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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Hakons
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Postby Hakons » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:50 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Through super secret discord talks we have reached a consensus for the next name and it's an old classic.

It's okay to be right.


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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:04 pm

Hakons wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Through super secret discord talks we have reached a consensus for the next name and it's an old classic.

It's okay to be right.


These titles never disappoint


Since last time there was a mod upset over 495 for some reason, we will wait until 500 and I'll have the thread and some art upcomming. Be gud bois meanwhile and patient.
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Senyosu
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Postby Senyosu » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:40 pm

Reminder that Genghis Khan's rapid expansion did more for the west than any other individual in western history.

Mattopilos II wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.


I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

It would be a tie between free will and "natural rights" imo.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:52 pm

Senyosu wrote:Reminder that Genghis Khan's rapid expansion did more for the west than any other individual in western history.

Mattopilos II wrote:
I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

It would be a tie between free will and "natural rights" imo.


It's a pretty central topic, but "Free will" and "Determinism" has all sorts of nuances. Are we talking predestination? Are we talking voluntarism?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:56 pm

Hakons wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is disliked enough for their to be a trope devoted to it's perception as evil. So you know popular culture counts for something.


Frankly, I've only heard internet atheists complain about free will, and they complain about because they can't accept the fallen nature of man. Popular culture implies the anti-free will crowd is actually popular, and I have yet to see this.


>when your an atheist that supports free will

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:58 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Hakons wrote:
Frankly, I've only heard internet atheists complain about free will, and they complain about because they can't accept the fallen nature of man. Popular culture implies the anti-free will crowd is actually popular, and I have yet to see this.


>when your an atheist that supports free will

feels bad man


>your
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
>when your an atheist that supports free will

feels bad man


>your


it's all /jɚ/ to me
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Darussalam
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Postby Darussalam » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:19 pm

>when you're a determinist libertarian
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Postby Khornatenreich » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Hakons wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Balk - Basil the fool. Our beloved shitposter who will reach the heights of admiration through spreading joy and random things.


RIP Balk
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I called him a dumbass on a messenger program around an hour ago.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:32 pm

Darussalam wrote:>when you're a determinist libertarian

Disgusting.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:35 pm

Khornatenreich wrote:
Hakons wrote:
RIP Balk
May he always roam the pleasant industrial wastes of Michigan



I called him a dumbass on a messenger program around an hour ago.


Why?

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Khornatenreich
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Postby Khornatenreich » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:37 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Khornatenreich wrote:

I called him a dumbass on a messenger program around an hour ago.


Why?



For the greater good
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:37 pm

Khornatenreich wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Why?



For the greater good

No xenos allowed in the RWDT.
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Postby Mujahidah » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Khornatenreich wrote:

For the greater good

No xenos allowed in the RWDT.


Only good bug is a dead bug?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:41 pm

Khornatenreich wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Why?



For the greater good


>the greater good

Khornatenreich is a Tau spy!

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:47 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Khornatenreich wrote:

For the greater good


>the greater good

Khornatenreich is a Tau spy!

Exterminatus is the only rational answer.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
>the greater good

Khornatenreich is a Tau spy!

Exterminatus is the only rational answer.


Agreed. I’ll allow you the honour of pushing the big red button.

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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:49 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Exterminatus is the only rational answer.


Agreed. I’ll allow you the honour of pushing the big red button.


Nah Exterminatus sounds too Latin. I'd prefer to not leave our bug-killing activities in the hands of Space Catholics.
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
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Senyosu
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Postby Senyosu » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:55 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Senyosu wrote:Reminder that Genghis Khan's rapid expansion did more for the west than any other individual in western history.


It would be a tie between free will and "natural rights" imo.


It's a pretty central topic, but "Free will" and "Determinism" has all sorts of nuances. Are we talking predestination? Are we talking voluntarism?

Indeed, the argument takes many forms in that regard.
Senyosu is under reconstruction, however, former tropes still apply

The State of Senyosu ― Senñosy-ül Jür

Your resident Frugal, Nationalistic, Quasi-Jingoist, Buddhist-Tengrist, North-East Asian, Technocratic, Democratic Khanate
anything u want me to be babe ;)

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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:09 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Exterminatus is the only rational answer.


Agreed. I’ll allow you the honour of pushing the big red button.

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Mujahidah wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Agreed. I’ll allow you the honour of pushing the big red button.


Nah Exterminatus sounds too Latin. I'd prefer to not leave our bug-killing activities in the hands of Space Catholics.

This is why we purge planets.
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Mujahidah
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Postby Mujahidah » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:11 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Nah Exterminatus sounds too Latin. I'd prefer to not leave our bug-killing activities in the hands of Space Catholics.

This is why we purge planets.


Because of Space Catholics? That kind of infestation sounds like a good reason to purge a planet :P
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The Parkus Empire wrote:I misjudged you, you are much more smarter than I gave you credit for.
Northern Davincia wrote:Can we engrave this in a plaque?
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not sure I'm entirely comfortable with a woman being this well informed, but I'll try not to judge.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Ah, m'lady, if I were a heathen I'd wed thee four times

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Germanic Templars
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:55 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
*pokes head in* What about ol' GT?


We do not mention the likes of Baron Von Ungern Sternberg here.


But he hated the Bolshleviks, and and he was a gud Austrian-Hungarian (if that is how you say it).

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:57 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:"Germanic" Templars.
I should have known you were a double-agent for the Huns.


>when Davincia didn’t realise this fact as soon as he met Templars


Why do you slander me as such like you do, Felrik?

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:05 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Haven't you heard that morality is really blue and orange?


Morality is Boise State?


No, Gettysburg College.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:07 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
>the greater good

Khornatenreich is a Tau spy!


From what I have heard about Warhammer 40K, the Tau at least sound better than the humans.
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