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Is it though?

It's okay to be white, the campaign is good.
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It's okay to be white, the campaign is bad. (Explain below.)
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It's not okay to be white.
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Total votes : 811

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:49 pm

Race-baiting is okay when white people do it it seems.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:54 pm

I honestly don't see the point in this.
It just sounds stupid.

I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."

The only thing I've truly considered racism against whites, is the quotas for schools to have minorities.
And I'm pretty sure that was ruled unconstitutional.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:54 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:Race-baiting is okay when white people do it it seems.

How do you get that opinion?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:57 pm

Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
It just sounds stupid.

I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."

The only thing I've truly considered racism against whites, is the quotas for schools to have minorities.
And I'm pretty sure that was ruled unconstitutional.

It's not really racism, unless your updated with the new several definitions of racism the liberals have created.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:01 pm

I don't approve of this "campaign," which is clearly an exercise in provocation for the sake of amusing its originators and providing their victimhood complex with the validation they crave, rather than a mature effort to engage in dialogue about serious issues. However, I fully expect similar stunts to follow across the United States and possibly beyond, since those in positions of authority have responded in precisely the manner expected and desired by the provocateurs behind it, in a spectacular display of the ongoing obliviousness of much of America's liberal establishment.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:02 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:I don't approve of this "campaign," which is clearly an exercise in provocation for the sake of amusing its originators and providing their victimhood complex with the validation they crave, rather than a mature effort to engage in dialogue about serious issues. However, I fully expect similar stunts to follow across the United States and possibly beyond, since those in positions of authority have responded in precisely the manner expected and desired by the provocateurs behind it, in a spectacular display of the ongoing obliviousness of much of America's liberal establishment.

To be fair any race base organization is asking for trouble.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:04 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I don't approve of this "campaign," which is clearly an exercise in provocation for the sake of amusing its originators and providing their victimhood complex with the validation they crave, rather than a mature effort to engage in dialogue about serious issues. However, I fully expect similar stunts to follow across the United States and possibly beyond, since those in positions of authority have responded in precisely the manner expected and desired by the provocateurs behind it, in a spectacular display of the ongoing obliviousness of much of America's liberal establishment.

To be fair any race base organization is asking for trouble.


I'd say that depends, especially when the organization (or movement) is a response to legitimate racism or other problems.
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Postby Omakhandia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:15 pm

Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."


The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:22 pm

Omakhandia wrote:
Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."


The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.


I still don't see this "anti-white racism" because A. it just a poll on a forum on the interwebs, and B. there's only three options for the poll.

I wouldn't be surprised if many chose that option because they thought the campaign was stupid.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:37 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I don't approve of this "campaign," which is clearly an exercise in provocation for the sake of amusing its originators and providing their victimhood complex with the validation they crave, rather than a mature effort to engage in dialogue about serious issues. However, I fully expect similar stunts to follow across the United States and possibly beyond, since those in positions of authority have responded in precisely the manner expected and desired by the provocateurs behind it, in a spectacular display of the ongoing obliviousness of much of America's liberal establishment.

To be fair any race base organization is asking for trouble.

The NAACP is asking for trouble.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:38 pm

Omakhandia wrote:
Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."


The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.

Assuming they're genuine responses and not trollbaiting.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:40 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Omakhandia wrote:
The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.

Assuming they're genuine responses and not trollbaiting.


Lots of genuine responses in the real world, why not here?

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Postby Revolutionary Equestria » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:41 pm

Actual anti-white discrimination exists. Just look at colleges... The entries into them; on average at the least white Americans should take up a larger percentage of college students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXjAaxpI2I
The Alternate Hypothesis goes deep into this, there are other places and ones that are harder to prove. But discrimination like this truly exists against the white race, with the exception for Jews who love to make themselves out to be white.
They're not
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:44 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:I don't approve of this "campaign," which is clearly an exercise in provocation for the sake of amusing its originators and providing their victimhood complex with the validation they crave, rather than a mature effort to engage in dialogue about serious issues. However, I fully expect similar stunts to follow across the United States and possibly beyond, since those in positions of authority have responded in precisely the manner expected and desired by the provocateurs behind it, in a spectacular display of the ongoing obliviousness of much of America's liberal establishment.

