it is going to cost people to use the internet you've gone out and invested in ISP stocks. For this massive boost in revenue their going to be raking in they sure aren't valued at what you'd expect. Sounds like you stand to make a killing.

This is not how it works. The average guy will still pay about the same, but they will have a much stricter or slower internet to access. It may not be obvious (e.g: Throttling competitors) but it will not be like the internet we have right now. Meanwhile, rich people will pay much, much more to access the real internet. This is how ISPs will make the extra revenue.

Give the ISPs enough time and they'll figure out how to cripple the net. This reform is still fresh but it was implemented for a reason.

[The Flutterlands]

The above poster is correct and acruslly sees my fears. Alarmism is good in these times because it helps you prepare for the worse case scenario.

Many of you seem to think that Net Neutrality is only about paying less for the internet. However it is really about keeping the internet open without blocking, throttling and discrimination. Ok, some people have a twisted definition of NN. Without NN the internet can basically become cable with sites only available if you pay, also that it could be used to influence elections by only showing left or right leaning news and block the rest. If you think the fake news storm during 2016 was bad, imagine the fake news and propaganda outlets the internet will become with ISPs under control of everything we see and hear on the internet.

[Ifreann]

So to circle back to your earlier post, courts should punish Ajit Pai for lying in policy making, even though that is not a crime.

You want to send innocent people to prison now?

For fucking over consumers and robbing them of protections so Corporate Thugs can extort and exploit them? Yes. Because that is not innocent.

What law does it violate?

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But it's not illegal, either, not completely. This is why we have courts and laws. Would you like it if you could be prosecuted for your political beliefs or your religion or your ... I don't know, because you have a foreign-sounding name? That's what you're advocating. If Pai broke the law, he should be prosecuted. Setting policies you do not like is not against the law.

Creating policies that would do great harm to consumers and lying to their faces should be wrong though and against the law.

If you make it a crime to enact bad policies then you'll make it impossible to govern, because no matter what the policy is, there's always some people who hate it.

And no, before you say it, policies you like are not objectively good.

[The Flutterlands]

For fucking over consumers and robbing them of protections so Corporate Thugs can extort and exploit them? Yes. Because that is not innocent.

What law does it violate?

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Creating policies that would do great harm to consumers and lying to their faces should be wrong though and against the law.

If you make it a crime to enact bad policies then you'll make it impossible to govern, because no matter what the policy is, there's always some people who hate it.

And no, before you say it, policies you like are not objectively good.

Then we are fucked because our regulatory captured agencies are able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they follow the kabuki of theatrical rulemaking procedure to ram through whatever their masters want. Unless the Courts see through their bullshit of course.

[Alvecia]

What law does it violate?

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If you make it a crime to enact bad policies then you'll make it impossible to govern, because no matter what the policy is, there's always some people who hate it.

And no, before you say it, policies you like are not objectively good.

Then we are fucked because our regulatory captured agencies are able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they follow the kabuki of theatrical rulemaking procedure to ram through whatever their masters want. Unless the Courts see through their bullshit of course.

I mean, that's literally every regulatory body, ever, all the time.

Just in these particular circumstances, you're not in favour.

[Ifreann]

What law does it violate?

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If you make it a crime to enact bad policies then you'll make it impossible to govern, because no matter what the policy is, there's always some people who hate it.

And no, before you say it, policies you like are not objectively good.

Then we are fucked because our regulatory captured agencies are able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they follow the kabuki of theatrical rulemaking procedure to ram through whatever their masters want. Unless the Courts see through their bullshit of course.

Yes, as long as federal agencies remain within the bounds of the law, even if only technically, they can do whatever the President tells them to do.

What's the problem here?

[The Flutterlands]

Then we are fucked because our regulatory captured agencies are able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they follow the kabuki of theatrical rulemaking procedure to ram through whatever their masters want. Unless the Courts see through their bullshit of course.

Yes, as long as federal agencies remain within the bounds of the law, even if only technically, they can do whatever the President tells them to do.

What's the problem here?

Blatantly ignoring the will of the people in favor of souless Corporate Thugs who wish to exploit us for profit. Sends a bad example in a country meant to be ruled by the people.

[Sovaal]

Yes, as long as federal agencies remain within the bounds of the law, even if only technically, they can do whatever the President tells them to do.

What's the problem here?

Blatantly ignoring the will of the people in favor of souless Corporate Thugs who wish to exploit us for profit. Sends a bad example in a country meant to be ruled by the people.

Of the people wanted to deport or lynch all brown people would you suppor it?

[The Flutterlands]

Then we are fucked because our regulatory captured agencies are able to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they follow the kabuki of theatrical rulemaking procedure to ram through whatever their masters want. Unless the Courts see through their bullshit of course.

I mean, that's literally every regulatory body, ever, all the time.

Just in these particular circumstances, you're not in favour.

Why do you think It's just me who's not in favor? Millions of people have spoken out against this; consumers of both parties, state and local governments, tech companies, consumer advocacy groups, and both Democratic and to a certain extent Republican lawmakers have spoken out against this.

This. Is. Not. Just. About. Me.

[Ifreann]

Yes, as long as federal agencies remain within the bounds of the law, even if only technically, they can do whatever the President tells them to do.

What's the problem here?

Blatantly ignoring the will of the people in favor of souless Corporate Thugs who wish to exploit us for profit. Sends a bad example in a country meant to be ruled by the people.

It's like you never paid attention to politics before 2016.

[The Flutterlands]

Blatantly ignoring the will of the people in favor of souless Corporate Thugs who wish to exploit us for profit. Sends a bad example in a country meant to be ruled by the people.

It's like you never paid attention to politics before 2016.

That is even more of an example, but this current issue is more shameless and brazen like that of a middle finger to American consumers who wish to be protracted.

[Freezic Vast]

I mean, that's literally every regulatory body, ever, all the time.

Just in these particular circumstances, you're not in favour.

Why do you think It's just me who's not in favor? Millions of people have spoken out against this; consumers of both parties, state and local governments, tech companies, consumer advocacy groups, and both Democratic and to a certain extent Republican lawmakers have spoken out against this.

This. Is. Not. Just. About. Me.

You certainly make it seem like it's all about you though.

[Alvecia]

I mean, that's literally every regulatory body, ever, all the time.

Just in these particular circumstances, you're not in favour.

Why do you think It's just me who's not in favor? Millions of people have spoken out against this; consumers of both parties, state and local governments, tech companies, and both Democratic and to a certain extent Republican lawmakers have spoken out against this.

This. Is. Not. Just. About. Me.

And it's a damn shame they weren't opposed 2 years ago.

[Luminesa]

It's like you never paid attention to politics before 2016.

That is even more of an example, but this current issue is more shameless and brazen like that of a middle finger to American consumers who wish to be protracted.

More of an example of what? Of how you haven’t noticed that corporations getting things their way has been a thing since before you were even born?

[The Flutterlands]

That is even more of an example, but this current issue is more shameless and brazen like that of a middle finger to American consumers who wish to be protracted.

More of an example of what? Of how you haven’t noticed that corporations getting things their way has been a thing since before you were even born?

Then what can be done to change that by force?

[Freezic Vast]

More of an example of what? Of how you haven’t noticed that corporations getting things their way has been a thing since before you were even born?

Then what can be done to change that by force?

If "by force" you mean through a bloody and violent revolution to upstart a pseudo-socialist/communist regime just for your "free" internet, the answer is you fucking don't.