It's Okay To Be White campaign

[Liriena]

You seem awfully intent on convincing yourself that white supremacists are righteous and winning.

Anyway, I disagree. There is a clear malicious intent, and if this campaign aimed to expose "hypocrisy", all it seems to have exposed how attuned many are to the malice underlying antics like this one. If it has worked to convince others of its proponents' delusional worldview, that's something we need to work on, because it reveals a very troubling lack of ability to see past the superficiality of far right propaganda in many circles.

To be fair, all they're doing is saying, "it's ok to be white."

Except that's not all they're saying. The slogan is "it's okay to be white", but that's not everything that's been said. We have, in the very OP, the text of the "campaigners" explaining the underlying intent of the campaign, and that cannot be excluded from our interpretation of the campaign as a whole. A campaign is always more than its slogans.

[Holy Tedalonia]

To be fair, all they're doing is saying, "it's ok to be white."

Except that's not all they're saying. The slogan is "it's okay to be white", but that's not everything that's been said. We have, in the very OP, the text of the "campaigners" explaining the underlying intent of the campaign, and that cannot be excluded from our interpretation of the campaign as a whole. A campaign is always more than its slogans.

Yeah, and it's intent is to show a anti-white bias, if this was truly "racist" or anything then they would have a rather more radical twist on it, however this is runned by trollers and 4channers, so its intent is really just to get a reaction from the left and showing how overeactive they are, which they a succeeding.

[Liriena]

Except that's not all they're saying. The slogan is "it's okay to be white", but that's not everything that's been said. We have, in the very OP, the text of the "campaigners" explaining the underlying intent of the campaign, and that cannot be excluded from our interpretation of the campaign as a whole. A campaign is always more than its slogans.

Yeah, and it's intent is to show a anti-white bias, if this was truly "racist" or anything then they would have a rather more radical twist on it, however this is runned by trollers and 4channers, so its intent is really just to get a reaction from the left and showing how overeactive they are, which they a succeeding.

And what ideology do you think these "trollers and 4channers" suscribe to? Hint: it's probably not liberalism, socialism or conservatism.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

It's working quite well actually.

There is no more malicious intent than there is in any campaign that exposes hypocrisy.

It's everything NSG wants to be.

You seem awfully intent on convincing yourself that white supremacists are righteous and winning.

Further proof it's working. This is exactly the kind of thing it exposes.

[Liriena]

You seem awfully intent on convincing yourself that white supremacists are righteous and winning.

Further proof it's working. This is exactly the kind of thing it exposes.

And that is this "kind of thing"? "Anti-white bias"?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Yeah, and it's intent is to show a anti-white bias, if this was truly "racist" or anything then they would have a rather more radical twist on it, however this is runned by trollers and 4channers, so its intent is really just to get a reaction from the left and showing how overeactive they are, which they a succeeding.

And what ideology do you think these "trollers and 4channers" suscribe to? Hint: it's probably not liberalism, socialism or conservatism.

It's probably libertarianism.

[Aellex]

I'm of the opinion that you should push politics in friendships (and family) if you're genuinely worried that the person in question is putting themselves in a dangerous position or becoming particularly toxic.

I would disagree, politic and religion are things you shouldn't push on friends and family.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Yeah, and it's intent is to show a anti-white bias, if this was truly "racist" or anything then they would have a rather more radical twist on it, however this is runned by trollers and 4channers, so its intent is really just to get a reaction from the left and showing how overeactive they are, which they a succeeding.

And what ideology do you think these "trollers and 4channers" suscribe to? Hint: it's probably not liberalism, socialism or conservatism.

*shrug*
Don't know, but they're doing it.

This is not conspiratorial. It is enough to go to the forums that those kinds of people behind the campaign go to to recognize that they literally have this existential dread and feel as if there is even a conspiracy that persecutes white people.
I mean, understanding that as a basis of their opinions isn't difficult, it's enough to hear them speak.

No. There is no "many interpretations that are equally relevant"- this is some "Cartesian Evil Demon" level of mistrust of your senses and empirical analysis.

Thats BS and you know it. Their plan was to simply troll, they don't really have hate, and they intend to show the BS your promoting.

http://archive.is/klFIy

5. normies tune in to see what's going on, see the posters saying "it's okay to be white" and the media & leftists frothing at the mouth

They are literally using this to just piss you off

How your reacting to this is EXACTLY their intention and is EXACTLY what they want. It's to literally to prove that white people can't start campaigns without being called neo-nazis or white nationalist. You fell for their trap and you know it. Right now they're looking at reactions LIKE YOURS and laughing their balls off.

#PoliticallyIncorrect

[Liriena]

And what ideology do you think these "trollers and 4channers" suscribe to? Hint: it's probably not liberalism, socialism or conservatism.

