Red Alert: internet freedom under attack this Thanksgiving

[Greed and Death]

As the FCC's newly appointed head I wish to ensure you your freedom will be respected. Crisitism of President is still allowed you just might be throttled to allow more pro administration posters has greater enjoyment of the net.

Any questions can be seen through the pretrottled device located under your seat.

[The Flutterlands]

As the FCC's newly appointed head I wish to ensure you your freedom will be respected. Crisitism of President is still allowed you just might be throttled to allow more pro administration posters has greater enjoyment of the net.

Any questions can be seen through the pretrottled device located under your seat.

Go to hell Ajit Pai...

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

I'm not saying net neutrality is bad or unnecessary, but it sure as shit isn't the end of the world.

To use their example, if you don't like not having crystal clear Netflix, switch to a different ISP. Something like 90% of Americans have more than two options for ISPs.

It is though.

Most Americans do NOT have more than ONE option for an ISP. Source: I'm from America. I would know this.

And this is WORSE than most of you realize. This wouldn't just be like cable, where you have to pay for website packages for this. ISPs could force websites to pay bribes to have remotely decent speeds, or even bribes to allow any traffic to reach them at all. Most websites would die, especially smaller ones. Those who don't pay the bribes would suffocate and die from lack of traffic, and those who are paying the bribes would barely be making any money either because they'd be giving it all to the ISPs. It would be the death of all Internet commerce. With how much stuff is online, this would effectively cripple the economy.

[The Flutterlands]

It is though.

Most Americans do NOT have more than ONE option for an ISP. Source: I'm from America. I would know this.

And this is WORSE than most of you realize. This wouldn't just be like cable, where you have to pay for website packages for this. ISPs could force websites to pay bribes to have remotely decent speeds, or even bribes to allow any traffic to reach them at all. Most websites would die, especially smaller ones. Those who don't pay the bribes would suffocate and die from lack of traffic, and those who are paying the bribes would barely be making any money either because they'd be giving it all to the ISPs. It would be the death of all Internet commerce. With how much stuff is online, this would effectively cripple the economy.

This is why we must revolt!

[Greed and Death]

Most Americans do NOT have more than ONE option for an ISP. Source: I'm from America. I would know this.

And this is WORSE than most of you realize. This wouldn't just be like cable, where you have to pay for website packages for this. ISPs could force websites to pay bribes to have remotely decent speeds, or even bribes to allow any traffic to reach them at all. Most websites would die, especially smaller ones. Those who don't pay the bribes would suffocate and die from lack of traffic, and those who are paying the bribes would barely be making any money either because they'd be giving it all to the ISPs. It would be the death of all Internet commerce. With how much stuff is online, this would effectively cripple the economy.

This is why we must revolt!

But Trump's supporters are the ones with the guns.

[The Flutterlands]

This is why we must revolt!

But Trump's supporters are the ones with the guns.

Not against Trump. He is an idiot. It is Ajit Pai I care about ..

[The Black Forrest]

This is why we must revolt!

But Trump's supporters are the ones with the guns.

They have to sleep sometime.

[Saiwania]

Like I said, proponents of Net Neutrality's best bet is to vote in Democrats in 2018 and 2020. Net Neutrality as well as the rest of the liberal wishlist can be reinstated if there is a big enough sweep. I think a Trump impeachment could happen if Republicans lost congress. The Democratic party is run by stupid people, so even though Democrats have a very winnable platform, I have doubts as to their ability to execute. They'll probably run a candidate as lame as Hillary was, and will give Trump a 2nd term.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

Here's the thing. Flutterlands, from what you described, Ajit Pai is relying on a few things for his plan to gut Net Neutrality to work: He is relying on people not paying attention, being ignorant to what is going on around them, and not caring about Net Neutrality.

The effective counter is to inform as many people as possible, teach them about Net Neutrality in a caring manner, and inform them of what will happen if it is gone.

This wouldn't just affect America, it would affect any company that does buisiness in America as well, and potentially have even further reaching effects.

