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Is it though?

It's okay to be white, the campaign is good.
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It's okay to be white, the campaign is bad. (Explain below.)
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It's not okay to be white.
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Total votes : 811

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Trumpisslavia
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Minoa wrote:The campaign itself, is pretty much an attempt to intimidate opponents, just like cyberbullying.


Seeing a leaflet saying that it's okay to be white is scarier than a dozen dancing skeletons and white-sheet ghosts dancing through your kitchen to Justin Bieber records played backwards in G Major.


What is "scary" -- OK, I can't really take this too seriously -- is not so much the explicit phrase as it is the implied meaning. No one (I trust) will object to being an expert on skin care; everyone (I trust) will object to acting like it's a standard to bash others over.
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Long live the United States
however short its life will be.

Call this nation the "United States". Not "America". not "Trumpisslavia". Just "United States".

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Tesernia
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Postby Tesernia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 am

Trumpisslavia wrote:It's OK to be whatever color you want your skin to be (yes, Rachel Dolezal, I don't like you or hate you, I just don't really care). At the same time, it needs to be noted that the leading figures in this campaign are bigots -- to put it simply, they extol the supposed virtues of their skin color while denigrating those of every other.

I've yet to see an actual leading figure behind anything /pol/ does. Someone just makes a suggestion, makes a reasonable prognosis on how people might react based on the witnessed low points of journalism of the past year (two scoops of ice cream!!) and, when it sounds plausible enough, people who just want to see the fireworks tag along with the suggestion.

Unless of course I've missed the day on which /pol/ appointed a Shitpost-Reichsführer.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:11 am

Herador wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Seeing a leaflet saying that it's okay to be white is scarier than a dozen dancing skeletons and white-sheet ghosts dancing through your kitchen to Justin Bieber records played backwards in G Major.

And that's why it's a losing battle.


Prepare to be biffed mightily upon the bonce by my spook-imbued white magic mace.
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Postby Herador » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:11 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Herador wrote:And that's why it's a losing battle.


Prepare to be biffed mightily upon the bonce by my spook-imbued white magic mace.

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Trumpisslavia
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:13 am

Tesernia wrote:
Trumpisslavia wrote:It's OK to be whatever color you want your skin to be (yes, Rachel Dolezal, I don't like you or hate you, I just don't really care). At the same time, it needs to be noted that the leading figures in this campaign are bigots -- to put it simply, they extol the supposed virtues of their skin color while denigrating those of every other.

I've yet to see an actual leading figure behind anything /pol/ does. Someone just makes a suggestion, makes a reasonable prognosis on how people might react based on the witnessed low points of journalism of the past year (two scoops of ice cream!!) and, when it sounds plausible enough, people who just want to see the fireworks tag along with the suggestion.

Unless of course I've missed the day on which /pol/ appointed a Shitpost-Reichsführer.


I have a Twitter account, but not one with /pol/. Was that a mistake?
Donald D. Dwarf. Roy Joseph Moore. Miller Dwarf.
Maggie Simpson.
All dead.
Long live the United States
however short its life will be.

Call this nation the "United States". Not "America". not "Trumpisslavia". Just "United States".

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Alvecia
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:13 am

Tesernia wrote:
Trumpisslavia wrote:It's OK to be whatever color you want your skin to be (yes, Rachel Dolezal, I don't like you or hate you, I just don't really care). At the same time, it needs to be noted that the leading figures in this campaign are bigots -- to put it simply, they extol the supposed virtues of their skin color while denigrating those of every other.

I've yet to see an actual leading figure behind anything /pol/ does. Someone just makes a suggestion, makes a reasonable prognosis on how people might react based on the witnessed low points of journalism of the past year (two scoops of ice cream!!) and, when it sounds plausible enough, people who just want to see the fireworks tag along with the suggestion.

Unless of course I've missed the day on which /pol/ appointed a Shitpost-Reichsführer.

