It's Okay To Be White campaign

[Petrasylvania]

I agree positive campaigning on those issues is important, and i'd prefer to see it, and have it work.
However, those campaigns are often opposed by the left for noting disadvantages males and whites face. That is why campaigns like this are aimed at "The Left."
(Said as a syndicalist.)

Gandhism is based on a similar concept.
Provoking the enemy into revealing their barbarism to alienate moderate support.
Is Gandhism "Negative"?

Gandhi? You just invoked motherfucking Gandhi...

That is some premium high octane delusion right there. Distill that shit and sell it to the kids like a villain in a hacky superhero story.

I thought Gandhiism is nuking your enemies into submission or oblivion.

[Imperializt Russia]

The reaction to the campaign is largely going to be along the lines of "the underlying message is pro-white nationalism"

And those who react that way are idiots, plain and simple.

They're calling out pro-white nationalist dogwhistling.

Absolutely no-one disagrees with the basic, contextless statement "it's okay to be white". It's meaningless, empty, and just bizarre. No-one, probably not even literal black supremacists, have said "it is not okay to be white". "White people are all dicks", of course, isn't quite the same epithet.

The only people who have a reason to try and spread a statement such as "it's okay to be white" are white nationalists, who are sowing a narrative.
As they say, it is working.

[Washington Resistance Army]

And those who react that way are idiots, plain and simple.

They're calling out pro-white nationalist dogwhistling.

Absolutely no-one disagrees with the basic, contextless statement "it's okay to be white". It's meaningless, empty, and just bizarre. No-one, probably not even literal black supremacists, have said "it is not okay to be white". "White people are all dicks", of course, isn't quite the same epithet.

The only people who have a reason to try and spread a statement such as "it's okay to be white" are white nationalists, who are sowing a narrative.
As they say, it is working.

Sadly you can go online and find more than a few people saying it's not okay to be white. In that regard the campaign is working great.

[Aillyria]

MAW! This is it. I can't tell you how long I've just argued with pseudo-intellectuals over the definition of RACE and ETHNICITY. Words have to be defined and understood for a conservation to go on... But democracy no longer had objective definitions and it can no longer agree upon definitions for whatever discussion.

That's a good point, but I would argue that democratic society began its decline when we could no longer agree that grown men obsessing over a cartoon made for small girls was really fucking weird.

I don’t really consider that to be particularly problematic, it's certainly on a lower tier of importance than say....pro-"choice", or "intersectionality". Adult MLP fans are odd, a bit annoying perhaps, but indicative of decline, I wouldn't say so.

[Fartsniffage]

The whole thing is a troll by one of the chans. It was being talked about on imgur over a week ago.

[Imperializt Russia]

The whole thing is a troll by one of the chans. It was being talked about on imgur over a week ago.

Well, yes, it's dogwhistling.

Because it came "from the chans" doesn't make it not serious.

[Vassenor]

From the original post:

"We are giving the left all the rope they want and they are racing to hang themselves. The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer. It is working."

A campaign like "Black lives matter" is a positive campaign. However misguided you may think the principle is, the intention is to improve the lot of a portion of society.

This campaign is a negative campaign. It's stated goal is to make a fool of the left. So this campaign sucks.

It's easy to make a positive campaign. For example, in the UK, working class white males fall behind their peers in education. This is a genuine issue that impacts the future prospects of these children. Positive action needs to be taken to address this issue. That's something worth campaigning about, not some BS designed to make the left look stupid.

I agree positive campaigning on those issues is important, and i'd prefer to see it, and have it work.
However, those campaigns are often opposed by the left for noting disadvantages males and whites face. That is why campaigns like this are aimed at "The Left."
(Said as a syndicalist.)

Gandhism is based on a similar concept.
Provoking the enemy into revealing their barbarism to alienate moderate support.
Is Gandhism "Negative"?

Aside from the fact there's no actual evidence he said "first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win".

[Kermit T Frog]

It ain't easy being green.

[Omakhandia]

They have a more systematic view of racism where it is prejudice + power.

Which is complete and utter nonsense.

By that logic it's not racist for a white person to hate black people if they live pretty much anywhere in sub-Saharan Africa.

