Right Wing Discussion Thread X: Pol's closed

[The East Marches II]

I just need to thank you guys, reading through this page was my first hearty laugh of the day. My weekend is going to start off well......*wipes away tear from rigorous laughter*

People are rage monsters so suddenly, in the LWDT Multiversal Communist thought I was harassing him by me merely disagreeing with him about socialism and "regressive leftism".

My question is what drew you to Sorealianism?

[Aillyria]

I just need to thank you guys, reading through this page was my first hearty laugh of the day. My weekend is going to start off well......*wipes away tear from rigorous laughter*

People are rage monsters so suddenly, in the LWDT Multiversal Communist thought I was harassing him by me merely disagreeing with him about socialism and "regressive leftism".

My question is what drew you to Sorealianism?

Hmm...well many things. I agree with his views on the utility of violence in transforming society and the virtues of bold combat against ones enemies. I'm a moralist, so I also agree with Sorel on using socialism to rekindle the worker and soldier morality in civilization. I agree with him mostly on the motivation for socialism, but not necessarily the form such a society would take, I'm a great deal more authoritarian than he was.

[The Parkus Empire]

Despite my antipathy towards Hegel, I suggest you read The Philosophy of Right

I'll try it, but I can't guarantee I'll get far.

I've tried reading Phenomenology of the Spirit in the past, and just... couldn't get into it. I didn't mind the esotericism so much as Hegel's habit of taking half-a-dozen pages just to make one simple point... every damn time.

The Philosophy of Right is far more lucid. I would not recommend Phenomenology of the Spirit to anyone, and in my opinion it contains a great deal of charlatanism.

[The Parkus Empire]

>2018
>people still think that democracy is moral

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

[Claorica]

>2018
>people still think that democracy is moral

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

Democracy essentially forces the entirety of the society to follow the will of a simple majority of the people, even if the majority are immoral degenerates who want policies and actions that are a poison to society.

[Northern Davincia]

We need to legalize open-carry swords.

[The Parkus Empire]

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

Democracy essentially forces the entirety of the society to follow the will of a simple majority of the people, even if the majority are immoral degenerates who want policies and actions that are a poison to society.

Only in an absolute democracy, but most """democracies""" only use democracy for certain things. In the United States, for instance, it originally was limited to the election of the lower house.

[The Parkus Empire]

We need to legalize open-carry swords.

Muh katana

[United Muscovite Nations]

>2018
>people still think that democracy is moral

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

[The Parkus Empire]

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

I don't know any democracy that is run by plebiscites, or even could be (except on a local level). Moreover, even representatives in the democracy of the U.S., are not supposed to simply be the tools of their constituents' will. The Federalist Papers says, for instance, that representatives are elected to make decisions based on their own judgement, and are obligated to go against the will of their constituents when there is a conflict.

[The Parkus Empire]

Papism leads to the Great Schism
Papism leads to the Reformation

Q: "So what is the point of Papism?"
A: "Unity."

[The Empire of Pretantia]

"Making decisions is immoral."
Come again?

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

I don't know any democracy that is run by plebiscites, or even could be (except on a local level). Moreover, even representatives in the democracy of the U.S., are not supposed to simply be the tools of their constituents' will. The Federalist Papers says, for instance, that representatives are elected to make decisions based on their own judgement, and are obligated to go against the will of their constituents when there is a conflict.

If you give the representatives their power, and they commit evil in your name, then you have committed evil. If power and legitimacy comes from the popular will, which is the basic premise of democracy, then the people are responsible for what that power and legitimacy does. That is why it is better to have a monarch, because the monarch commits evil without the popular will, so that the people aren't sullied by it, and the monarch is alone responsible for his actions.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Papism leads to the Great Schism
Papism leads to the Reformation

Q: "So what is the point of Papism?"
A: "Unity."

>Other people don't wanna live free of sin
>This is Papism's fault
Come on Senpai.

[Northern Davincia]

Papism leads to the Great Schism
Papism leads to the Reformation

Q: "So what is the point of Papism?"
A: "Unity."

Once the Vatican encompasses the globe, Christianity will no longer fear the heretic.
:^)

[United Muscovite Nations]

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

And if that person wins, then I'm responsible for the evils they commit in my name. No, I refuse to vote or participate in democracy in any way under those terms.

[The Parkus Empire]

Having everyone make a single decision forces the evil that is decided upon everyone's conscience. It makes us all responsible for the evils that our government commits in our name.

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

I do think the upper house and the executive should absolutely not be subject to popular vote. That makes zero sense. It's like popular election of justices of the Supreme Court.

[The Parkus Empire]

Papism leads to the Great Schism
Papism leads to the Reformation

Q: "So what is the point of Papism?"
A: "Unity."

>Other people don't wanna live free of sin
>This is Papism's fault
Come on Senpai.

Innocent III repeals the Magna Carta

Benedict XVI says we must subject the world to a global financial authority.

But if you think Papism is bs meddling in shit that isn't the Pope's concern, you don't wanna leave free of sin. :^)

[The Parkus Empire]

Papism leads to the Great Schism
Papism leads to the Reformation

Q: "So what is the point of Papism?"
A: "Unity."

Once the Vatican encompasses the globe, Christianity will no longer fear the heretic.
:^)

Then we can finally be free of all national borders. :^)

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

And if that person wins, then I'm responsible for the evils they commit in my name. No, I refuse to vote or participate in democracy in any way under those terms.

That's why you never win any elections.

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

I do think the upper house and the executive should absolutely not be subject to popular vote. That makes zero sense. It's like popular election of justices of the Supreme Court.

>The people who represent the people shouldn't be elected by the people
What did he mean by this?

[The Parkus Empire]

Meanwhile, in any other sort of state we're still responsible because we're not overthrowing the government.

Don't like it? Vote for someone else next time.

And if that person wins, then I'm responsible for the evils they commit in my name. No, I refuse to vote or participate in democracy in any way under those terms.

No more than God is responsible for the evils of monarchs who rule in his name.

[United Muscovite Nations]

And if that person wins, then I'm responsible for the evils they commit in my name. No, I refuse to vote or participate in democracy in any way under those terms.

That's why you never win any elections.

Why would I want to win any elections?

[United Muscovite Nations]

And if that person wins, then I'm responsible for the evils they commit in my name. No, I refuse to vote or participate in democracy in any way under those terms.

No more than God is responsible for the evils of monarchs who rule in his name.

It's not comparable. The person I vote for derives his power from my support, and is supposedly beholden to me.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

>Other people don't wanna live free of sin
>This is Papism's fault
Come on Senpai.

Innocent III repeals the Magna Carta

Benedict XVI says we must subject the world to a global financial authority.

Where's the lie? Where's the mistake? What's wrong with these?

Papism for everyone. One nation, one world, one people, one pope.

[The Parkus Empire]

>The people who represent the people shouldn't be elected by the people
What did he mean by this?

The House of Representatives is Congress, not the Senate or the Executive.