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Is it though?

It's okay to be white, the campaign is good.
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It's okay to be white, the campaign is bad. (Explain below.)
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It's not okay to be white.
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Total votes : 811

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Martian Communities
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Postby Martian Communities » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:26 am

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2017/11/okay_to_be_white_signs_popping.html
^ Link




Context: These signs were being put up in a town called Grand Haven. Most of it seems to be about the reactions to the signs, some of which are placed below. I'm not sure of the news article's bias, so take this with a grain of salt.

*I recommend that you read it yourself before forming an opinion




Quotes from article:

[Someone] said he was dismayed by their message.

"I guess a lot of people would be okay with it. To me, it just reinforces the image of Grand Haven as [an] all-white exclusive city."

^ From a resident of the city

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"While we are sworn to protect everyone's right to free speech, we won't ever support speech that attempts to divide us or that promotes racism."

"Everyone is welcome in Grand Haven and there's no room for hatred."


^ From a press conference



Related story:

East Grand Rapids mayor responds to white supremacy fliers placed around city
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Hakons
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Postby Hakons » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:27 am

It is, in fact, okay to be white. How scandalous?
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Postby Summertimequestionswine » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:35 am

A campaign began to demonstrate the extent of anti-white racism in the US


In the United States, it is known that everyone has the right to victimhood, especially white people.

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:43 am

Summertimequestionswine wrote:
A campaign began to demonstrate the extent of anti-white racism in the US


In the United States, it is known that everyone has the right to victimhood, especially white people.


If there wasn't a problem then we wouldn't be hearing anything about this campaign right now.
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Postby Summertimequestionswine » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:51 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Summertimequestionswine wrote:
In the United States, it is known that everyone has the right to victimhood, especially white people.


If there wasn't a problem


If ifs and buts were candies and nuts then every day would be Erntedankfest.

then we wouldn't be hearing anything about this campaign right now.


I mean...you're aware people manufacture outrage about things all the time right?

Like, make believe is a thing boss. Fictional accounts, fake news, big foot, Skeletor, the 1985 world series...

All fabricated.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:52 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nyara wrote:The fact that this thread has gone on so long proves the point of the experiment. Even saying "it's okay to be white" can be disagreed with? Pathetic.


So who's disagreeing with the statement,

The ten or so who voted that it's not okay to be white probably disagree.
and who's questioning the motives of the people pushing it?

Any one with a working mind should be able to see that this is a pretty loaded statement and should question the intentions of the people putting it up.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:54 am

Summertimequestionswine wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
If there wasn't a problem


If ifs and buts were candies and nuts then every day would be Erntedankfest.

then we wouldn't be hearing anything about this campaign right now.


I mean...you're aware people manufacture outrage about things all the time right?

Like, make believe is a thing boss. Fictional accounts, fake news, big foot, Skeletor, the 1985 world series...

All fabricated.


That doesn't even work in this situation.

This 'outrage' seems pretty in line with everything else the left is saying.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:56 am

Sovaal wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So who's disagreeing with the statement,

The ten or so who voted that it's not okay to be white probably disagree.
and who's questioning the motives of the people pushing it?

Any one with a working mind should be able to see that this is a pretty loaded statement and should question the intentions of the people putting it up.

Again, to be fair, you could put up a poll asking if the answer to 2+2 = ? is 3, 4 or 5 and you'd still only get about 90% of people say 4.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:59 am

Alvecia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:The ten or so who voted that it's not okay to be white probably disagree.

Any one with a working mind should be able to see that this is a pretty loaded statement and should question the intentions of the people putting it up.

Again, to be fair, you could put up a poll asking if the answer to 2+2 = ? is 3, 4 or 5 and you'd still only get about 90% of people say 4.


You'd get less than that because of the 1984 meme. The opportunity to reference a meme activates a primal part of the brain that renders people incapable of intelligent thought for a few moments. You know it's true

Any story involving a pig will have the top comment be that'll do pig, that'll do.
Any 2+2 = question will have 5 somewhere and a bunch of quotes.
Etc.
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Postby Summertimequestionswine » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:59 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Summertimequestionswine wrote:
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts then every day would be Erntedankfest.



I mean...you're aware people manufacture outrage about things all the time right?

