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Right Wing Discussion Thread X: Pol's closed

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:27 pm
by Herskerstad

The Right Wing Discussion Thread
Part X
Pol's closed





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"Say what again. . " - Junes Winnfield


The dynastic cycle is unbreakable. Once more the Lord Protector has taken us through a journey, a thread of tears of sorts in search of utopia. While our Sherman's march might seem long and the walls we must climb seem ten feet higher, I have little doubt that in work and bantz we will find ultimate freedom. We have many followers in this band of brothers as we bring our thread of peace to all nations and peoples. In this most fruitful adventures of ours we ask that you all follow the health and safety instructions of this thread and bantz at your own discretion, and finally remember -

It's okay to be Right.

Welcome all to the Right-Wing Discussion Thread (RWDT), a place where we discuss all matters appertaining to the right wing-spirit. This is the tenth instalment of the thread making it NS's most beloved and controversial spots to engage in deep discussions that will no doubt bring fourth the fruits of wisdom and change your life. We ask the users to go by a dual-principle of being lenient towards the topic, but also understanding if things really get too off-topic and if necessary correct themselves.

Suggestions for improvements, changes, or additions is as always welcome.

Relevant subjects for discussion include:

  • The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the right.
  • Right-wing perspectives on economics and political economy.
  • News and history relevant to the political Right.
  • Right-wing responses to current events.
  • Right-wing perspectives on social and economic problems.
  • Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political Right.
  • The problems facing particular Right-wing movements or the political right in general, and how to resolve them.

Previous Iterations:
Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV
Part V
Part VI
Part VII
Part VIII
Part IX

Poll History:

Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism

Poll 1: Favorite Centre-Right Parties - Republican Party (US) 39%
Poll 2: What should be the most important core value of a state ideology? Liberty 47%

Poll 1: Which piece of literature has been most significant to the development of right-wing ideology? - Reflections on the Revolution in France 68/237 (29%)
Poll 2: Favourite constitutional/government models? - US 166/528 (31%)

Poll 1: If you could reverse the outcomes of one of these events, which one would it be? - The Russian Revolution 116/343 (34%)
Poll 2: If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be? - The Roman Empire 119/495 (24%)

Do you drink alcohol and what's your opinion of it?
No, and I have a negative opinion of it. It should remain legal. - 57 (36%)
Total Votes: 157 (Recorded 09/01/2017)

Poll 1: Which of the following Trump picks are you most happy with? And are you overall satisfied with them? - James Norman Mattis 92/384 Terrible picks, what have we gotten ourselves into. 97/384
Poll 2: Is Islam compatible with western civilisation? No - 102/330. If reformed yes - 102/330
Poll 3: Which side, for the sake of mankind, should have won WW1? The Allied Powers - 225/385
Poll 4: Was the Reformation a good thing? Yes - 146/287

Reading Suggestions:
If you’re looking to read something relevant to right-wing politics, consider reading some of the texts below. If you think something’s missing from this list, please post a recommendation. If you think something should be removed, please explain why.

  • ”Leviathan”
    — Thomas Hobbes. (Read Here)
  • ”Two Treatises of Government”
    — John Locke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.”
    — Max Weber.
  • ”Reflections on the Revolution in France”
    — Edmund Burke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Wealth Of Nations”
    — Adam Smith. (Read Here)
  • ”Essay on the Generative Principle of Political Constitutions and other Human Institutions”
    — Joseph de Maistre. (Read Here)
  • ”Rerum novarum”
    — Pope Leo XIII. (Read Here)
  • ”The Crisis of the Modern World”
    — Rene Guenon. (Read Here)
  • ”The Doctrine Of Fascism”
    — Benito Mussolini. (Read Here)
  • ”The Conservative Mind”
    — Russell Kirk.