It's just stupid worldplay that's designed to dodge the question of whether or not certain people are truly the knights in shining socially just armour that they claim to be.

That's partly what I was getting at in my previous comment. What about white kids refusing to interact with black kids in high school? They're peers; there's no institutional power there whatsoever. Still racist.

[Fartsniffage]

The whole thing is a troll by one of the chans. It was being talked about on imgur over a week ago.

Well, yes, it's dogwhistling.

Because it came "from the chans" doesn't make it not serious.

Of course it does. You just ignore it and it goes away.

[Cannot think of a name]

And those who react that way are idiots, plain and simple.

They're calling out pro-white nationalist dogwhistling.

Absolutely no-one disagrees with the basic, contextless statement "it's okay to be white". It's meaningless, empty, and just bizarre. No-one, probably not even literal black supremacists, have said "it is not okay to be white". "White people are all dicks", of course, isn't quite the same epithet.

The only people who have a reason to try and spread a statement such as "it's okay to be white" are white nationalists, who are sowing a narrative.
As they say, it is working.

Is it though? The goal as far as I understand it is to get “liberals” to overreact...which apparently is just “react at all” or sigh with quiet desperation one more time and try and explain how once again this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue at hand...which apparently is hilarious...and then for ‘moderates’ to see this reaction and go, “my word but those leftists are such silly billies. I shall align myself with this faceless horde of internet dwellers and disparage feminism and anti-racist efforts because they seem calm and logical and certainly never overreact to anything. Ever. Now excuse me, one of them seems to have a completely proportional response to a survey of video game tropes...”

Which...Is that happening, really? Do you really think this is anything anyone but them is going to remember in six months when they trot it out as an example of how unsophisticated leftists are?

I don’t see it. It’s just another group masturbate from the wankiest corner of the internet.

[Sanctissima]

Which is complete and utter nonsense.

By that logic it's not racist for a white person to hate black people if they live pretty much anywhere in sub-Saharan Africa.

It's just stupid worldplay that's designed to dodge the question of whether or not certain people are truly the knights in shining socially just armour that they claim to be.

If you have no power, your prejudice isn't able to do anything.

We have the "dictionary definition" of racism, that is a generalised understanding for trying to teach a layperson what a word is.
Then we have a substantive, contextual definition of racism that actually means something, to describe a phenomenon. This is, power and prejudice.

Yes, a white person in a majority non-white country where a majority of the institutions are controlled and run by non-white people obviously can "be racist", much as blacks in white-majority countries can "be racist". But these are movements that are minorities within minorities, they have no control and limited influence. They cannot capitalise on their views. The majority can.

(fyi, majority also has two meanings - numerical majority and social majority - who controls the power and influence in society)

"See, we have a basic layman's definition, and an advanced definition for us enlightened Marxists that the filthy proles we claim to represent are too stupid to comprehend."

Can you... be any more self-absorbed and condescending?

No, institutional power does not denote some kind of "substantive, contextual definition of racism". That's an utterly redundant view of racism that's rooted in a broader, outdated Marxist understanding of oppression.

[Altorthfnara]

I think the campaign is brilliant, because it forces SJWs to either say that it's not ok to be white, or what racial pride is off limits for white people. And there is definitely anti-white sentiment these days.
https://twitter.com/Politikking/status/ ... 0471981056

[Omakhandia]

Well, yes, it's dogwhistling.

Because it came "from the chans" doesn't make it not serious.

Of course it does. You just ignore it and it goes away.

If they really wanted to start a dialogue (which, you know, they didn't), starting this campaign on 4Chan or wherever was a very poor decision. The posters themselves may not advocate for white supremacy, but you can bet that the people who started this do.

[Albrenia]

It’s just another group masturbate from the wankiest corner of the internet.

Pretty much this, from what I can see.

[Valgora]

I think the campaign is brilliant, because it forces SJWs to either say that it's not ok to be white, or what racial pride is off limits for white people. And there is definitely anti-white sentiment these days.
https://twitter.com/Politikking/status/ ... 0471981056

What a stupid tweet.

[Sanctissima]

Which is complete and utter nonsense.

