It's Okay To Be White campaign

[Vassenor]

...You're going to need a bigger shovel if you keep trying to cram words into my mouth. But please, show me where I asked if anyone was oppressed solely on account of their ethnicity.

Right here:

Come to think of it has anyone demonstrated actual systemic oppression against white Americans on the grounds of their ethnicity yet?

...So how does that suggest people being oppressed solely on the ground of their ethnicity rather than being an intersectional factor?

[36 Camera Perspective]

Right here:

...So how does that suggest people being oppressed solely on the ground of their ethnicity rather than being an intersectional factor?

The phrase "on the grounds of their ethnicity" and the fact that you only mentioned "white" Americans rather than say, "poor, white Americans" means that you were thinking solely in terms of race.

Oh, and you're saying intersectional now too? You're going to have to apologize for what you said earlier, then.

[Alvecia]

Come to think of it has anyone demonstrated actual systemic oppression against white Americans on the grounds of their ethnicity yet?

There has NEVER been any Anti-White or White suppression in human history.

Some people confuse white suppression with equal ethnic rights.

Okay, now I think this campaign is fucking stupid, but that’s blatantly false.

Try looking at history outside the West, it’s not difficult to find

[Albrenia]

I'm not quite sure how to ask this question without sounding like an asshole (hell, I might be one anyway) but here goes anyway:

Is there any actual point to calculating one's oppression level? I mean, what good does it do anyone to know that they are slightly more oppressed than one group and slightly less than another?

You don't really need to do all that if your focus is on getting equality for all, do you?

[Vassenor]

...So how does that suggest people being oppressed solely on the ground of their ethnicity rather than being an intersectional factor?

The phrase "on the grounds of their ethnicity" and the fact that you only mentioned "white" Americans rather than say, "poor, white Americans" means that you were thinking solely in terms of race.

Oh, and you're saying intersectional now too? You're going to have to apologize for what you said earlier, then.

...So yes you're admitting you're shoving words in my mouth to try and nitpick me to death rather than actually responding to my argument.

[36 Camera Perspective]

The phrase "on the grounds of their ethnicity" and the fact that you only mentioned "white" Americans rather than say, "poor, white Americans" means that you were thinking solely in terms of race.

Oh, and you're saying intersectional now too? You're going to have to apologize for what you said earlier, then.

...So yes you're admitting you're shoving words in my mouth to try and nitpick me to death rather than actually responding to my argument.

Ah, so apparently answering the question that you asked is now nitpicking. You asked a question and I answered it.

There's no strawman here, Vassenor. Your quote clearly indicates, based on the phrases I quoted, that you were thinking of oppression as a function of race and nothing else. You conveniently skipped over this textual evidence in order to fabricate a claim that I'm somehow "admitting" to shoving words in your mouth. Ironically, the only thing you've accomplished is putting words in my mouth.

I did address your argument. Your argument is based on a flawed understanding of identity, as I've already explained. The only one without an argument here is you.

[The Huskar Social Union]

There has NEVER been any Anti-White or White suppression in human history.

Some people confuse white suppression with equal ethnic rights.

Okay, now I think this campaign is fucking stupid, but that’s blatantly false.

Try looking at history outside the West, it’s not difficult to find

Also there has been discrimination against people who were the "wrong" kind of white throughout history, and some even classed as being part of a different race to justify it sometimes

[Alvecia]

Okay, now I think this campaign is fucking stupid, but that’s blatantly false.

Try looking at history outside the West, it’s not difficult to find

Also there has been discrimination against people who were the "wrong" kind of white throughout history, and some even classed as being part of a different race to justify it sometimes

White on white violence.

The Irish and Italians in the US might be one example of it. Certainly there was a wave of anti-polish sentiment in the uk that’s since been drowned out by the anti brown immigration.

[Vassenor]

Also there has been discrimination against people who were the "wrong" kind of white throughout history, and some even classed as being part of a different race to justify it sometimes

White on white violence.

The Irish and Italians in the US might be one example of it. Certainly there was a wave of anti-polish sentiment in the uk that’s since been drowned out by the anti brown immigration.

...Pretty sure it flared back up after Brexit.

[Alvecia]

White on white violence.

The Irish and Italians in the US might be one example of it. Certainly there was a wave of anti-polish sentiment in the uk that’s since been drowned out by the anti brown immigration.

...Pretty sure it flared back up after Brexit.

You’d have thought so. I never heard much about it to be honest. From what I’ve seen they pretty well integrated. Only really the purists that are bothered anymore.

[North Creeper]

I’m having trouble deciding whether this thread looks like Tumblr or more like 4chan.

[Vassenor]

...Pretty sure it flared back up after Brexit.

You’d have thought so. I never heard much about it to be honest. From what I’ve seen they pretty well integrated. Only really the purists that are bothered anymore.

To pull a few examples:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-41584532/the-truth-about-hate-crime-and-brexit

Brexit fuels hate crime in Avon and Somerset, says PCC

Banbridge hate crimes 'could be linked' - Vandalism including "EU rats out" along with a swastika sprayed on the side of someone's garage.