If you’re interested in discussing matters relating to the political left, there’s also a Left-Wing Discussion Thread.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:28 pm
by The East Marches II
First post in a new thread. I for one am hyped for what the future holds for the right. I hope you boys are as well. Lets kick this off with a potential HAPPENING alert.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:29 pm
by Albrenia
Heh. I just watched a video about the whole Pool's Closed meme.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:30 pm
by FelrikTheDeleted
Yay, new thread.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:31 pm
by Herskerstad
Albrenia wrote:Heh. I just watched a video about the whole Pool's Closed meme.

Internet historian should be mandatory RWDT readings.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:37 pm
by Farnhamia
Jumped the gun by six pages. We'll just lock this up and wake it up when the other one gets to 500.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:04 pm
by War Gears
Everyone's favorite right-wing Buddhist here.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:05 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Sanctissima wrote:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
You're grasping at straws.

For one thing, militarism isn't just military expansion. It has an additional meaning which refers to reverence and favoritism of the military by the state, but hey, who cares about semantics right?

Militarism does not encourage nor enforce criminal acts of war. To suggest otherwise is pacifist propaganda.


I'm as much in favour of subjugating the tribals as the next man, but... come on now.

Call a spade a spade.

He is correct. Theodore Roosevelt was an ultra militarist, but he didn't promote war crimes.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:05 pm
by Albrenia
War Gears wrote:Everyone's favorite right-wing Buddhist here.


Do you get tired of 'One with everything' jokes?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:06 pm
by War Gears
Albrenia wrote:
War Gears wrote:Everyone's favorite right-wing Buddhist here.


Do you get tired of 'One with everything' jokes?


I don't think I've ever had one addressed to me, fortunately.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:06 pm
by The Founding Fatherland
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
I'm as much in favour of subjugating the tribals as the next man, but... come on now.

Call a spade a spade.

He is correct. Theodore Roosevelt was an ultra militarist, but he didn't promote war crimes.


I'm being defended by a pacifist?

I guess there's a first for everything...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:06 pm
by United Muscovite Nations
I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:07 pm
by War Gears
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.


I doubt next to anyone would know all that much about the Russian Civil War factions to vote.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:08 pm
by Sanctissima
To continue the last thread's discussion:

War Gears wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
I'm as much in favour of subjugating the tribals as the next man, but... come on now.

Call a spade a spade.


Ethiopia was a modernizing nation which was a member of the League of Nations, it's only crime was that it didn't bow down and worship the white Italian masters in the First Italo-Ethiopian War. Eastern Slavs weren't tribals. Nor were Albanians, Greeks, etc.


That was moreso tongue in cheek, but if you want to get into specifics...

In the case of Ethiopia, modernizing is the key word. If your nation loses to Italy, it deserves to be snuffed out. Admittedly the whole "kill darkie" mentality that accompanied the conquest was... rather deplorable and unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, but conquest for conquest's sake is always justifiable.

Albania pretty much submitted without putting up a fight, and Italy actually lost to the Greeks, with Germany having to completely postpone its plans for the USSR and literally steamroll practically the entire Balkans just to save the Italian Army from being utterly wiped out. If anything, Italy deserved to be annexed by Greece for performing so miserably and disgracing the Empire from which it claimed cultural descent.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:08 pm
by The Founding Fatherland
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.


Why? Literally every faction in the Russian Civil War was trash.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:08 pm
by Taihei Tengoku
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.

pilsudski

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:08 pm
by The East Marches II
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.


That would be gangster

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:09 pm
by Luminesa
One pool closes and another one opens, by unpopular demand.

Anyway, REJOICE CAUSE IT’S YA BOI AGAIN.

(Lumi you’re a girl.)

DARN IT INNER VOICE LET ME BE GANGSTER.

(You’re about as gangster as a Belgian waffle.)

Awwwwww...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:10 pm
by The Founding Fatherland
Sanctissima wrote:To continue the last thread's discussion:

War Gears wrote:
Ethiopia was a modernizing nation which was a member of the League of Nations, it's only crime was that it didn't bow down and worship the white Italian masters in the First Italo-Ethiopian War. Eastern Slavs weren't tribals. Nor were Albanians, Greeks, etc.


