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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:27 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:Versailles: The Kaiser Did Nothing Wrong, and Germany Was Right.


Serbia was the aggressor!

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:28 pm

War Gears wrote:What do you think regulars' traits would be as CK2 characters?

Marches: envious, deceitful, sympathy for Islam. :^^^^^^^^^^^)


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Postby Senkaku » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:28 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Same here really.
Love me some history chatter.

History is right-wing confirmed.

More like "self-professed right-wingers are really just lonely history nerds" confirmed, but I digress.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:28 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:Versailles: The Kaiser Did Nothing Wrong, and Germany Was Right.

Der Kaiser: "Russia is the white man's last hope against the Asian hordes"

"Hahaha, I told Nicky to stay in the war because I'd help him and he actually believed me, the absolute madman!"
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:29 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:
History is right-wing confirmed.

More like "self-professed right-wingers are really just lonely history nerds" confirmed, but I digress.


You know you want to be one of us!

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:29 pm

Hakons wrote:
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I think it says something about how different our values are that my favorite emperor is probably Caligula because he tried to import Oriental concepts of kingship to Rome and turn himself into a divine ruler.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:29 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:"Hahaha, I told Nicky to stay in the war because I'd help him and he actually believed me, the absolute madman!"

Japan deserved to win anyway.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:29 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:
History is right-wing confirmed.

More like "self-professed right-wingers are really just lonely history nerds" confirmed, but I digress.

This is true, it would be nice if there were literature in psychology or sociology on this phenomenon.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:30 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
War Gears wrote:What do you think regulars' traits would be as CK2 characters?

Marches: envious, deceitful, sympathy for Islam. :^^^^^^^^^^^)


DELET THIS I'M NOT ORTHODOX

It's like Protestantism but less degenerate.
Senkaku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:
History is right-wing confirmed.

More like "self-professed right-wingers are really just lonely history nerds" confirmed, but I digress.

N-no, that isn't true at all...
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Postby War Gears » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:30 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
War Gears wrote:I think it says something about how different our values are that my favorite emperor is probably Caligula because he tried to import Oriental concepts of kingship to Rome and turn himself into a divine ruler.

"Sure he's crazy as fuck, but he could have made himself impossibly powerful and unquestionable. =^^^)"


He wasn't already impossibly powerful and unquestionable? The fact that he had already practically destroyed the senate in terms of prestige and power, and the situation was only remedied by his assassination before he could go Alexandria, makes it hard to take this seriously. I also sincerely doubt that Caligula was insane. Most of his actions (such as the infamous horse story) are pretty much attacks on the senate by mocking their most treasured institutions.

When your predecessor is a child molester who liked to throw people off cliffs, making your horse consul doesn't seem all that bad.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:
History is right-wing confirmed.

More like "self-professed right-wingers are really just lonely history nerds" confirmed, but I digress.


You'd do well to study more history. Maybe then you wouldn't have such very bad and naive ideas. Especially that no fly list garbage. Tell me more about how that hasn't been used to punish reporters in the past.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
DELET THIS I'M NOT ORTHODOX

It's like Protestantism but more Islamic.

ftfy
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:33 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It's like Protestantism but more Islamic.

ftfy

I am internally conflicted at the validity of this statement.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:33 pm

War Gears wrote:He wasn't already impossibly powerful and unquestionable? The fact that he had already practically destroyed the senate in terms of prestige and power, and the situation was only remedied by his assassination before he could go Alexandria, makes it hard to take this seriously. I also sincerely doubt that Caligula was insane. Most of his actions (such as the infamous horse story) are pretty much attacks on the senate by mocking their most treasured institutions.

When your predecessor is a child molester who liked to throw people off cliffs, making your horse consul doesn't seem all that bad.

"C-Caligula was unfairly slandered by his enemies but all the stories about Tiberius are true"

Nice selectivity there. The kind of thing I would expect from someone who supports the cult of god-kings.
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Postby War Gears » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:34 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Sure, but I doubt Vietnam is going to accept him back with open arms. He was quite the horrible flawless leader.

ftfy


Besides the fact he discriminated against a religion which composed the overwhelming majority of the country and has had an effect on it's culture similar to, if not stronger than, Christianity to the West.
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United Muscovite Nations wrote:"Hahaha, I told Nicky to stay in the war because I'd help him and he actually believed me, the absolute madman!"

Japan deserved to win anyway.