Like, make believe is a thing boss. Fictional accounts, fake news, big foot, Skeletor, the 1985 world series...

All fabricated.


That doesn't even work in this situation.


It works because I said it works baby.

This 'outrage' seems pretty in line with everything else the left is saying.


Okay, look, whatever. You're trying to have a 'serious' conversation about how 'the left' is out to get whitey.

Me? I made a throwaway and am going to do so again.

The only right anyone has in America is to be a victim. Especially white people. :bow:

Alright, now get out of here, you little rapscallion, you should be in school.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:59 am

Alvecia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:The ten or so who voted that it's not okay to be white probably disagree.

Any one with a working mind should be able to see that this is a pretty loaded statement and should question the intentions of the people putting it up.

Again, to be fair, you could put up a poll asking if the answer to 2+2 = ? is 3, 4 or 5 and you'd still only get about 90% of people say 4.

"That's just like your opinion bro."

"That 2+2 equals 4?"

"Alternative facts man!"
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:01 am

Sovaal wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Again, to be fair, you could put up a poll asking if the answer to 2+2 = ? is 3, 4 or 5 and you'd still only get about 90% of people say 4.

"That's just like your opinion bro."

"That 2+2 equals 4?"

"Alternative facts man!"

Hey, they might not be necessarily sincere in their answer

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:03 am

Alvecia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:"That's just like your opinion bro."

"That 2+2 equals 4?"

"Alternative facts man!"

Hey, they might not be necessarily sincere in their answer

Not all, definitely, but I would be surprised if there isn't at least one person on here who holds that view.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:04 am

Sovaal wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Hey, they might not be necessarily sincere in their answer

Not all, definitely, but I would be surprised if there isn't at least one person on here who holds that view.

Statistically, someone has to

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:05 am

Alvecia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Not all, definitely, but I would be surprised if there isn't at least one person on here who holds that view.

Statistically, someone has to

A statistical minority of a statistical minority.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Zhopgrad » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:11 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Zhopgrad wrote:To be honest, this campaign is an OK idea


An ok idea? I'm glad you didn't say 'superior' idea or that you have pride in that idea ;)

That was somewhat taken out of context... But OK?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:20 am

So, a politically correct way of saying "White Power"?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:21 am

Petrasylvania wrote:So, a politically correct way of saying "White Power"?

Far from it
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:24 am

The best type of campaign would be a "All lives matter regardless of skin colour" campaign rather than "White lives matter", which could just incite more anti-black racism

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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:26 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So, a politically correct way of saying "White Power"?

Far from it

That's the impression for many, regardless of intent. Hence the "outrage".

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Postby The Krogan » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:28 am

Had posters like these show up on my campus, people tore them down, and that was that.

Don't see the need for it, especially where I live in Atlantic Canada.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:34 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The best type of campaign would be a "All lives matter regardless of skin colour" campaign rather than "White lives matter", which could just incite more anti-black racism

Didn't work before.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:38 am

Yes. It is ok to be white. Like it's ok to be Black, Asian, or any race.

The color of your parents skins does not matter at all. Your skin color doesn't matter all.

All races matter. All races are equal.


There is no 'anti-white bias' in the media. Using the word 'shill' activates something in my brain that makes me just skim over the rest of the words.

9/10 times, it's used by the Anti- SJW people who I find more annoying then actual SJWs.

"We are giving the left all the rope they want and they are racing to hang themselves"

This is perhaps the most eye rolling-est part of the whole thing.

In concision, these are just Anti-SJW posters that make me want to post my own poster beneath them going:

No shit Sherlock, of course it's ok to be white. It's ok to be any race.

Stop fighting the SJW boogie man and stop thinking that the SJW's speak for all of everyone on the left.


*Disclaimer, yes I know I used to support BLM , however I supported them beacuse in some cases there was clearly racism in the police forces that where shooting unarmed people.

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:41 am

Sovaal wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The best type of campaign would be a "All lives matter regardless of skin colour" campaign rather than "White lives matter", which could just incite more anti-black racism

Didn't work before.

How come?

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Postby Dredge » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:44 am

“Are you insinuating that people of color are saying it’s bad to be white?” asked Ales Lee, of the UC Davis Black Leadership Council.
Yes. The same way Black Lives Matter is insinuating others don't believe a black life matters.

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