Essentially, yeah.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:44 pm

Revolutionary Equestria wrote:Actual anti-white discrimination exists. Just look at colleges... The entries into them; on average at the least white Americans should take up a larger percentage of college students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXjAaxpI2I
The Alternate Hypothesis goes deep into this, there are other places and ones that are harder to prove. But discrimination like this truly exists against the white race, with the exception for Jews who love to make themselves out to be white.
They're not


Umm...
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:45 pm

Omakhandia wrote:
Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."


The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.

I was just going to do it to be contrarian tbh. And because of my passionate belief in black nationalism.
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Postby Revolutionary Equestria » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:46 pm

Valgora wrote:Umm...


Yes. Jews, they're not discriminated against like how whites are with these colleges. Also, Jews aren't white....
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:47 pm

Valgora wrote:
Revolutionary Equestria wrote:Actual anti-white discrimination exists. Just look at colleges... The entries into them; on average at the least white Americans should take up a larger percentage of college students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXjAaxpI2I
The Alternate Hypothesis goes deep into this, there are other places and ones that are harder to prove. But discrimination like this truly exists against the white race, with the exception for Jews who love to make themselves out to be white.
They're not


Umm...
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You didn't realise colour charts included "Jew white"? :p
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:47 pm

Revolutionary Equestria wrote:Actual anti-white discrimination exists. Just look at colleges... The entries into them; on average at the least white Americans should take up a larger percentage of college students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXjAaxpI2I
The Alternate Hypothesis goes deep into this, there are other places and ones that are harder to prove. But discrimination like this truly exists against the white race, with the exception for Jews who love to make themselves out to be white.
They're not

Well you could argue that they're not totally white because attitudes like this exist.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:47 pm

Omakhandia wrote:
Valgora wrote:I honestly don't see the point in this.
I've never seen this so called "anti-white racism."


The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.


Dude, on these boards about 15% of people voted that Nazis are very fine people, very fine. Don't underestimate shitvoters.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:47 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Assuming they're genuine responses and not trollbaiting.


Lots of genuine responses in the real world, why not here?

GIFT, that's why.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:49 pm

Revolutionary Equestria wrote:
Valgora wrote:Umm...


Yes. Jews, they're not discriminated against like how whites are with these colleges. Also, Jews aren't white....


I'm pretty sure some Jewish people are white. Oh wait, I just read your sig. Never mind.

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Postby Omakhandia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:58 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Omakhandia wrote:
The fact that 7% of people voted for "It's not okay to be white" in this poll suggests otherwise.

I was just going to do it to be contrarian tbh. And because of my passionate belief in black nationalism.


Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it gives these people precisely the evidence they need to push their views. Even if all 25 people who voted for that option were trolling, that doesn't change the fact that there exists a vocal minority of progressives who push narratives such as "White people are all racist" and "It's impossible to be racist towards a white person." I can no more pretend those people don't exist than you can pretend the alt-right doesn't exist. They are not representative of their larger respective groups, so it is in the best interests of those groups to denounce them.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:02 pm

Omakhandia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I was just going to do it to be contrarian tbh. And because of my passionate belief in black nationalism.


Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it gives these people precisely the evidence they need to push their views. Even if all 25 people who voted for that option were trolling, that doesn't change the fact that there exists a vocal minority of progressives who push narratives such as "White people are all racist" and "It's impossible to be racist towards a white person." I can no more pretend those people don't exist than you can pretend the alt-right doesn't exist. They are not representative of their larger respective groups, so it is in the best interests of those groups to denounce them.

Their rationale makes sense, they just use different definitions for racism.
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Postby Omakhandia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:08 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Omakhandia wrote:
Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it gives these people precisely the evidence they need to push their views. Even if all 25 people who voted for that option were trolling, that doesn't change the fact that there exists a vocal minority of progressives who push narratives such as "White people are all racist" and "It's impossible to be racist towards a white person." I can no more pretend those people don't exist than you can pretend the alt-right doesn't exist. They are not representative of their larger respective groups, so it is in the best interests of those groups to denounce them.

Their rationale makes sense, they just use different definitions for racism.


Okay then... I hate the Jews. I just use different definitions for "hate" and "Jews."

Constructive dialogue is impossible when we can't even agree on the basic definitions of words.
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