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Postby War Gears » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:37 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
War Gears wrote:He wasn't already impossibly powerful and unquestionable? The fact that he had already practically destroyed the senate in terms of prestige and power, and the situation was only remedied by his assassination before he could go Alexandria, makes it hard to take this seriously. I also sincerely doubt that Caligula was insane. Most of his actions (such as the infamous horse story) are pretty much attacks on the senate by mocking their most treasured institutions.

When your predecessor is a child molester who liked to throw people off cliffs, making your horse consul doesn't seem all that bad.

"C-Caligula was unfairly slandered by his enemies but all the stories about Tiberius are true"

Nice selectivity there. The kind of thing I would expect from someone who supports the cult of god-kings.


Trying to one-up Sanctissma in obtuseness I see.

Didn't even say that he was "unfairly slandered," but that his actions can be quite easily interpreted as him screwing with an institution which he was trying hard to discredit in the eyes of the public and persecuted with treason trials. Though I do doubt some of the historical allegations, such as that he whored out the wives and sons of senate members. Mainly because I doubt that wouldn't have caused fullscale insurrection among the patricians. I dunno though, they might've been into that sort of thing. Most Europeans are nowadays from what I hear.
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Postby Hakons » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Sure, but I doubt Vietnam is going to accept him back with open arms. He was quite the horrible flawless leader.

ftfy
Genivaria wrote:Same here really.
Love me some history chatter.

History is right-wing confirmed.


I mean, most historical figures would be right-wing.

Left-wingers also tend to denounce history as raaaaacisssst.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:40 pm

War Gears wrote:Trying to one-up Sanctissma in obtuseness I see.

Didn't even say that he was "unfairly slandered," but that his actions can be quite easily interpreted as him screwing with an institution which he was trying hard to discredit in the eyes of the public and persecuted with treason trials. Though I do doubt some of the historical allegations, such as that he whored out the wives and sons of senate members. Mainly because I doubt that wouldn't have caused fullscale insurrection among the patricians. I dunno though, they might've been into that sort of thing. Most Europeans are nowadays from what I hear.

As Tiberius once said of the Senate, they became men fit to be slaves after Augustus. Also daily reminder that it was the Praetorian Guard who assassinated the twit.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:41 pm

War Gears wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:ftfy


Besides the fact he discriminated against a religion which composed the overwhelming majority of the country and has had an effect on it's culture similar to, if not stronger than, Christianity to the West.

I'm 101% certain that such a claim is false. Buddhism sank its teeth into numerous Oriental faiths, but even the Hindus beat you out in terms of influence.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:43 pm

Hakons wrote:I mean, most historical figures would be right-wing.

Left-wingers also tend to denounce history as raaaaacisssst.

Most major historical figures are relatively left-wing.

Right-wingers also tend to ignore history as "Liberal revisionism =^^^("

Sorry for reading sources, guys, we'll try to be less accurate and more sensitive to your feelings in the future. =^)
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Postby Minzerland II » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:45 pm

Alright, everyone, let's get back down to business. Seeing as we are discussing history at the moment, what is the most Right-wing event, in your opinion, to ever occur in Human history and why?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:46 pm

Minzerland II wrote:Alright, everyone, let's get back down to business. Seeing as we are discussing history at the moment, what is the most Right-wing event to ever occur in Human history and why?

The Migration Period. It brought Euroland back to traditional ways of life.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:46 pm

Minzerland II wrote:Alright, everyone, let's get back down to business. Seeing as we are discussing history at the moment, what is the most Right-wing event to ever occur in Human history and why?

.......Caesar being stabbed by a bunch of wealthy landowners. :D
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:48 pm

Minzerland II wrote:Alright, everyone, let's get back down to business. Seeing as we are discussing history at the moment, what is the most Right-wing event, in your opinion, to ever occur in Human history and why?

The American Revolution, where a swarm of white, individualist landowning males with alcohol and guns decided to fight a nanny state to avoid paying taxes.
It's beautiful.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Alright, everyone, let's get back down to business. Seeing as we are discussing history at the moment, what is the most Right-wing event, in your opinion, to ever occur in Human history and why?

The American Revolution, where a swarm of white, individualist landowning males with alcohol and guns decided to fight a nanny state to avoid paying taxes.
It's beautiful.

I think you mean the event where a bunch of upper-middle class guys who had too much of that fancy book learnin' dared to throw a temper tantrum against the traditional way of things because they felt they were special. You know, basically every criticism of liberalism from the right ever. =^)
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