It's Okay To Be White campaign

[Ostroeuropa]

No. It implies that it's okay to be white. That is all.
Stop searching for deeper meanings that are not there to justify your racism.

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists and anarchists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Same for Nelson Mandela and such. Why hold a different standard here? You sound as paranoid as the far-right raving about how everything since the 50s is a communist plot.

So some fascists said something reasonable for once. That's good, we're their allies in their reasonable pronouncements and their enemies at other times. If we treat them the same no matter what they say, that's hardly good teaching and conditioning to get them to quit their racism, now is it.

[Petrasylvania]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Same for Nelson Mandela and such. Why hold a different standard here?

Yet the FBI treated them as if they were communist fronts during the Civil Rights Movement.

[Proctopeo]

No. It implies that it's okay to be white. That is all.
Stop searching for deeper meanings that are not there to justify your racism.

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

Meanings inferred through intent and the people saying it are, by nature, subjective, and more importantly than that, are more subjective than meanings created through other meanings and the rules of language.

[Ostroeuropa]

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Same for Nelson Mandela and such. Why hold a different standard here?

Yet the FBI treated them as if they were communist fronts during the Civil Rights Movement.

Which was in error, I hope you agree.

[Aellex]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

No it doesn't. If neo-nazis say that "it's okay to drink milk", should I oppose them just for the sake of opposing them as if I was a toddler in his "No" phase?
If you have a problem with people saying such an innocuous thing as "it's okay to be white", you're most likely a racist because only that kind of people are that triggered over people having a different skin tone.

[Holy Tedalonia]

No. It implies that it's okay to be white. That is all.
Stop searching for deeper meanings that are not there to justify your racism.

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

I'm really questioning your logic. This troll group attempt was to point out the reaction of the left. If you truly think that this is racist then you fell for their trap. They're just a bunch of trolls, no hidden intent other then the intent to see your reaction. In reality this is not a racist attack, but a troll attack which (like they intended you to do) reacted assuming racism because anything that has the word "white" in it is clearly "racist"

[Kibbutz Unions]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

[Ostroeuropa]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

No it doesn't. If neo-nazis say that "it's okay to drink milk", should I oppose them just for the sake of opposing them as if I was a toddler in his "No" phase?
If you have a problem with people saying such an innocuous thing as "it's okay to be white", you're most likely a racist because only that kind of people are that triggered over people having a different skin tone.

They literally did this campaign to highlight how hysterical and paranoid much of the progressive left in the media has become, and started drinking milk and taking pictures with it and nazi flags and such.

Yes, the media fell for it and started screeching about milk being a nazi thing. I suspect that was a bridge too far for progressives who aren't unhinged enough to be professional journalists, so they just pretend that never happened.

http://theconversation.com/milk-a-symbo ... hate-83292

Example.

Milk as a symbol of white supremacy has also entered the Twitterverse. In early 2017, it replaced Pepe the Frog as the newest emoji symbolizing white superiority.

[Proctopeo]

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

[Petrasylvania]

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

"Anti-racist = Anti-white" doesn't imply mere bias.

[Ostroeuropa]

Plenty of the civil rights movement, indian independence movement etc, were communists.

It doesn't make their reasonable pronouncements a soviet plot.

MLKs speeches shouldn't be written off as part of his plot to bring us closer to communism, even though he certainly thought it was a step along the way.

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

It isn't false. There are instances where being white puts you at an institutional disadvantage, as well as makes you subject to stereotypes and discrimination.
They may not be as frequent, but they are there.

In addition, you're mischaracterizing the campaign.
While the founders may have began it with "White people are actually the ones oppressed" being the goal, the centrists who accept the campaign are only going to go in for "White people are also oppressed." which is fundamentally true.

[Kibbutz Unions]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

Meanings inferred through intent and the people saying it are, by nature, subjective, and more importantly than that, are more subjective than meanings created through other meanings and the rules of language.