By that logic it's not racist for a white person to hate black people if they live pretty much anywhere in sub-Saharan Africa.

It's just stupid worldplay that's designed to dodge the question of whether or not certain people are truly the knights in shining socially just armour that they claim to be.

That's partly what I was getting at in my previous comment. What about white kids refusing to interact with black kids in high school? They're peers; there's no institutional power there whatsoever. Still racist.

Exactly.

Whether or not a person is racist depends on their individual views, not where they happen to find themselves on a social ladder.

[Vassenor]

I think the campaign is brilliant, because it forces SJWs to either say that it's not ok to be white, or what racial pride is off limits for white people. And there is definitely anti-white sentiment these days.
https://twitter.com/Politikking/status/ ... 0471981056

What part of that tweet demonstrates anti-white sentiment? It's the usual spiel complaining that a city is no longer absolute majority white British.

[Shofercia]

http://wjla.com/news/local/its-okay-to-be-white-sign-posted-on-doors-of-montgomery-blair-hs-in-md
https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/ ... d-america/

A campaign began to demonstrate the extent of anti-white racism in the US by handing out flyers with 5 words on them. "It's okay to be white."

Instructions:

Do Not Alter The Message
Do Not Alter The Flyers
Anyone Who Tries To Change Things Is A Shill
There Is No Phase 2

It’s Okay To Be White. 5 words. Simple, elegant, effective. The plan is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2.

If you take part remember; print the original flyers in the pic, post them in legal areas, be aware of cameras, and get home safely.

Do not trespass. Do not Vandalize. Do not post over other signs or flyers. Do not say anything racist or provocative in the comments of news stories. We are giving the left all the rope they want and they are racing to hang themselves. The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer. It is working. Stick to the plan. There is no phase 2. Anyone who suggests change is a shill.

Reaction;

“Really? Those type of posters? In a school as diverse as Blair,” asked senior Antoinette Ntomb.
School stats show 15 percent of Blair’s student body is Asian, 24 percent are black, and 33 percent are Hispanic.
“As a parent, yeah, it’s something that troubles me. It troubles us,” said parent Shaun Burke.

Principal Renay Johnson sent parents a letter that said in part “… we will not fall victim to attempts to divide us. We are committed to providing a safe and welcoming environment for every student.”
“I am hoping there is not a repeat, but I guess we will see,” said parent Mayu Mishina.

According to San Francisco’s CBS affiliate KPIX, UC Davis students found posters in their college and this immediately caused students to react negatively.

“Are you insinuating that people of color are saying it’s bad to be white?” asked Ales Lee, of the UC Davis Black Leadership Council. “Whoever is posting these photos, I don’t think they’re realizing how triggering these posters are for people.”
UC Davis Chancellor Gary May wrote in the California Aggie that UC Davis encourages dialogue about ideas “many find disturbing,” he added that “fliers, however, are not dialogue.”

Josh Dalavai, president of the undergraduate student association at UC Davis said it was okay to be white, then immediately added that the fliers were a “brazen appeal to white victimhood,” which is a “very primitive, very tribal, narrow-minded ideology.”

According to HuffPo, Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring, Maryland found the fliers in their school and sent a letter home to parents to tell them that this was “a concerted national campaign to foment racial and political tension in our school and community” in order to divide community members.

President of Concordia College in Moorhead, Minnesota, William Craft, added it’s okay to be white, but added that non-whiteness is viewed by too many as “not okay,” adding that “to be other than white is all too often to be subjected to discrimination, lack of opportunity, and even the threat and reality of violence.”

(Note, the last is the only reasonable response, though doesn't highlight anti-white sentiments demonstrated to exist by this campaign and others.)

Universities and schools across the country, as well as some other areas, are being targeted by the poster campaign.
I approve of the campaign and think it makes its point fairly straightforwardly. The stunt relies on the same rhetorical justifications as "Black lives matter", though doesn't rely on the argument of disproportional shootings that prompted the saying which has been shown to be dubious when stats are evaluated.

The statement should not be controversial, but is. That's somewhat revealing for both phrases.