It's probably libertarianism.

I'll be extremely generous and grant that some might be "anarcho-capitalists". Sadly, in my experience, if you scratch an ancap, you're probably gonna find a fascist (and child molestation apologist) lying underneath.

[Aellex]

And that is this "kind of thing"? "Anti-white bias"?

Willful ideological blindness, rather, I would say and a tad bit of hypocrisy and delusion too.

[Liriena]

And what ideology do you think these "trollers and 4channers" suscribe to? Hint: it's probably not liberalism, socialism or conservatism.

*shrug*
Don't know, but they're doing it.

Thats BS and you know it. Their plan was to simply troll, they don't really have hate, and they intend to show the BS your promoting.

http://archive.is/klFIy


They are literally using this to just piss you off

How your reacting to this is EXACTLY their intention and is EXACTLY what they want. It's to literally to prove that white people can't start campaigns without being called neo-nazis or white nationalist. You fell for their trap and you know it. Right now they're looking at reactions LIKE YOURS and laughing their balls off.

#PoliticallyIncorrect

Wanna make a guess?

I'm guessing they are at least "white nationalists" who occasionally virtue signal how much they love freedom.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I'm of the opinion that you should push politics in friendships (and family) if you're genuinely worried that the person in question is putting themselves in a dangerous position or becoming particularly toxic.

I would disagree, politic and religion are things you shouldn't push on friends and family.

Totally agree, my family is filled with differing views. To bring up politics is lighting a powder keg.

[Holy Tedalonia]

*shrug*
Don't know, but they're doing it.

Wanna make a guess?

I'm guessing they are at least "white nationalists" who occasionally virtue signal how much they love freedom.

There is no such thing as white nationalist, except for nationalist who are white.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Wanna make a guess?

I'm guessing they are at least "white nationalists" who occasionally virtue signal how much they love freedom.

There is no such thing as white nationalist, except for nationalist who are white.

White nationalism is a thing, ie people who want an all white ethnostate.

[Holy Tedalonia]

There is no such thing as white nationalist, except for nationalist who are white.

White nationalism is a thing, ie people who want an all white ethnostate.

I meant by everyday people, not people that a radicals. Lir is just being a conspiracy theorist. I mean not everybody from the right is a Richard Spencer.

[Liriena]

And that is this "kind of thing"? "Anti-white bias"?

Willful ideological blindness, rather, I would say and a tad bit of hypocrisy and delusion too.

Elaborate.

I'm of the opinion that you should push politics in friendships (and family) if you're genuinely worried that the person in question is putting themselves in a dangerous position or becoming particularly toxic.

I would disagree, politic and religion are things you shouldn't push on friends and family.

I agree only to an extent. In most cases, I'm fine keeping politics and religion out of my interactions with friends and family, specially if we disagree, but I also think that there are specific circumstances in which it'd be acceptable (and even necessary). If, for instance, I saw a formerly libertarian friend starting to get himself involved in openly, explicitly fascist circles, or saw a family member getting exposed to a lot of misinformation, I'd step in. Past a certain point, it stops being just a disagreement with loved ones and it starts being a legitimate cause for concern.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

White nationalism is a thing, ie people who want an all white ethnostate.

I meant by everyday people, not people that a radicals. Lir is just being a conspiracy theorist. I mean not everybody from the right is a Richard Spencer.

Richard Spencer is a commie.

[Liriena]

http://archive.is/klFIy

Having read all of that... I don't think you can really claim that there's no white supremacism at play here.

A history, I might add, that has brought about the very civilization that you all take for granted. The wood and steel mills that founded the very chair that you're sitting on, the drywall and insulation that keeps you nice and toasty, the tar and shingles of the roof that keeps the rain and snow from falling on your head.... Everything was built by whites.

Jealous haters, enabled by Jews (seeking not to be a minority themselves) want to claim that being White is a bad thing. Remember this, it was Whites who ended slavery and a host of other calamities. We're not the bad guys.

And the rest... these people aren't simply innocent, well-meaning centrists, libertarians or conservatives trying to "expose" hypocrisy. They are trying to radicalize "normies" into their clearly far right worldview.

[Liriena]

White nationalism is a thing, ie people who want an all white ethnostate.

I meant by everyday people, not people that a radicals.

If that's what you meant, why didn't you... you know... say it like that? We're not psychics.

Lir is just being a conspiracy theorist.

Not really. I'm only pointing out that the 4channers made explicitly obvious.

I mean not everybody from the right is a Richard Spencer.

Well, duh. Richard Spencer is one little turd in the sea.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

http://archive.is/klFIy

Having read all of that... I don't think you can really claim that there's no white supremacism at play here.