What the **** is this pseudo-intellectual rambling? Literally, the whole point of this campaign is to troll the left. They don't hide it. They wish to present themselves as some sort of a marginalized group to radicalize politically-fragile centrist white people.

[Ostroeuropa]

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

"Anti-racist = Anti-white" doesn't imply mere bias.

It's accurate in many cases, unless you accept that the progressives class conflict based narrative on oppression is wrong, unhelpful, and itself racist, and prefer a class collaboration conception of racism where all classes suffer from different aspects of it, and should collaborate to end it.

Marx and his bullshit utterly toxified left wing politics.

To the progressive, there can be no concession that men and whites are also oppressed, because their notion of oppression is class conflict based.
This means progressive anti-racism is in fact anti-white, just as their anti-sexism is anti-male.

An inclusive view on racism/sexism would acknowledge all of societies members as playing a part and suffering from this system we enforce on eachother, and advocate for liberation of all persons.

[Proctopeo]

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

"Anti-racist = Anti-white" doesn't imply mere bias.

The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer.

really actives the almonds

Meanings inferred through intent and the people saying it are, by nature, subjective, and more importantly than that, are more subjective than meanings created through other meanings and the rules of language.

What the **** is this pseudo-intellectual rambling? Literally, the whole point of this campaign is to troll the left. They don't hide it. They wish to present themselves as some sort of a marginalized group to radicalize politically-fragile centrist white people.

To put it in simpler terms - even though it was already very simple - is that the meaning behind the phrase "it's okay to be white" has a meaning based out of definition and language, and meanings formed out of context. The contextual meanings are less objective than the definition-based meanings. The "troll the left" part is, sure, part of it, but your latter part is an opinion.
You may perceive it in that way, but it's not inherently correct.
this is returning to tinfoil territory I stg

[Kibbutz Unions]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

No it doesn't. If neo-nazis say that "it's okay to drink milk", should I oppose them just for the sake of opposing them as if I was a toddler in his "No" phase?
If you have a problem with people saying such an innocuous thing as "it's okay to be white", you're most likely a racist because only that kind of people are that triggered over people having a different skin tone.

This is fallacy by irrelevancy. This was an organized campaign that is meant to further white-supremacism. If it was a group of milk-enthusiasts and that it included a bunch of neo-nazis promoting their milk products it would have been one thing, but this is clearly different.

By the way, pretending to be ignorant of something and presenting it as an argument- not very constructive.

[Petrasylvania]

"Anti-racist = Anti-white" doesn't imply mere bias.

The goal is to expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer.

really actives the almonds

So a mindless meme for a reply.

[Proctopeo]

really actives the almonds

So a nonsensical meme for a reply.

Would you like to borrow my glasses

[Kibbutz Unions]

Stop pretending as if the intent (Which wasn't really hidden) and the people behind those words don't matter.

I'm really questioning your logic. This troll group attempt was to point out the reaction of the left. If you truly think that this is racist then you fell for their trap. They're just a bunch of trolls, no hidden intent other then the intent to see your reaction. In reality this is not a racist attack, but a troll attack which (like they intended you to do) reacted assuming racism because anything that has the word "white" in it is clearly "racist"

The political sphere doesn't work that way. It isn't about "traps" and "falling into traps" but about consciousness, if you raise consciousness of those tactics and what they are trying to achieve- you win. If they manage to mislead people, then their propaganda worked.

[Aellex]

This is fallacy by irrelevancy. This was an organized campaign that is meant to further white-supremacism. If it was a group of milk-enthusiasts and that it included a bunch of neo-nazis promoting their milk products it would have been one thing, but this is clearly different.

By the way, pretending to be ignorant of something and presenting it as an argument- not very constructive.

It's people saying it's OK to be white. If you think it isn't OK to be white, sorry to break it to you but you're racist.