"Welsh police forces saw 'hate crime rise' after EU referendum"

Hate crime 'still far too high' post-Brexit - police

[North Creeper]

This is stupid. The same thing happened to Harvard, and they took them down because they have a ‘ diverse student body’ and ‘racism is not tolerated’. When will people realize that’s All Lives Matter?

"All Lives Matter" is little more than a cheap attempt to dismiss the legitimacy of black concerns over police abuse and discrimination.

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact. Don’t blame police so much next time when black people are hit a little harder in a riot.

[The Huskar Social Union]

"All Lives Matter" is little more than a cheap attempt to dismiss the legitimacy of black concerns over police abuse and discrimination.

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

ANITFA is not just made up of black people.

[Petrasylvania]

"All Lives Matter" is little more than a cheap attempt to dismiss the legitimacy of black concerns over police abuse and discrimination.

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

Studies also show blacks and whites use marijuana at the same rate, but guess which race gets arrested and convicted for marijuana use more?

[North Creeper]

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

ANITFA is not just made up of black people.

Mostly it is.

[Vassenor]

ANITFA is not just made up of black people.

Mostly it is.

Let's see your data.

[Vassenor]

"All Lives Matter" is little more than a cheap attempt to dismiss the legitimacy of black concerns over police abuse and discrimination.

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact. Don’t blame police so much next time when black people are hit a little harder in a riot.

Studies show that white people STATISICALLY commit more hate crime than black people. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

[North Creeper]

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

Studies also show blacks and whites use marijuana at the same rate, but guess which race gets arrested and convicted for marijuana use more?

Blacks, because black rappers tend to rap about the stuff! But I do agree with you, whites should be arrested more for smoking weed.

[North Creeper]

Listen. Studies show that black people STATISICALLY commit more crime than whites. ANTIFA is a good example. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact. Don’t blame police so much next time when black people are hit a little harder in a riot.

Studies show that white people STATISICALLY commit more hate crime than black people. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

Hate crime being crime against any other race than white, so actually hate crime means crime against any other race than whites nowadays. If we had a more reasonable definition not created by triggered SJWs, then hate crime would be the effect by major black organizations.

[Collectivist Germania]

ANITFA is not just made up of black people.

Mostly it is.

lmao, what? Every ANTIFA so-called "anti-racist" spergout has been a bloody ocean of white liberals. Very few blacks are interested in fighting for ANTIFA, they've flocked to BLM.

[Alvecia]

You’d have thought so. I never heard much about it to be honest. From what I’ve seen they pretty well integrated. Only really the purists that are bothered anymore.

To pull a few examples:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-41584532/the-truth-about-hate-crime-and-brexit

Brexit fuels hate crime in Avon and Somerset, says PCC

Banbridge hate crimes 'could be linked' - Vandalism including "EU rats out" along with a swastika sprayed on the side of someone's garage.

"Welsh police forces saw 'hate crime rise' after EU referendum"

Hate crime 'still far too high' post-Brexit - police

Not to be a debbie downer, but the only incidents of polish racism there are annecdotes.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but there's nothing there to suggest it's at any greater level than any other ethinicity.

[Alvecia]

Studies also show blacks and whites use marijuana at the same rate, but guess which race gets arrested and convicted for marijuana use more?

Blacks, because black rappers tend to rap about the stuff! But I do agree with you, whites should be arrested more for smoking weed.

lolwat

[Vassenor]

Studies show that white people STATISICALLY commit more hate crime than black people. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but this is fact.

Hate crime being crime against any other race than white, so actually hate crime means crime against any other race than whites nowadays. If we had a more reasonable definition not created by triggered SJWs, then hate crime would be the effect by major black organizations.

TIL the FBI is "triggered SJWs".

[Finswedeway]

My pops always said: "play the argument, not the man."

That’s a weird thing for your pops to always say.

Regardless, it’s not really an argument, is it? It simultaneously creates its opposition while it creates itself. No one is saying it’s not okay to be white, so who is this argument with? Say something obvious or without contention here and people will fall all over themselves to tell you the pooping habits of bears, the religion of the pope, and what hue the sky is during the day. Why are you making this point?

If you’re offering this argument, even if you stifle your giggles and shrug really hard and go “honest mister, we don’t mean noffin’ by it...” the implication of the counter argument is that someone somewhere holds the position “it is not okay to be white.”

So the “simple” statement “it’s okay to be white” and the implied need to say it also says that someone disagrees with this or that it is not a commonly accepted idea.

Well, now we have an actually recognizable position. There is one particular crowd that confuses anti racist efforts with anti white.

And the best part is that we don’t have to pull a curtain to see what’s at play. They’re standing in front of it high fiving each other thinking “job well done.”

He only said it at the dinner table when everyone is arguing politics with each other, and he didn't necessarily say it to me.

The response the media has given over this statement is that there is in fact an anti-white sentiment among them. Seriously, people get so upset over it. But if one is upset merely by the statement, would that not imply they believe the opposite?