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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:04 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Mistake: made.


Stealing decades of a person's life, or taking their life unjustly is a little more than a "mistake".

On the contrary, it's the epitome of a mistake.

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I have to fap in the restroom too.
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Postby Aillyria » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:15 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:It works the same with sex: it's not a sin per se when it's within the seal of matrimony

And even then it's massively overrated.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:It's going without carnal satisfaction drives me nuts, and now I basically turn into butter whenever a woman flirts with me or touches me. It's most distressing

You can solve that problem by not being a fucking normie.

You know how I feel about sexism, UMN: it's a fine and noble thing. But this much salt ruins the fruitcake.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:16 am

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Women are pretty bad, and should be avoided at all costs for the sake of one's dignity and sanity.

The avoiding them is actually what's driving me insane, dignity aside.

So maybe for Lent you can examine your feelings about women, and learn to see them the way God sees them. As beautiful and with many wonderful gifts to give to the world. A good devotion to Mary can go a long way to understanding femininity.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:18 am

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:So would you say that an autocrat cannot sin when acting as leader of the state, as long as he isn't corrupt? That no mistake he could legitimately make would be sin?

Looking at the OT, it's clear monarchs can mistakenly sin. But judgement and punishment per se are not sins when performed by the sovereign, be it an individual or a state. Sovereignty is an office appointed by God to exercise these functions.

So if David unjustly punished an innocent man, that’s not a sin?
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Postby Benuty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:39 am

Luminesa wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Looking at the OT, it's clear monarchs can mistakenly sin. But judgement and punishment per se are not sins when performed by the sovereign, be it an individual or a state. Sovereignty is an office appointed by God to exercise these functions.

So if David unjustly punished an innocent man, that’s not a sin?

I don't know about unjustly punish, but this is the same man who sent someone to their death so they could be with their wife. So the litmus test of what exactly a sin is shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:41 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I have come to the conclusion that women are a conspiracy. I see them everywhere I go, they invade my thoughts and dreams. The restroom is my only sanctuary, the last sacred partition.

Women are pretty bad, and should be avoided at all costs for the sake of one's dignity and sanity.

This reminds me of a certain circle in evangelical Christianity that asserts married men avoid women without their wife present. Say of it what you will I guess it works, but the thing that nags me is what happens when their wife dies?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:41 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Stealing decades of a person's life, or taking their life unjustly is a little more than a "mistake".

On the contrary, it's the epitome of a mistake.


It's the epitome of a tragedy and horrible wrongdoing.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:42 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:On the contrary, it's the epitome of a mistake.


It's the epitome of a tragedy and horrible wrongdoing.

True especially if its done intentionally which the U.S and other countries have plenty of examples just for that category.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:17 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:On the contrary, it's the epitome of a mistake.


It's the epitome of a tragedy and horrible wrongdoing.

IE a mistake.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:19 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
It's the epitome of a tragedy and horrible wrongdoing.

IE a mistake.


Putting your shoes on the wrong feet is a mistake. You wouldn't say that the Holocaust is a "mistake".
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:20 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:IE a mistake.


Putting your shoes on the wrong feet is a mistake. You wouldn't say that the Holocaust is a "mistake".


Keep playing it up, it won't do you any good.

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Postby Benuty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:56 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Putting your shoes on the wrong feet is a mistake. You wouldn't say that the Holocaust is a "mistake".


Keep playing it up, it won't do you any good.

Hmm... so we could say Nobody ever did anything wrong?
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:59 pm

Benuty wrote:
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Keep playing it up, it won't do you any good.

Hmm... so we could say Nobody ever did anything wrong?


That's clearly too far as it has been well established here that civilizational tier mistakes have been made.

Yes, the evangelicals who won't be in a room with another woman without their wives present. They proved smarter than the rest of us with this whole me too business.

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Postby Benuty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:03 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Benuty wrote:Hmm... so we could say Nobody ever did anything wrong?


That's clearly too far as it has been well established here that civilizational tier mistakes have been made.

Yes, the evangelicals who won't be in a room with another woman without their wives present. They proved smarter than the rest of us with this whole me too business.

I mean I can get the sentiment even if it somewhat goes too far especially in a culture where everyone sues each other to the point of starting another world war.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:15 pm

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Postby Aillyria » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:48 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I can't really give you good advice on how to avoid women, it's not a problem for me.

It's going without carnal satisfaction drives me nuts, and now I basically turn into butter whenever a woman flirts with me or touches me. It's most distressing

That's sad. I don't understand it, I guess I must have a low sex drive or something. Sex is literally something I almost never think about.
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Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:51 pm

Aillyria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's going without carnal satisfaction drives me nuts, and now I basically turn into butter whenever a woman flirts with me or touches me. It's most distressing

That's sad. I don't understand it, I guess I must have a low sex drive or something. Sex is literally something I almost never think about.

Men are different creatures in that regard.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:52 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's sad. I don't understand it, I guess I must have a low sex drive or something. Sex is literally something I almost never think about.

Men are different creatures in that regard.

Most aren't as extreme in these regards as Parkus is, however.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:54 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Men are different creatures in that regard.

Most aren't as extreme in these regards as Parkus is, however.

As extreme in thinking about sex or as extreme in thinking about how and why to control other people's sex? :p
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:58 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Forgive me, a sinner.

Forgive me, a sinner
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:59 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Most aren't as extreme in these regards as Parkus is, however.

As extreme in thinking about sex or as extreme in thinking about how and why to control other people's sex? :p


Not manually. At least not anymore
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:48 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:IE a mistake.


Putting your shoes on the wrong feet is a mistake. You wouldn't say that the Holocaust is a "mistake".

The Holocaust was a mistake.

WHAT. FUCKING. NOW.
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Postby Aillyria » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:53 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Forgive me, a sinner.

Forgive me, a sinner

Is this some sort of weird Christian meme or something?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

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Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:03 am

Aillyria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Forgive me, a sinner

Is this some sort of weird Christian meme or something?

You're a sinner too Ai-chan.

Pray for forgiveness now.
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Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
Anti-NN
EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
Alternate Universe 40K
Nightcore
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