Red Alert: internet freedom under attack this Thanksgiving

[Ifreann]

Ajit Pai just wants to please his bottom line, which obviously isn't a free and open internet.

So any better ideas than futile efforts of using comments to change his mind?

Probably something like peaceful protest and plans to make net neutrality an election issue in 2018.

[The Flutterlands]

Ajit Pai just wants to please his bottom line, which obviously isn't a free and open internet.

Same with the ISPs who are supporting this mess. Classic case of corporate greed. The people on top are so removed from the consequences of their actions that they can't see the people who are hurt when corners are cut.

Which is why I keep suggesting sweeping them aside. Their existence gives us nothing but suffering...

[Outer Sparta]

Ajit Pai just wants to please his bottom line, which obviously isn't a free and open internet.

^yup.

He's been a lawyer for Verizon. Huge fucking company.

Ugh Verizon. Obviously he would go for Verizon's bottom line there. I always suspected he had those ties, and it shouldn't surprise me.

[Senkaku]

Ajit Pai just wants to please his bottom line, which obviously isn't a free and open internet.

So any better ideas than futile efforts of using comments to change his mind?

blah blah fucking engage in the political process and do yaself some actual activism instead of lazy armchair shitposting about how mad you are, etc etc, same shit everyone tells you 24/7 in every other fucking thread you post in blah blah blah lmfao unbelievable we're still bothering trying to repeat this to you or that you still think you're going to change anyone's mind with your constant deranged calls for mass unrest and violence

[The Flutterlands]

So any better ideas than futile efforts of using comments to change his mind?

Probably something like peaceful protest and plans to make net neutrality an election issue in 2018.

What did we say about ISP lobbyists? And you think Trump will sign any thing that would restore what he allowed to be destoyed?

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

Same with the ISPs who are supporting this mess. Classic case of corporate greed. The people on top are so removed from the consequences of their actions that they can't see the people who are hurt when corners are cut.

Which is why I keep suggesting sweeping them aside. Their existence gives us nothing but suffering...

I know. But what you are suggesting would not be something easily accomplished in practice, and isn't a necessary objective to defeating the attempts to gut Net Neutrality.

It is something that would be good if it were done, but in the meantime we have to accomplish what we can.

[Ifreann]

Same with the ISPs who are supporting this mess. Classic case of corporate greed. The people on top are so removed from the consequences of their actions that they can't see the people who are hurt when corners are cut.

Which is why I keep suggesting sweeping them aside. Their existence gives us nothing but suffering...

You keep suggesting terrorism and sedition until you remember the rule against advocating criminal activity, then you go back to suggestive "at all costs" posts as if you think we can't all read between those lines.

[Len Hyet]

So any better ideas than futile efforts of using comments to change his mind?

blah blah fucking engage in the political process and do yaself some actual activism instead of lazy armchair shitposting about how mad you are, etc etc, same shit everyone tells you 24/7 in every other fucking thread you post in blah blah blah lmfao unbelievable we're still bothering trying to repeat this to you or that you still think you're going to change anyone's mind with your constant deranged calls for mass unrest and violence

I'll give your summary of the last 12 pages a 9/10. Hit all the high points but I docked you a -1 because you forgot the mod warnings.

[Ifreann]

Probably something like peaceful protest and plans to make net neutrality an election issue in 2018.

What did we say about ISP lobbyists?

Probably something similar to what you said about buying elections.

And you think Trump will sign any thing that would restore what he allowed to be destoyed?

Sure. Trump's a moron, he'll sign anything if he thinks it'll make him look good.

[The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi]

So any better ideas than futile efforts of using comments to change his mind?

blah blah fucking engage in the political process and do yaself some actual activism instead of lazy armchair shitposting about how mad you are, etc etc, same shit everyone tells you 24/7 in every other fucking thread you post in blah blah blah lmfao unbelievable we're still bothering trying to repeat this to you or that you still think you're going to change anyone's mind with your constant deranged calls for mass unrest and violence

I'm not sure if political activism will help. Least not to ensure Net Neutrality won't be repealed.

And no, that doesn't mean I condone violence of any kind.

[Senkaku]

blah blah fucking engage in the political process and do yaself some actual activism instead of lazy armchair shitposting about how mad you are, etc etc, same shit everyone tells you 24/7 in every other fucking thread you post in blah blah blah lmfao unbelievable we're still bothering trying to repeat this to you or that you still think you're going to change anyone's mind with your constant deranged calls for mass unrest and violence

I'll give your summary of the last 12 pages a 9/10. Hit all the high points but I docked you a -1 because you forgot the mod warnings.

dear NSG,

stop engaging with Flutter's same old tired horseshit on the daily!

love senka~

[Outer Sparta]

Additionally, the US has slower internet than Latvia and Romania. Getting rid of net neutrality will make our internet go further down the tubes.