But we've stopped it before, and hopefully we can stop it again now.

[The Flutterlands]

Here's the thing. Flutterlands, from what you described, Ajit Pai is relying on a few things for his plan to gut Net Neutrality to work: He is relying on people not paying attention, being ignorant to what is going on around them, and not caring about Net Neutrality.

The effective counter is to inform as many people as possible, teach them about Net Neutrality in a caring manner, and inform them of what will happen if it is gone.

This wouldn't just affect America, it would affect any company that does buisiness in America as well, and potentially have even further reaching effects.

But we've stopped it before, and hopefully we can stop it again now.

I am trying to fucking do so that and they still don't care!

[Len Hyet]

It is though.

Most Americans do NOT have more than ONE option for an ISP. Source: I'm from America. I would know this.

And this is WORSE than most of you realize. This wouldn't just be like cable, where you have to pay for website packages for this. ISPs could force websites to pay bribes to have remotely decent speeds, or even bribes to allow any traffic to reach them at all. Most websites would die, especially smaller ones. Those who don't pay the bribes would suffocate and die from lack of traffic, and those who are paying the bribes would barely be making any money either because they'd be giving it all to the ISPs. It would be the death of all Internet commerce. With how much stuff is online, this would effectively cripple the economy.

I'm American too, and unfortunately for you I'm a well informed American. 70% of Americans have 2+ ISPs.

[The Black Forrest]

Most Americans do NOT have more than ONE option for an ISP. Source: I'm from America. I would know this.

And this is WORSE than most of you realize. This wouldn't just be like cable, where you have to pay for website packages for this. ISPs could force websites to pay bribes to have remotely decent speeds, or even bribes to allow any traffic to reach them at all. Most websites would die, especially smaller ones. Those who don't pay the bribes would suffocate and die from lack of traffic, and those who are paying the bribes would barely be making any money either because they'd be giving it all to the ISPs. It would be the death of all Internet commerce. With how much stuff is online, this would effectively cripple the economy.

I'm American too, and unfortunately for you I'm a well informed American. 70% of Americans have 2+ ISPs.

2+ What are you defining?

[Len Hyet]

I'm American too, and unfortunately for you I'm a well informed American. 70% of Americans have 2+ ISPs.

2+ What are you defining?

70% of Americans have 2 or more options for their ISP. Sorry I'm on my phone, should have been clearer.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

Here's the thing. Flutterlands, from what you described, Ajit Pai is relying on a few things for his plan to gut Net Neutrality to work: He is relying on people not paying attention, being ignorant to what is going on around them, and not caring about Net Neutrality.

The effective counter is to inform as many people as possible, teach them about Net Neutrality in a caring manner, and inform them of what will happen if it is gone.

This wouldn't just affect America, it would affect any company that does buisiness in America as well, and potentially have even further reaching effects.

But we've stopped it before, and hopefully we can stop it again now.

I am trying to fucking do so that and they still don't care!

I know, and I understand that. It isn't an easy thing to do. I'm not your enemy, Flutterlands. We're on the same side here. And I can see you are doing your best. I actually appreciate you for putting this thread up: I knew the head of the FCC was against Net Neutrality, but until today I was unaware there were actual dates. From informing me, I have gone and informed people in my personal life.

The first step, I think, would be to tell your friends, your family... people you trust, people you care about. And then they can further spread the word.

The second step, I think, would be telling people online who are very influential, who can further reach broad audiences.

[The Black Forrest]

2+ What are you defining?

70% of Americans have 2 or more options for their ISP. Sorry I'm on my phone, should have been clearer.

Ah no worries.

The problem? What do you do with both do the same thing?

[Len Hyet]

70% of Americans have 2 or more options for their ISP. Sorry I'm on my phone, should have been clearer.

Ah no worries.

The problem? What do you do with both do the same thing?

Well that'd (I believe, could be wrong - not my area of expertise) fall under monopolistic practices and be subject to Trust-busting.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

70% of Americans have 2 or more options for their ISP. Sorry I'm on my phone, should have been clearer.

