Charles Manson, dead, at 83.

[Risottia]

That he was a alive this long is a travesty of justice. He should have been executed for his crimes decades ago.

You could always execute his corpse.

Not as fun as trying a corpse though.

[Rusozak]

Huh, always thought he was executed. Welp, least taxes don't have to pay for his food anymore.

[Loreaver]

I think some people are downplaying Manson's influence more than they realize. He's the stereotypical cultist nutcase, but he also was responsible for quite a bit of stuff happening during the late-1960's including but not limited to: the murder of Sharon Tate and her unborn child (which in effect may have completely fucked up Roman Polanski for life), creating countless problems for and potentially ruining Dennis Wilson's life and vandalizing his home, at the very least, and of course "Helter Skelter" (although The Beatles were far more famous with it, it's a phrase that is pretty much binded to him.

I know many people outside the US don't, nor should they, care about who the guy was. He was a scumbag with a horrible childhood that was terrible but didn't have to define him, and he allowed it to. People like that do not deserve sympathy; the fact he outlived a lot of cultural figures of the time who were doing a world of good is also saddening.

[Digital Planets]

Rest in cheeki breeki, comrade Masseuse.

[Ifreann]

I think some people are downplaying Manson's influence more than they realize. He's the stereotypical cultist nutcase, but he also was responsible for quite a bit of stuff happening during the late-1960's including but not limited to: the murder of Sharon Tate and her unborn child (which in effect may have completely fucked up Roman Polanski for life), creating countless problems for and potentially ruining Dennis Wilson's life and vandalizing his home, at the very least, and of course "Helter Skelter" (although The Beatles were far more famous with it, it's a phrase that is pretty much binded to him.

Is that not exactly the influence he's famous for? Getting some people to kill some other people and being really famous for it?

[Vyzhva]

I could say I don't really mourn his death.

[Sovaal]

No tears from me.

[Purpelia]

I think some people are downplaying Manson's influence more than they realize. He's the stereotypical cultist nutcase, but he also was responsible for quite a bit of stuff happening during the late-1960's including but not limited to: the murder of Sharon Tate and her unborn child (which in effect may have completely fucked up Roman Polanski for life), creating countless problems for and potentially ruining Dennis Wilson's life and vandalizing his home, at the very least, and of course "Helter Skelter" (although The Beatles were far more famous with it, it's a phrase that is pretty much binded to him.

Is he responsible for these things though? Is there any proof that he participated in or directly ordered any of that?

[Willania Imperium]

Sad as it might be to see a human die, I can honestly feel nothing for this wicked malevolent man that led a cult of twisted properties. I'm certain he is burning somewhere in Hell.

[Farnhamia]

Sad as it might be to see a human die, I can honestly feel nothing for this wicked malevolent man that led a cult of twisted properties. I'm certain he is burning somewhere in Hell.

Assuming Hell exists. To me it's more like what WS Gilbert said when some eager person brought a recently-deceased musician, saying, "What is he doing these days? Composing, surely!" Gilbert quipped, "No. Decomposing."

You might feel bad for Manson's fairly horrendous childhood but some people rise above that kind of misery. Manson did not. All he seems to have accomplished was the corruption of others and the deaths of innocents. I am not sorry in the least.

[Willania Imperium]

Sad as it might be to see a human die, I can honestly feel nothing for this wicked malevolent man that led a cult of twisted properties. I'm certain he is burning somewhere in Hell.

Assuming Hell exists. To me it's more like what WS Gilbert said when some eager person brought a recently-deceased musician, saying, "What is he doing these days? Composing, surely!" Gilbert quipped, "No. Decomposing."

You might feel bad for Manson's fairly horrendous childhood but some people rise above that kind of misery. Manson did not. All he seems to have accomplished was the corruption of others and the deaths of innocents. I am not sorry in the least.

I agree. He had a chance to do something good in his life, yet he blew it and did this twisted crap. It would be understandable if it were blamed on his childhood and only resulted in a few quirks, but causing a cult that preaches violence and murdering innocents is something else. Wherever that SOB is, I hope he is suffering.

[Sovaal]

You could always execute his corpse.

Not as fun as trying a corpse though.

Trying animals is far more enjoyable.

[Yagon]

I'm sure he was comforted in his final hours knowing that the race war he foresaw was finally starting to happen, at least in the form of "Nazi Bob the Pizza Delivery Guy" with his garbage pail shield fighting with Antifa Hoplites in the city parks.

[The Black Forrest]

That he was a alive this long is a travesty of justice. He should have been executed for his crimes decades ago.

You could always execute his corpse.

How did that work with Cromwell?

[Albrenia]

You could always execute his corpse.

How did that work with Cromwell?

Just keep trying, eventually that corpse will die.

[The Black Forrest]

How did that work with Cromwell?

Just keep trying, eventually that corpse will die.

He has to be released so the head can be found!

[Godular]

How did that work with Cromwell?

Just keep trying, eventually that corpse will die.

Much comfort that might be to the folks working on Rasputin

[Nulla Bellum]

That he was a alive this long is a travesty of justice. He should have been executed for his crimes decades ago.

I would like to see the grand total costs to taxpayers for feeding, housing, clothing, and providing legal services and health care to this idiot for 46 years versus the costs of executing him in 1971.

[Grays Harbor]

That he was a alive this long is a travesty of justice. He should have been executed for his crimes decades ago.

Agree. he had about 40 years more than he should have had. Lots more than his victims had.

[Ethel mermania]

That he was a alive this long is a travesty of justice. He should have been executed for his crimes decades ago.

I would like to see the grand total costs to taxpayers for feeding, housing, clothing, and providing legal services and health care to this idiot for 46 years versus the costs of executing him in 1971.

Honestly with automatic appeals and fairly expensive attorneys being appointed for such appeals it would probably would not be the savings we all think it would be.

That said I don't care, executing him would have been worth the expense

[Len Hyet]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.amp.html

Charles Manson has died at 83 years of age, at a CA hospital. Wild eyed, and nuts. I can't feel anything for him. No sympathy, no pity. Just a simple eh. There goes the closing chapter of the putrid vestiges that he was, part of an era.

Every time I see him, I can't help but think of Sharon Tate's murder. And what her unborn fetus might have been. I think her death was a true tragedy because it was just senseless. But of course, many murders are just that, senseless. And now, Manson is gone.

What are your thoughts on Manson, NSG?

Na na na na

Na na na na

Hey hey hey

Good-bye!

Sayonara, bon voyage, and don't let the cosmic door hit you in the ass on the way out Manson.

[Victorious Decepticons]

He lasted a long time. Seems prison, and becoming more nuts while in it, didn't bother him all that much.
Meh. Too distant for me to hate him, yet too bad and unexciting of a guy for me to sympathize with him or stick him in a story.

[Nulla Bellum]

I would like to see the grand total costs to taxpayers for feeding, housing, clothing, and providing legal services and health care to this idiot for 46 years versus the costs of executing him in 1971.

Honestly with automatic appeals and fairly expensive attorneys being appointed for such appeals it would probably would not be the savings we all think it would be.

That said I don't care, executing him would have been worth the expense

I think it would have been saved the taxpayers a whole lot of money immediately and long term had his death sentence been carried out in 1972.

[Greed and Death]

They should have freed him years ago.

[Purpelia]

Asking for the 3rd time. Is there any actual proof that he ordered anything as opposed to just being a crazy guy whose crazy followers decided to do something crazy and he got blamed for technically being the head crazy?