Australian Parliment Citizenship Crisis

[Toronina]

OP is kinda hard to read

Sorry about it, I did the best I could. Its a clusterfuck situation and its been a long time since I was the OP of a post.

Resigning their foreign citizenship is really an obligation under the current rules.

Weren't they the first one to have some resign over it before the other parties?
Or did I read the OP wrong?

I think you're just getting confused. The Foxes was talking about all of them, not just the Greens.

[Luziyca]

I respect the Greens and some of the others, at least, for stepping down when it was discovered. They should probably change the dual-citizenship rule for the future, but it was the law at the time, and you can't pick and choose which laws to follow.

It's a disgrace, but a kind of funny one, in its own way.

Agreed.

I also think the OP might need be a titch clearer.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

What did they do wrong?

Resigning their foreign citizenship is really an obligation under the current rules.

Stupid rules at that.

[Albrenia]

Are the Greens even asking for the monarchy to step in? I haven't heard about that.

Personally I like the Greens. They have a few unfortunate SJW qualities, but they actually stand up for their principles, for the most part. Eco Terrorist is a silly way to describe them, unless you consider solar panels an act of terror.

Also, I wouldn't go so far as charging any of them with fraud, unless they somehow got money from their other citizenship. In that case - have at 'em.

[Bakery Hill]

Resigning their foreign citizenship is really an obligation under the current rules.

Stupid rules at that.

But those are the rules.

[Dazchan]

Are the Greens even asking for the monarchy to step in? I haven't heard about that.

Personally I like the Greens. They have a few unfortunate SJW qualities, but they actually stand up for their principles, for the most part. Eco Terrorist is a silly way to describe them, unless you consider solar panels an act of terror.

Once Hansen-Young gets fed up and leaves the Greens to start her own SJW party, the Greens will be a lot more palatable. And I say that as a Greens voter.

Also, I wouldn't go so far as charging any of them with fraud, unless they somehow got money from their other citizenship. In that case - have at 'em.

Charging them with fraud would be problematic, although I know a few people who feel they should be forced to repay the salary/benefits they've enjoyed while being illegally elected. Personally, I think we should just be thankful that they're gone, enjoy the shenanigans of the Liberals trying to maintain a minority government, and move on.

[Bakery Hill]

Are the Greens even asking for the monarchy to step in? I haven't heard about that.

Personally I like the Greens. They have a few unfortunate SJW qualities, but they actually stand up for their principles, for the most part. Eco Terrorist is a silly way to describe them, unless you consider solar panels an act of terror.

Once Hansen-Young gets fed up and leaves the Greens to start her own SJW party, the Greens will be a lot more palatable. And I say that as a Greens voter.

Why so?

[Albrenia]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

[Donut section]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

You missed the opportunity to use Elecotorally head butted.

Such a shame.

[Albrenia]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

You missed the opportunity to use Elecotorally head butted.

Such a shame.

Darn.

[Toronina]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

You missed the opportunity to use Elecotorally shirt fronted.

Such a shame.

Fixed thst for you. What a time to be alive, back then. The man really didn't know when to shut up.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

Ahhh... Tony, what a legend, amirite?

[Toronina]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

Ahhh... Tony, what a legend, amirite?

Good ol Tony "I'm going to shirtfront Putin" Abbott

[Albrenia]

I hope Abbott sweeps in like a saviour in their darkest hour, and then gets totally destroyed in the next election.

A man can dream.

Ahhh... Tony, what a legend, amirite?

I still can't believe he ate that.

[Donut section]

You missed the opportunity to use Elecotorally shirt fronted.

Such a shame.

Fixed thst for you. What a time to be alive, back then. The man really didn't know when to shut up.

Oh boy!

[Toronina]

Ahhh... Tony, what a legend, amirite?

I still can't believe he ate that.

Truly the suppository of all wisdom. Is there any news regarding his citizenship? Last I heard some doubts were being raised over his documents but thats it

[Albrenia]

I still can't believe he ate that.