[Senkaku]

blah blah fucking engage in the political process and do yaself some actual activism instead of lazy armchair shitposting about how mad you are, etc etc, same shit everyone tells you 24/7 in every other fucking thread you post in blah blah blah lmfao unbelievable we're still bothering trying to repeat this to you or that you still think you're going to change anyone's mind with your constant deranged calls for mass unrest and violence

I'm not sure of political activism will help. Least not to ensure Net Neutrality won't be repealed.

And no, that dosen't mean I condone violence of any kind.

Well, if you're not tryna kill anyone, but you don't think political activism and elections and shit will work, here's ya options: try it anyways and actually find out, or just lay down and take it.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

Additionally, the US has slower internet than Latvia and Romania. Getting rid of net neutrality will make our internet go further down the tubes.

Very true.

[The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi]

I'm not sure of political activism will help. Least not to ensure Net Neutrality won't be repealed.

And no, that dosen't mean I condone violence of any kind.

Well, if you're not tryna kill anyone, but you don't think political activism and elections and shit will work, here's ya options: try it anyways and actually find out, or just lay down and take it.

I do, it's just I don't know if that would help ensure Net Neutrality doesn't get repealed. Because so far, I'm not seeing any opposition in Congress.

That'll might help later on if Net Neutrality does get removed, but the question is what are our options right now besides complaining and protesting.

[Outer Sparta]

Additionally, the US has slower internet than Latvia and Romania. Getting rid of net neutrality will make our internet go further down the tubes.

Very true.

Considering how Latvia and Romania didn't even have sophisticated internet until like the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed and the Warsaw Pact dissolved, that's a huge accomplishment for them. We must get our act together to improve the internet in any way, shape, or form.

[Senkaku]

Well, if you're not tryna kill anyone, but you don't think political activism and elections and shit will work, here's ya options: try it anyways and actually find out, or just lay down and take it.

I do, it's just I don't know if that would help ensure Net Neutrality doesn't get repealed. Because so far, I'm not seeing any opposition in Congress.

That'll might help later on if Net Neutrality does get removed, but the question is what are our options right now besides complaining and protesting.

Get your ass working on electing people who won't pull dumb shit like this lmao

[Luminesa]

Au contraire, pointing out that revolting to restore net neutrality is a terrible idea, doomed to failure, may serve to help keep Flutterlands from trying to enact his plans to overthrow Congress, remove Trump from office, disestablish democracy, and remake the government according to his own extremist political views. I'm defending America from terrorism.

I repeat again: GO. FUCK. YOURSELF.

Where did this come from?

[The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi]

I do, it's just I don't know if that would help ensure Net Neutrality doesn't get repealed. Because so far, I'm not seeing any opposition in Congress.

That'll might help later on if Net Neutrality does get removed, but the question is what are our options right now besides complaining and protesting.

Get your ass working on electing people who won't pull dumb shit like this lmao

I have and I always will. I didn't exactly vote for Donald Trump.

I don't think it's wise to assume that this is my fault.

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

I repeat again: GO. FUCK. YOURSELF.

Where did this come from?

I have to patience or tolerance for assholes. That's where. And Ifreann had proved to be one by that point...

[Outer Sparta]

Get your ass working on electing people who won't pull dumb shit like this lmao

I have and I always will. I didn't exactly vote for Donald Trump.

I don't think it's wise to assume that this is my fault.

The thing is, will more people get the message on electing competent politicians instead of ones that care about their bottom line?

[Independant Nations and Guilds]

I have and I always will. I didn't exactly vote for Donald Trump.

I don't think it's wise to assume that this is my fault.

The thing is, will more people get the message on electing competent politicians instead of ones that care about their bottom line?

I both sincerely hope so and unfortunately don't believe they will.

[The Flutterlands]

Well, if you're not tryna kill anyone, but you don't think political activism and elections and shit will work, here's ya options: try it anyways and actually find out, or just lay down and take it.

I do, it's just I don't know if that would help ensure Net Neutrality doesn't get repealed. Because so far, I'm not seeing any opposition in Congress.

That'll might help later on if Net Neutrality does get removed, but the question is what are our options right now besides complaining and protesting.

Revolution. Maybe sedition isn't such a bad thing if the government isn't working in our best interest. Protection of Net Neutrality is as important as protecting the Constitution

[Luminesa]

Where did this come from?

I have to patience or tolerance for assholes. That's where. And Ifreann had proved to be one by that point...

Ifreann actually has a point, mainly because they have lived longer than you (most likely) and have lived through things such as *GASP* dial-up. We’re not exactly friends, but I’ll give credit where credit is due.

[Outer Sparta]

The thing is, will more people get the message on electing competent politicians instead of ones that care about their bottom line?

I both sincerely hope so and unfortunately don't believe they will.

I mean I care about electing capable politicians that don't care for their bottom line, whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent, but more and more people need to care about where they put their votes, especially for issues like these.