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Attlebern
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Postby Attlebern » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:44 pm

Système international (d'unités) is better

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:46 pm

Attlebern wrote:Système international (d'unités) is better

Do you use tablespoons and cups? How about lbs?
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Postby Kanadorika » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:49 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:I think I made my point. Those countries that value science and logic over tradition and fanaticism have less death overall. Because Europe and Canada and all the other democracies in the world are science oriented they can say "We just had a massive shooting incident lets figure out how to stop it from happening again and lower the number of those shot to keep our citizens more safe. We must restrict access for most people to getting even the simplist guns because less guns less murder" Since we are tradition and fanaticism based we say "Guns are a way of life! america was built on guns! we must protect gun rights at all costs"

We use Imperial, have our presidents on money, and worship symbols (the tails on every coin ever) and so we have so much more death and crime. Europe uses metric, has scientists and great thinkers on their money and worship successful people, and so they have less death and crime.

The United States has more Nobel Prizes than any other nation, publishes more peer reviewed studies, spends the most on technological research, and files the most patents per year out of any other country.

Furthermore, the Industrial revolution began in a nation using the imperial system.

But clearly the imperial system is incompatible with science and technology so.....
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Postby Tear Drop Blue Suede Light Purple V » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:49 pm

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Postby Freed Lymonia » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:50 pm

Hey, who was the one that kicked you guys back to your crappy continent, who was the one that saved yourselves from total annihilation multiple times, which nation is not killing itself by being practically the only choices being SJWs or a police state, etc etc etc.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:56 pm

Freed Lymonia wrote:Hey, who was the one that kicked you guys back to your crappy continent,
No one since the colonists where after all originally from that Continent.
who was the one that saved yourselves from total annihilation multiple times,
After sitting on the sideline for so long.
which nation is not killing itself by being practically the only choices being SJWs or a police state, etc etc etc.
Most of the countries in Europe are not killing themselves with those being the only choices,besides, all we have to do is look at how Trump acts here in the US and you get an issue.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:06 am

This response about the difference between British screw threads and metric ones , in Yahoo answers, sums up the controversy pretty well, I think.

Simple uniformity is better.

" Whitworth threads are measured in Imperial diameters, with a thread angle of 55 degrees. The thread form is radiused at both the crest and root of the thread. The number of threads for a given screw diameter is given in threads per inch, e.g. 1/4" dia. has 20 threads ber inch.
Whitworth is a fixed standard. If a fine thread is desired, BSF is the fine thread standard.

Metric standard threads have diameters measured in millimetres. They have a thread angle of 60 degrees, and the crest and root of the thread is flat. Each diameter may be given 2 alternative thread pitches, depending on requirement for fine or coarse pitch. There may also be other decimal pitches if a thread is not even millimetres dia., e.g. 3.5mm. The actual thread pitch (distance from 1 crest to the next) is what is specified.
The British "equivalent" to Metric threads was the BA (British Association) thread. They are not actually metric, but come close.
In the British system, there are also many "specialised" thread standards, e.g. BSC (British Standard Cycle), use for bicycle threads.
Most have been abandoned in this modern world. Too many standards. It's been much simpler to use ISO metric threads universally."
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:55 am

Freed Lymonia wrote:Hey, who was the one that kicked you guys back to your crappy continent, who was the one that saved yourselves from total annihilation multiple times, which nation is not killing itself by being practically the only choices being SJWs or a police state, etc etc etc.


The British Empire used the Imperial System at the time of said kicking. My opinions on the US ignoring the Nazis for so long will remain my own, and the US political system is most definitely NOT an example of reasonable choices at this time.

So yeah. Good try.

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Postby Bardarus » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:48 am

Metric.

Only the United States of America and Myanmar use the Imperial system of measurment.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:50 am

Keldros wrote:
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There are two kinds of nations in the world: those that use the metric system, and those that put a man on the moon.


Well, ignoring the fact that NASA uses metric.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:04 am

Bardarus wrote:Metric.

Only the United States of America and Myanmar use the Imperial system of measurment.

I am pretty sure other places use things like acres, tea and table spoons. When I was in GB I remember they used a mix of metric and imperial. I am pretty sure there are other countries that also mix it up as well. 2x4s still exist in Canada, and where do you think they come from?
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Postby Arotania » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:43 am

Bardarus wrote:Metric.

Only the United States of America and Myanmar use the Imperial system of measurment.


Neither of them uses the Imperial system.
US use the US customary system, Myanmar uses their own system.

Neutraligon wrote:I am pretty sure other places use things like acres, tea and table spoons. When I was in GB I remember they used a mix of metric and imperial. I am pretty sure there are other countries that also mix it up as well. 2x4s still exist in Canada, and where do you think they come from?