Ah no worries.

The problem? What do you do with both do the same thing?

Where did you get those numbers? The majority of statics are completely fabricated. Source or I won't believe that "70%" crap. Particularly seeing as most ISPs run in a functional monopoly, where very little of their coverage areas overlap.

[The Black Forrest]

Ah no worries.

The problem? What do you do with both do the same thing?

Well that'd (I believe, could be wrong - not my area of expertise) fall under monopolistic practices and be subject to Trust-busting.

You would hope. The only "trust busting" this government will do is only when it offends Donnie. All else is "Creating jobs and growing the economy!"

[The Flutterlands]

Saying ISPs won't throttle and block if net neutrality is repealed is like saying rapists won't rape if anti-rape laws are repealed...

[Luminesa]

Saying ISPs won't throttle and block if net neutrality is repealed is like saying rapists won't rape if anti-rape laws are repealed...

Losing net neutrality and being raped are not comparable. If you say, “Yes they are,” you obviously have no idea of the actual impact of rape.

[The Flutterlands]

Saying ISPs won't throttle and block if net neutrality is repealed is like saying rapists won't rape if anti-rape laws are repealed...

Losing net neutrality and being raped are not comparable. If you say, “Yes they are,” you obviously have no idea of the actual impact of rape.

I am making a comparison between the nature of the two...

[Luminesa]

Losing net neutrality and being raped are not comparable. If you say, “Yes they are,” you obviously have no idea of the actual impact of rape.

I am making a comparison between the nature of the two...

They’re not comparable.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

Saying ISPs won't throttle and block if net neutrality is repealed is like saying rapists won't rape if anti-rape laws are repealed...

Flutterlands... we need to calmly explain this to people, or they won't begin caring about it. The world of activism is filled with angry yelling and rhetoric, and that has traditionally not worked for us in the past, especially in the modern age where most people are too exhausted and stressed to care about anything. Espeically with how politics work in the modern world: the current modus operandi for modern politics in the news is so depressing and filled with misinformation that it leaves everyone too tired to care about anything, and that isn't even counting people who are stressed from their jobs...

I understand your frustration. I truly do. That is how I feel every day. That is why I generally don't like talking about real life politics.

[Greed and Death]

Saying ISPs won't throttle and block if net neutrality is repealed is like saying rapists won't rape if anti-rape laws are repealed...

Losing net neutrality and being raped are not comparable. If you say, “Yes they are,” you obviously have no idea of the actual impact of rape.

There also was not really a problem with it either. Throttling where it occurred happened with illegal streams and torrents.

[Luminesa]

Relevant

Instead of calling for revolution any time you're dissatisfied, why don't you just follow the democratic process? What is so difficult to understand about the fact that the more you call for "revolution" for everything, the less people are going to listen and take you seriously? Keep in mind, the man you are quoting (Patrick Henry) literally got off his butt, went out of his house, and made one of the most powerful speeches we as Americans have. If you want to even begin to compare your calls for revolution to one of the speech of one of the heroes of the American Revolution, you need to first go and actually do something productive. Keep writing to the FCC. Keep spreading the news and tell people to vote for net neutrality.Don't march around throwing a fit, you're only spinning your wheels.

We can't simply vote for net neutrality! We are not the ones voting for or against this! It's those FCC fucks that are voting against our outcry to take away the internet freedoms that are rightfully ours.

I'll repeat what I have been saying all along: The point is to stop them from repealing net neutrality, not letting them do it so we may pit it back a fucking decade or so. Net Neutrality now and and forever is the end goal.

Also, about it being bad for business, I don't think they care because it would be good for their evil masters, the ISPs.

First of all, take a chill pill. Second, if it bothers you so much, stop saying, “F this” and “F him” and write to Congress. Write to your representatives. Continue to write to the FCC. Actually educate people, instead of ranting and screaming and calling everyone to arms. An informed citizen who knows how democracy works has no reason to do so.