A history, I might add, that has brought about the very civilization that you all take for granted. The wood and steel mills that founded the very chair that you're sitting on, the drywall and insulation that keeps you nice and toasty, the tar and shingles of the roof that keeps the rain and snow from falling on your head.... Everything was built by whites.

Jealous haters, enabled by Jews (seeking not to be a minority themselves) want to claim that being White is a bad thing. Remember this, it was Whites who ended slavery and a host of other calamities. We're not the bad guys.

And the rest... these people aren't simply innocent, well-meaning centrists, libertarians or conservatives trying to "expose" hypocrisy. They are trying to radicalize "normies" into their clearly far right worldview.

>Taking /pol/ seriously
>Ever
This is why they do campaigns like this.

[Liriena]

Having read all of that... I don't think you can really claim that there's no white supremacism at play here.

A history, I might add, that has brought about the very civilization that you all take for granted. The wood and steel mills that founded the very chair that you're sitting on, the drywall and insulation that keeps you nice and toasty, the tar and shingles of the roof that keeps the rain and snow from falling on your head.... Everything was built by whites.

Jealous haters, enabled by Jews (seeking not to be a minority themselves) want to claim that being White is a bad thing. Remember this, it was Whites who ended slavery and a host of other calamities. We're not the bad guys.

And the rest... these people aren't simply innocent, well-meaning centrists, libertarians or conservatives trying to "expose" hypocrisy. They are trying to radicalize "normies" into their clearly far right worldview.

>Taking /pol/ seriously
>Ever
This is why they do campaigns like this.

Then what do these people really believe? Are you saying that they are socialists or liberals collectively pulling a Colbert over and over and over? These peoples are not in any way genuinely racist, anti-semitic...?

You aren't naïve, so why are you buying their own face-saving excuses?

[Liriena]

>Taking /pol/ seriously
>Ever
This is why they do campaigns like this.

Then what do these people really believe? Are you saying that they are socialists or liberals collectively pulling a Colbert over and over and over? These peoples are not in any way genuinely racist, anti-semitic...?

You aren't naïve, so why are you buying their own face-saving excuses?

Seriously, y'all need more Contra.
https://youtu.be/Sx4BVGPkdzk?t=13m9s

[Galloism]

>Taking /pol/ seriously
>Ever
This is why they do campaigns like this.

Then what do these people really believe? Are you saying that they are socialists or liberals collectively pulling a Colbert over and over and over? These peoples are not in any way genuinely racist, anti-semitic...?

You aren't naïve, so why are you buying their own face-saving excuses?

As far as I can ascertain, /pol/ has exactly one belief:

Hold my beer and watch this!

[Washington Resistance Army]

Then what do these people really believe? Are you saying that they are socialists or liberals collectively pulling a Colbert over and over and over? These peoples are not in any way genuinely racist, anti-semitic...?

You aren't naïve, so why are you buying their own face-saving excuses?

As far as I can ascertain, /pol/ has exactly one belief:

Hold my beer and watch this!

This^

That's literally all they exist for.

[Computer Lab]

http://archive.is/klFIy

Having read all of that... I don't think you can really claim that there's no white supremacism at play here.

A history, I might add, that has brought about the very civilization that you all take for granted. The wood and steel mills that founded the very chair that you're sitting on, the drywall and insulation that keeps you nice and toasty, the tar and shingles of the roof that keeps the rain and snow from falling on your head.... Everything was built by whites.

Jealous haters, enabled by Jews (seeking not to be a minority themselves) want to claim that being White is a bad thing. Remember this, it was Whites who ended slavery and a host of other calamities. We're not the bad guys.

And the rest... these people aren't simply innocent, well-meaning centrists, libertarians or conservatives trying to "expose" hypocrisy. They are trying to radicalize "normies" into their clearly far right worldview.

They're a bunch of edgy 15-25 year olds who find pleasure in being different and trolling people. They are trying to amuse themselves. Not everything is political.

Are there some who subscribe to white nationalism? Yes, that is pretty likely. Are some of them a part of this campaign? Yeah, pretty likely given how the internet works.

There aren't very many white nationalists in the US though. They get an excessively large presence in the media because it gets views/clicks/sells papers. Same with Antifa and leftist groups. Anything done gets blown up, not out of malice, but out of chasing profits.

At a certain point, you have to recognize that ideas and campaigns can be decent regardless of source. Many of the Founding Fathers were slave owners and elitists. That doesn't make the American experiment invalid. They might not have wanted to give women or nonwhites rights, but large portions of their philosophies are acceptable. By now, we should be able to recognize what is good and acceptable in things and remove/ignore the bad parts... You don't have to swallow 100% of a concept to accept that some parts of it have merit.