EDIT:
If you believe the phrase "Black lives matter" should have been put forward as "All lives matter" and reject the rhetorical justifications, arguing it heightens racial tensions and such, it is consistent to oppose this campaign, unless you view it as making a point along those lines or highlighting it by provoking progressives into making the argument that it should say "It's okay to be any race" or whatever.

I like this campaign a lot. It sends a clear message to the Dems - you either improve lives for all US Citizens, or you'll get fucked. Enough of this focus on improving lives for the minorities and the DNC's corporate sponsors. Because right now, white people don't feel represented in DC. There's the party of the rich & corporations, and there's the party of minorities & corporations - guess who's left out? Oh yeah, poor and middle class whites. Poor/middle class whites need to unionize the vote and tell either party - "represent us, or get fucked!"

And this is elegant. Just five words stating something that's common sense. If some get triggered by it - too bad. This is political discourse, and if it makes you uncomfortable - step out of the kitchen. Also, neither this, nor BLM, is race-baiting. Race-baiting is when you target a specific race, i.e. "white people love trucks, Confederate Flags, and running over minority kids" and it's not when you say BLM!

[Holy Tedalonia]

I think the campaign is brilliant, because it forces SJWs to either say that it's not ok to be white, or what racial pride is off limits for white people. And there is definitely anti-white sentiment these days.
https://twitter.com/Politikking/status/ ... 0471981056

What part of that tweet demonstrates anti-white sentiment? It's the usual spiel complaining that a city is no longer absolute majority white British.

What part of Black Lives Matters demonstrates anti-black sentiment? It's the usual spiel complaining that they're being oppressed by white people still.

Also why do they name themselves that? If they called themselves all lives matter in the first place.

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It's okay to be whatever you are... it's not okay to be a racist sh*thead. Where did the campaign originate? Racist sh*theads on 4chan, who apparently made a concerted effort to distance themselves from the whole thing.



I will admit that people get worked up over silly things sometimes... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/is-peanut-butter-and-jelly-racist_n_1874905.html (uhh no it isn't) ...the posters themselves are not the real problem, it's the people who put them up and the views they espouse. I'm a leftist of sorts, and I don't hate white people (or black people, Mexicans, Jews, Muslims, etc.), so I am living proof that these people are deluded. The people putting the posters up in an attempt to offend people don't realize that they themselves are much more easily triggered than the vast majority of their "target audience." It's kind of sad, but also kind of funny.

I'm still gonna rip this crap down if I see it And if that offends you, then you're only proving my point, lel

[Vassenor]

So what are these concerns of white people that the Democrats are failing to address?

[Proctopeo]

And those who react that way are idiots, plain and simple.

They're calling out pro-white nationalist dogwhistling.

No, they're idiots, plain and simple.

Absolutely no-one disagrees with the basic, contextless statement "it's okay to be white".

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
The linked article first disagrees with the statement verbatim then spirals into - bluntly - insanity.
The linked tweet is from a potentially legitimate Twitter account; it's certainly not a bot, at least.
There are certainly other examples of less specific disagreements, that don't say "it's not okay to be white" specifically.

It's meaningless, empty, and just bizarre. No-one, probably not even literal black supremacists, have said "it is not okay to be white". "White people are all dicks", of course, isn't quite the same epithet.

Black supremacists, especially the most extreme ones, would likely say that it's not okay for white people to exist. Which is a more radical version of the same concept.

The only people who have a reason to try and spread a statement such as "it's okay to be white" are white nationalists, who are sowing a narrative.
As they say, it is working.

[Sanctissima]

Of course it does. You just ignore it and it goes away.

If they really wanted to start a dialogue (which, you know, they didn't), starting this campaign on 4Chan or wherever was a very poor decision. The posters themselves may not advocate for white supremacy, but you can bet that the people who started this do.

Eh, it's part and parcel with the type of crowd 4chan attracts.

It's not really so much a matter of starting a dialogue as much as it is pointing out the flaws of a certain segment of the political spectrum whilst having a bit of fun in the process.

These are people who semi-ironically worship an Ancient Egyptian frog god of chaos, after all.

[Holy Tedalonia]

So what are these concerns of white people that the Democrats are failing to address?

I'm not white. I'm a vampire