[Ostroeuropa]

No it doesn't. If neo-nazis say that "it's okay to drink milk", should I oppose them just for the sake of opposing them as if I was a toddler in his "No" phase?
If you have a problem with people saying such an innocuous thing as "it's okay to be white", you're most likely a racist because only that kind of people are that triggered over people having a different skin tone.

This is fallacy by irrelevancy. This was an organized campaign that is meant to further white-supremacism. If it was a group of milk-enthusiasts and that it included a bunch of neo-nazis promoting their milk products it would have been one thing, but this is clearly different.

By the way, pretending to be ignorant of something and presenting it as an argument- not very constructive.

It only furthers white nationalism by outing many people in positions of power as anti-white.

In much the same as an IRA man publicly saying "Being a catholic is okay." and knowing the Protestant authorities will flip out and crack down is a "campaign" to provoke Irish rebellion.

YOU are a part of that dynamic by dismissing it out of hand and screaming "DAS RACIS!"

The way to de-escalate the conflict is to be moderate between the two. In order to do that, you have to acknowledge there are two racist sides here, something the progressive side refuses to admit about itself.

THAT is what fuels white nationalism.

The progressive narrative while it has been pushed has seen escalating levels of hate crime, violence, and far-right sentiment, KKK membership has grown, etc.

At what point will they accept they are wrong and their methods don't work?

[Petrasylvania]

So a nonsensical meme for a reply.

Would you like to borrow my glasses

No thanks, if I want to watch 3D movies I can go see IMAX.

[Kibbutz Unions]

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

Oh come on, we all know those people either pretend to think or really think that whites are being persecuted, and that this campaign is clearly based in this sentiment (As if implying that the wide public doesn't think that it's ok to be white).

[Ostroeuropa]

TIL that claiming anti-white bias == claiming white people are the people actually oppressed

Oh come on, we all know those people either pretend to think or really think that whites are being persecuted, and that this campaign is clearly based in this sentiment (As if implying that the wide public doesn't think that it's ok to be white).

The public is irrelevant to oppression compared to institutions, including the media.
And the media regularly pushes anti-white narratives.

So does much of Academia.

"Oh come on, most of India doesn't support British supremacy."

yeh but a few thousand very important british people do.

[Kibbutz Unions]

Many of their members were socialists and communists- but their civil-rights movements weren't about that but rather about social emancipation and independence.

In this case, the whole point is to provoke and lure in centrists to believe a false reality in which "white people are the ones actually oppressed" for the possible benefit of White Supremacist movements.

It isn't false. There are instances where being white puts you at an institutional disadvantage, as well as makes you subject to stereotypes and discrimination.
They may not be as frequent, but they are there.

In addition, you're mischaracterizing the campaign.
While the founders may have began it with "White people are actually the ones oppressed" being the goal, the centrists who accept the campaign are only going to go in for "White people are also oppressed." which is fundamentally true.

Many white people are oppressed, but not based on their whiteness which is what it tries to imply.
White people of working class are oppressed based on their class for example.

[Ostroeuropa]

It isn't false. There are instances where being white puts you at an institutional disadvantage, as well as makes you subject to stereotypes and discrimination.
They may not be as frequent, but they are there.

In addition, you're mischaracterizing the campaign.
While the founders may have began it with "White people are actually the ones oppressed" being the goal, the centrists who accept the campaign are only going to go in for "White people are also oppressed." which is fundamentally true.

Many white people are oppressed, but not based on their whiteness which is what it tries to imply.
White people of working class are oppressed based on their class for example.

In some cases it is based on their race.
Are you alleging there are no stereotypes about white people?

In addition, progressives offering extra education assistance to minorities but not white people means the white working class lose out because there isn't as much class based extra education assistance. So your "But class" thing matters precisely nothing. It remains a fact many whites if they were born a different color would have had, in some areas, better opportunities. That is racism. Yes, the same is also true in reverse.

This is one example of progressivism leading to anti-white consequences. There are others.