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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:54 am

War Gears wrote:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.

Female future? Okay, I'm down with-

>> men kept as chattel
>> dystopian ass police state
>> things will be good because it's designed =^^^)

- fuck no.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:54 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Then basic anthropology is wrong. Although in fact I don't think it teaches that.

... the study of the development of systems of honor and why they arise in some places and not others is a common subject to tackle in the field.

Honor (the opposite of shame) is pretty fundamental.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:55 am

The East Marches II wrote:Marshal Radetzky taught the Italians a few lessons in manners. Even without his genius, they still held the Quadrilateral.

>When you have to trade France two provinces to get a shitty one from Austria

10/10 logic guys well done

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:55 am

War Gears wrote:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.


>Taking the opinion of women like that seriously
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:55 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Marshal Radetzky taught the Italians a few lessons in manners. Even without his genius, they still held the Quadrilateral.

>When you have to trade France two provinces to get a shitty one from Austria

10/10 logic guys well done

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:56 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor (the opposite of shame) is pretty fundamental.

Dogs feel shame. Does this mean when a dog does not feel shame that is it's honor? Be realistic. All sorts of animals feel shame. Are they the dawn of civilizations?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:57 am

War Gears wrote:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.


>the last ten percent will be used for breeding

Fucking hell, you'd think it was a female Costa, except Costa isn't at all this murderous.
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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:00 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
War Gears wrote:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.

Female future? Okay, I'm down with-

>> men kept as chattel
>> dystopian ass police state
>> things will be good because it's designed =^^^)

- fuck no.


What if I call them "timeless principles?" :^)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:00 am

War Gears wrote:What if I call them "timeless principles?" :^)

Then you can go join Parkus in the Corner Of Shame. =^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:02 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor (the opposite of shame) is pretty fundamental.

Dogs feel shame. Does this mean when a dog does not feel shame that is it's honor? Be realistic. All sorts of animals feel shame. Are they the dawn of civilizations?


If you honor a dog, he will feel honored, possibly.

I don't think honor means civilization automatically but I do think it is a requisite, therefore important to maintain.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:03 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:If you honor a dog, he will feel honored, possibly.

Yet the dog has no sense of honor. So how does that work, again?
I don't think honor means civilization automatically but I do think it is a requisite, therefore important to maintain.

I'm sure you'll be able to explain societies that developed without systems of honor then.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:07 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:If you honor a dog, he will feel honored, possibly.

Yet the dog has no sense of honor. So how does that work, again?


Dogs have more sense than men, I'm sure they understand something of the sort unlike some people.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:07 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:If you honor a dog, he will feel honored, possibly.

Yet the dog has no sense of honor. So how does that work, again?
I don't think honor means civilization automatically but I do think it is a requisite, therefore important to maintain.

I'm sure you'll be able to explain societies that developed without systems of honor then.

If the dog has no sense of honor, then his supposed shame is simply anxiety over his master's wrath.

I am sure no such society has developed, only collapsed.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:13 am

The East Marches II wrote:Dogs have more sense than men, I'm sure they understand something of the sort unlike some people.

Dogs know loyalty. That's a little different.
The Parkus Empire wrote:If the dog has no sense of honor, then his supposed shame is simply anxiety over his master's wrath.

Got it in one.
I am sure no such society has developed, only collapsed.

I'm sure you can elaborate on how only a relatively small number of agrarian societies developed the notion of honor, most of which have long since collapsed, proves that societies without honor don't exist.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:13 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Dogs know loyalty. That's a little different.


And duty.

Who is to say they don't know honor?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:14 am

The East Marches II wrote:And duty.

Who is to say they don't know honor?

Dogs love stealing, foul play, trickery, and literally eating shit.

I think their sense of honor is pretty nonexistent.
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Postby Minzerland II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:14 am

War Gears wrote:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:15 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:And duty.

Who is to say they don't know honor?

Dogs love stealing, foul play, trickery, and literally eating shit.

I think their sense of honor is pretty nonexistent.


Maybe your mountain dogs, honest flatlander dogs know better than to engage in such banditry.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:16 am

The East Marches II wrote:Maybe your mountain dogs, honest flatlander dogs know better than to engage in such banditry.

This is just proof that flatlanders have been outwitted by their own dogs. I bet you think the trash unpacks itself all over the kitchen floor, don't you? =^)
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:17 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Maybe your mountain dogs, honest flatlander dogs know better than to engage in such banditry.

This is just proof that flatlanders have been outwitted by their own dogs. I bet you think the trash unpacks itself all over the kitchen floor, don't you? =^)


>raising doggos that think thats ok

The Mountain folk, bad culture, bad dogs.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:17 am

Also I will never recover from my humiliation from when I had a dog so skillfully and subtly slip a sandwich out of my hand that I didn't notice until I went to take a bite out of it and heard the dog start scarfing it down twice as fast when it realized the jig was up.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:18 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Dogs have more sense than men, I'm sure they understand something of the sort unlike some people.

Dogs know loyalty. That's a little different.
The Parkus Empire wrote:If the dog has no sense of honor, then his supposed shame is simply anxiety over his master's wrath.

Got it in one.
I am sure no such society has developed, only collapsed.

I'm sure you can elaborate on how only a relatively small number of agrarian societies developed the notion of honor, most of which have long since collapsed, proves that societies without honor don't exist.


Sophisticated systems or even whole economies of honor can develop, but honor itself is ubiquitous among all societies which have sense of shame, it being the inverse. Even the most savage peoples accord honor among their own and often to aancestors and gods.
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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:20 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:And duty.

Who is to say they don't know honor?

Dogs love stealing, foul play, trickery, and literally eating shit.

I think their sense of honor is pretty nonexistent.


My grandparents' dog hates my cat, but he apparently loves raiding his litter box for lunch.

It's like if girl #1 hated girl 2# in 2 Girls 1 Cup while still eating the content of the cup.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:20 am

The East Marches II wrote:>raising doggos that think thats ok

The Mountain folk, bad culture, bad dogs.

They don't think it's okay. Good mountain dogs learn to do things and blame other people for them. They get good at not being caught. The ultimate understanding of morality is understanding its subversion. :)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:21 am

War Gears wrote:My grandparents' dog hates my cat, but he apparently loves raiding his litter box for lunch.

It's like if girl #1 hated girl 2# in 2 Girls 1 Cup while still eating the content of the cup.

I once saw two dogs tactically corral two goats so they could take turns barking them into submission and eating their shit, like guards taking shifts. It was the most disgusting display of brilliance and teamwork I'd ever seen.
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