Truly the suppository of all wisdom. Is there any news regarding his citizenship? Last I heard some doubts were being raised over his documents but thats it

I doubt any country would want to claim him. I've heard claims he's either British or US dual citizen, but nothing proven as far as I know.

[Scomagia]

I'm a little appalled that no one noticed sooner but I do applaud those that stepped down.

Too bad what they get done is usually not that nice to live through...

It's not like the politicians care about stoping chinese spys and investment.

Why would they want to stop Chinese investment?

[Minoa]

From a country that allows Commonwealth and Irish nationals to stand for office as well, it doesn't make sense in my opinion to ban someone who has also has the citizenship of a non-hostile country like France, New Zealand or Switzerland.

[Bakery Hill]

From a country that allows Commonwealth and Irish nationals to stand for office as well, it doesn't make sense in my opinion to ban someone who has also has the citizenship of a non-hostile country like France, New Zealand or Switzerland.

It was written out in 1901 and everyone forgot about it.

[Cedoria]

As the author of the thread we had on this several months ago, I was wondering whether we needed another one:)

All the same, I'm as disgusted with Turnbull's inaction as the OP, but the GG dissolving Parliament is a bad thing to do (I'm a Republican, can't endorse that).

Best thing to do is hope either Joyce or Alexander loses their by-election (not likely in the case of the former). In any event, they may need an election soon, a local primary school in my area was asked if it would be available to have ballots put there any time soon. Our MPs citizenship is not in question, so it must have been referring to a federal election.

The AEC is prepared for it, at any rate. But my criticisms of the structure of our constitution in my Law classes have been vindicated in recent weeks, which I have not hesitated to remind my colleagues of:)

It's absurdly, grotesquely stupid, but still funny for all that.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Why would they want to stop Chinese investment?

Fears about increasing Chinese influence I suppose.

[The Foxes Swamp]

they should all be sacked and charged with fraud.

What did they do wrong?

they broke the rules, if i break a rule and i say sorry didnt know that was a rule they would still be charging me because the onus is on me to know the rules.

[Bakery Hill]

As the author of the thread we had on this several months ago, I was wondering whether we needed another one:)

All the same, I'm as disgusted with Turnbull's inaction as the OP, but the GG dissolving Parliament is a bad thing to do (I'm a Republican, can't endorse that).

Best thing to do is hope either Joyce or Alexander loses their by-election (not likely in the case of the former). In any event, they may need an election soon, a local primary school in my area was asked if it would be available to have ballots put there any time soon. Our MPs citizenship is not in question, so it must have been referring to a federal election.

The AEC is prepared for it, at any rate. But my criticisms of the structure of our constitution in my Law classes have been vindicated in recent weeks, which I have not hesitated to remind my colleagues of:)

It's absurdly, grotesquely stupid, but still funny for all that.

Alexander might lose the by election. He probably will. But when neither Windsor nor the Fishers and Shooters chose to run in New England, Barnaby's return became a shoe in.

But if Alexander loses, you've got 75 from the Coalition, 70 from Labor plus the five crossbenchers. From what I know in the event of a tie during a no confidence motion, the speaker can step in to break it. And that's without Sharkie and McGowan on the crossbench who still standby the government as per their agreement.

So unless a couple more lib parliamentarians get disqualified, we can't expect an election without the GG using his powers.

[Minzerland II]

I like Section 44, so I won't be complaining about it. As for your suggestion, OP, I wholly agree that an audit of Parliament is necessary.

From a country that allows Commonwealth and Irish nationals to stand for office as well, it doesn't make sense in my opinion to ban someone who has also has the citizenship of a non-hostile country like France, New Zealand or Switzerland.

Being the citizen of a non-hostile country is no different to being a citizen of a hostile country. What would we do if a non-hostile country suddenly became hostile?

I could make an exception for people who were given a citizenship because their mother or father were born somewhere foreign without their knowledge, like Joyce, but I would expect them to renounce their foreign citizenship as soon as possible.