Which tablespoon are you referring to? US (~14.8 ml), UK (15 ml) or Australian (20 ml)?
That's the problem with the Imperial system and its offshots like the US customary system. Basically every unit has several definitions based on place and time. The Imperial gallon is divided up into 160 imperial fluid ounces. The US gallon is divided up into 128 US fluid ounces. Of course there is also the US dry gallon which is different from both. Imperial and US fluid ounces aren't identical either.
The problem isn't as bad with measurements of length but it still exists. The US still has two differently defined feet in use. Using one standard system even across all 50 states would have been too easy and not intuitive enough, I guess?

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Postby The Transhuman Union » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:49 am

Vassenor wrote:
Keldros wrote:

There are two kinds of nations in the world: those that use the metric system, and those that put a man on the moon.


Well, ignoring the fact that NASA uses metric.


NASA used mostly imperial, if I am correct, when they first landed on the moon. Only some parts of calculations were metric.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:54 am

>not using the royal gur cube of Naram-Sin

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Postby Ivelboria » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:57 am

Metric definitely
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:01 am

Whichever people expect.

Imperial for TV sizes is as practical as metric for radial tire widths, which is as practical as metric for distances in France, which is as practical as imperial for distances in the US.

Why? Because people are used to having these systems in these cases.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:37 am

Pope Joan wrote:This response about the difference between British screw threads and metric ones , in Yahoo answers, sums up the controversy pretty well, I think.

Simple uniformity is better.

" Whitworth threads are measured in Imperial diameters, with a thread angle of 55 degrees. The thread form is radiused at both the crest and root of the thread. The number of threads for a given screw diameter is given in threads per inch, e.g. 1/4" dia. has 20 threads ber inch.
Whitworth is a fixed standard. If a fine thread is desired, BSF is the fine thread standard.

Metric standard threads have diameters measured in millimetres. They have a thread angle of 60 degrees, and the crest and root of the thread is flat. Each diameter may be given 2 alternative thread pitches, depending on requirement for fine or coarse pitch. There may also be other decimal pitches if a thread is not even millimetres dia., e.g. 3.5mm. The actual thread pitch (distance from 1 crest to the next) is what is specified.
The British "equivalent" to Metric threads was the BA (British Association) thread. They are not actually metric, but come close.
In the British system, there are also many "specialised" thread standards, e.g. BSC (British Standard Cycle), use for bicycle threads.
Most have been abandoned in this modern world. Too many standards. It's been much simpler to use ISO metric threads universally."
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Try maintaining bikes in the UK. You need three sets of tools: metric, imperial, and old British bike sizes (which aren't even numbers in either metric or imperial).

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Vassenor wrote:
Well, ignoring the fact that NASA uses metric.


NASA used mostly imperial, if I am correct, when they first landed on the moon. Only some parts of calculations were metric.


The actual maths was done in metric. The i/o for the astronauts was done in Imperial.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Auze » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:07 am

Why not both? They both have their own merits, so let's use a merged system that has both benefits and none of the problems.
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:48 am

Metric, as it's far easier to calculate with it. I mean, I don't know how the fuck I'm meant to do any sort of distance calculation in imperial when 1 mile = 1760 yds

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:32 am

I would say Metric. It’s much easier to use considering it itself is using a Base 10. A kilometre is 1000metres. A mile is 1609metres. That’s darn confusing.

Although as for the uses and the world, we should just stick to our own ways. It’d be harder to change to another units.

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:37 am

Vassenor wrote:
Keldros wrote:

There are two kinds of nations in the world: those that use the metric system, and those that put a man on the moon.


Well, ignoring the fact that NASA uses metric.


Well, anything in the US relating to international commerce or science will use metric units.

So, basically, the places where it, you know, matters.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:32 am

Auze wrote:Why not both? They both have their own merits, so let's use a merged system that has both benefits and none of the problems.


Except that one of the major issues of the Imperial system is that there are too many damned units already.
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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:36 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Auze wrote:Why not both? They both have their own merits, so let's use a merged system that has both benefits and none of the problems.


Except that one of the major issues of the Imperial system is that there are too many damned units already.

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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:52 am

Valrifell wrote:Uh, yes, considering there are infinitely many digits one can measure to.

No, you can't make a measurement to an infinite precision. That's because you can't go on writing digits forever.

But can we talk about how utterly useless a temperature scale based in water is for conveying weather?

Considering how weather is mostly about the interaction of water vapour, liquid water and solid water within the atmosphere, yes, it makes quite a lot of sense.

Then again, °C are a technical unit allowed in certain fields of application, but the temperature in SI is measured in K. So, the triple point of water is 273.15 K and its boiling point at 1 atm is 373.15 K .
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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:54 am

Vassenor wrote:
Keldros wrote:

There are two kinds of nations in the world: those that use the metric system, and those that put a man on the moon.


Well, ignoring the fact that NASA uses metric.

Ignoring also the fact that Liberia didn't put a man on the Moon, and neither did Burma.
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