Did anyone ever actually read that original two scoops article? It was huge, and touched on so many points, the two scoops were 40 words in 4000.

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Postby Uiiop » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:15 am

Tesernia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Why are you calling a complete innocuous news-report as very extreme?
It just said that a post about it lead to death threats and quoted some people. Hardly extreme at all.

Have you paid any attention at all to the lead-up to the news report?

That's what I find to be insane. I could understand it if they'd led the report with the death threats, and then made a connection to the poster campaign; but they highlighted the statement as racist first of all, making the actual disturbing part (You know, the death and rape threats that are alleged?) secondary at best.

The priorities are completely backwards, I'd dare to say.

Minoa wrote:The campaign itself, is pretty much an attempt to intimidate opponents, just like cyberbullying.

Yes, we're quite aware that you feel threatened by literally anything, including a statement that has only as much of a deep meaning as you're willing to give it.

The video doesn't say whether or not it's racist. The screen puts a question mark on it because some people thinks it's racist. The positioning = Highlight(They could like to tell things in chronological order as a lead off) and the meaning of the term linked are all stuff you read into it. No matter who the hell the news stations is the video in itself doesn't imply.

The million dollar question is what makes your context better to disrupt the "text"(Forgive for post-mo phrasing but one of the others defender invoked all but in name the Death of the author so...) than the others?
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Trumpisslavia
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:15 am

Alvecia wrote:Did anyone ever actually read that original two scoops article? It was huge, and touched on so many points, the two scoops were 40 words in 4000.


No. Should I? I mean, I just read that officially I now have high blood pressure, and --
Donald D. Dwarf. Roy Joseph Moore. Miller Dwarf.
Maggie Simpson.
All dead.
Long live the United States
however short its life will be.

Call this nation the "United States". Not "America". not "Trumpisslavia". Just "United States".

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Alvecia
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:20 am

Trumpisslavia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Did anyone ever actually read that original two scoops article? It was huge, and touched on so many points, the two scoops were 40 words in 4000.


No. Should I? I mean, I just read that officially I now have high blood pressure, and --

You can if you want. It's basically just an inside look at the goings on in Trumps White House

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Postby Hirota » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:22 am

It's okay to be human.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:22 am

Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

You saying it's not okay to be inhuman?

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Herador
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Postby Herador » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:22 am

Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

No it isn't, we suck as a species. I'd wager we only beat out mosquitoes on the power rankings.

Alvecia wrote:
Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

You saying it's not okay to be inhuman?

Werewolf Rights Now you fuckin' facists
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:23 am

Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

IM ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:23 am

Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.


Fucking specist.
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Postby Herador » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:23 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

IM ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL

I don't care about the game, that was a good song.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:24 am

Herador wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:IM ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL

I don't care about the game, that was a good song.

It actually grew on me a lot, probably due to that game.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:25 am

Alvecia wrote:
Hirota wrote:It's okay to be human.

You saying it's not okay to be inhuman?
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:25 am

You guys can talk for pages and pages about literally anything, I love it. :)

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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:29 am

Hirota wrote:It's okay to be a dog.

Fixed. Doggos or gtfo.

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:31 am

Dogs Are People Too

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Postby Herador » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:32 am

Albrenia wrote:You guys can talk for pages and pages about literally anything, I love it. :)

Love you too bb

The Huskar Social Union wrote:It actually grew on me a lot, probably due to that game.

We could have had something great, shame people bailed on it because of a rocky start.
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Postby Kita-Hinode » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:33 am

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:33 am

Albrenia wrote:You guys can talk for pages and pages about literally anything, I love it. :)


We truly are the worst.
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Postby Herador » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:34 am

Kita-Hinode wrote:It's cool to be a cat.

Image


Washington Resistance Army wrote:We truly are the worst.

This website is just a race to find out who sucks the most.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:34 am

Albrenia wrote:Dogs Are People Too

If they were, that means dogs can suck. Dogs cannot, in fact, suck. That is scientific fact.

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