That was moreso tongue in cheek, but if you want to get into specifics...

In the case of Ethiopia, modernizing is the key word. If your nation loses to Italy, it deserves to be snuffed out. Admittedly the whole "kill darkie" mentality that accompanied the conquest was... rather deplorable and unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, but conquest for conquest's sake is always justifiable.

Albania pretty much submitted without putting up a fight, and Italy actually lost to the Greeks, with Germany having to completely postpone its plans for the USSR and literally steamroll practically the entire Balkans just to save the Italian Army from being utterly wiped out. If anything, Italy deserved to be annexed by Greece for performing so miserably and disgracing the Empire from which it claimed cultural descent.


My boy Metaxas was no pushover.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:10 pm
by Luminesa
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:He is correct. Theodore Roosevelt was an ultra militarist, but he didn't promote war crimes.


I'm being defended by a pacifist?

I guess there's a first for everything...

Teddy has blessed him with understanding of the amazing power of the Bull-Moose.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:11 pm
by War Gears
Luminesa wrote:One pool closes and another one opens, by unpopular demand.

Anyway, REJOICE CAUSE IT’S YA BOI AGAIN.

(Lumi you’re a girl.)

DARN IT INNER VOICE LET ME BE GANGSTER.

(You’re about as gangster as a Belgian waffle.)

Awwwwww...


"About as gangster as a Belgian waffle."

I'm stealing that one. :lol2:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:To continue the last thread's discussion:



That was moreso tongue in cheek, but if you want to get into specifics...

In the case of Ethiopia, modernizing is the key word. If your nation loses to Italy, it deserves to be snuffed out. Admittedly the whole "kill darkie" mentality that accompanied the conquest was... rather deplorable and unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, but conquest for conquest's sake is always justifiable.

Albania pretty much submitted without putting up a fight, and Italy actually lost to the Greeks, with Germany having to completely postpone its plans for the USSR and literally steamroll practically the entire Balkans just to save the Italian Army from being utterly wiped out. If anything, Italy deserved to be annexed by Greece for performing so miserably and disgracing the Empire from which it claimed cultural descent.


My boy Metaxas was no pushover.


It helps that he was fighting one of the most incompetent military leaders in European history.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:12 pm
by The Founding Fatherland
Luminesa wrote:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
I'm being defended by a pacifist?

I guess there's a first for everything...

Teddy has blessed him with understanding of the amazing power of the Bull-Moose.


Ah, yes. Saint Theodore of Columbia. The only capitalist republican I can actually respect.

Damn shame he was a racist.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:12 pm
by The Founding Fatherland
War Gears wrote:
Luminesa wrote:One pool closes and another one opens, by unpopular demand.

Anyway, REJOICE CAUSE IT’S YA BOI AGAIN.

(Lumi you’re a girl.)

DARN IT INNER VOICE LET ME BE GANGSTER.

(You’re about as gangster as a Belgian waffle.)

Awwwwww...


"About as gangster as a Belgian waffle."

I'm stealing that one. :lol2:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
My boy Metaxas was no pushover.


It helps that he was fighting one of the most incompetent military leaders in European history.


You act like Mussolini did all the fighting single-handedly.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:13 pm
by Thermodolia
Luminesa wrote:One pool closes and another one opens, by unpopular demand.

Anyway, REJOICE CAUSE IT’S YA BOI AGAIN.

(Lumi you’re a girl.)

DARN IT INNER VOICE LET ME BE GANGSTER.

(You’re about as gangster as a Belgian waffle.)

Awwwwww...

Hey Belgian waffles are awesome

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:13 pm
by Herskerstad
The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I think we should do a poll on what everyone's favorite anti-Bolshevik faction in the Russian Civil War was, like the Military government of Russia (Kolchak & Denikin), the Constitutional Assembly, the Tsarists, the Right SR's, and the Green Army.


That would be gangster


While I know a lot about Poland's interwar conflict, I am not too familiar with the spesific factions, would be nice if someone of reasonable knowledge on the subject would TG me the valid options.