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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:10 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:She taught to that on...her authority as your mother! Not on reason, but on the basis of traditional authority.

Yeah, there's a reason she came to regret that bit.
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Postby War Gears » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:11 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:"Cheap decadence" (skinny jeans and yoga pants, for example).


:roll:

You and Evola should hang around. He thought women in skinny jeans should be put in concentration camps.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:That's fucking awful. I had no idea that sort of thing even existed till now.

They taste vaguely of death. Would not recommend.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:12 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Fast food. It kills the culture. It's even rubbed off on Christian communion:


They had those in my old church for people who missed communion that day. But hey, fuck you if circumstances interfere, eh?

Why would you need that for people who missed communion? Let alone distribute it that way in general (which many churches now do).
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The Parkus Empire wrote:Why would you need that for people who missed communion?

... so they can take communion.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:15 pm

War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:"Cheap decadence" (skinny jeans and yoga pants, for example).


:roll:

You and Evola should hang around. He thought women in skinny jeans should be put in concentration camps.

Evola was an ultra modernist (hence his love of Nietzsche).

Evola developed the doctrine of "magical idealism", which held that "the Ego must understand that everything that seems to have a reality independent of it is nothing but an illusion, caused by its own deficiency."[31] For Evola, this ever-increasing unity with the "absolute individual" was consistent with unconstrained liberty, and therefore unconditional power.[10] In his 1925 work Essays on Magical Idealism, Evola declared that "God does not exist. The Ego must create him by making itself divine."[31]

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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:15 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:>> TEM
>> fears yoga pants

Old World Church confirmed


As my mother always told me; one shouldn't aspire to dress like poor white trash. Yet for some reason, this has become the norm. Respectable values out the window. It's tough to find people who know proper table manners these days too.


I remember my grandma would hit me for putting my elbow on the table and using my left hand to eat.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:16 pm

War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:"Cheap decadence" (skinny jeans and yoga pants, for example).


:roll:

You and Evola should hang around. He thought women in skinny jeans should be put in concentration camps.


I'd extend that to both genders tbh

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:17 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Why would you need that for people who missed communion?

... so they can take communion.

Use some that the priest keeps in reserve.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:18 pm

Or, better yet, give the priest advance notice that you're going to miss communion. Then instead of finishing it all himself, he can set some aside for you.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:18 pm

The East Marches II wrote:I'd extend that to both genders tbh

Skinny jeans on women are fine. It's just men who were them who need to be quarantined from the general population.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Use some that the priest keeps in reserve.

... the pastor doesn't keep a 'reserve'. It's not Nazi gold.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:18 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
As my mother always told me; one shouldn't aspire to dress like poor white trash. Yet for some reason, this has become the norm. Respectable values out the window. It's tough to find people who know proper table manners these days too.


I remember my grandma would hit me for putting my elbow on the table and using my left hand to eat.

You're supposed to eat with your left hand. You cut with your right.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:19 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Or, better yet, give the priest advance notice that you're going to miss communion. Then instead of finishing it all himself, he can set some aside for you.

Finishing it all himself...?

And what if you don't know that you're going to miss communion? Get caught in traffic? A minor accident? Miss the alarm? What, do you call the pastor's cell in the middle of service and hope he forgot to turn it off?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:19 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:I'd extend that to both genders tbh

Skinny jeans on women are fine. It's just men who were them who need to be quarantined from the general population.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Use some that the priest keeps in reserve.

... the pastor doesn't keep a 'reserve'. It's not Nazi gold.

We keep a reserve for emergencies. Like if the priest gets a call in the middle of the night and someone is dying.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:20 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
I remember my grandma would hit me for putting my elbow on the table and using my left hand to eat.

You're supposed to eat with your left hand. You cut with your right.


She didn't want me growing up left handed.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:21 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
As my mother always told me; one shouldn't aspire to dress like poor white trash. Yet for some reason, this has become the norm. Respectable values out the window. It's tough to find people who know proper table manners these days too.


I remember my grandma would hit me for putting my elbow on the table and using my left hand to eat.


Rightfully so, you are a better person for it. You can now fit into respectable circles without making a fool of yourself. It's a very valuable skill.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:21 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:We keep a reserve for emergencies. Like if the priest gets a call in the middle of the night and someone is dying.

Not an old world church here. Communion before you die isn't a thing.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:22 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Rightfully so, you are a better person for it. You can now fit into respectable circles without making a fool of yourself. It's a very valuable skill.

The new world of respectable circles has left those old money families behind. =^)

You are the new global poor, TEM.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
I remember my grandma would hit me for putting my elbow on the table and using my left hand to eat.

You're supposed to eat with your left hand. You cut with your right.


I suspect because they were supposed to be left handed.

t. Was born left handed and made right

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Postby War Gears » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Evola was an ultra modernist (hence his love of Nietzsche).


.... no.

I like how your first response is not to condemn someone wanting to stick people in concentration camps, or being offended at the comparison, but just to call someone modernist. I guess that you deserve kudos for being honest and not denying what would happen to most people were your Church actually able to win wars and obtain state power.
The Parkus Empire wrote:Evola developed the doctrine of "magical idealism", which held that "the Ego must understand that everything that seems to have a reality independent of it is nothing but an illusion, caused by its own deficiency."[31] For Evola, this ever-increasing unity with the "absolute individual" was consistent with unconstrained liberty, and therefore unconditional power.[10] In his 1925 work Essays on Magical Idealism, Evola declared that "God does not exist. The Ego must create him by making itself divine."[31]


Evola flirted with various different philosophical strains of thought around this period. He was involved with Dadaism, Futurism to some degree, and other various ideologies which he would later reject. It's asinine to call someone who wanted to return to the period before the French Revolution a "modernist."
The Parkus Empire wrote:Perennialism is a philosophy that came out of the Renaissance.


Mainly it's fixation on Neoplatonism, which is not modernist by any stretch of the imagination.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:22 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Or, better yet, give the priest advance notice that you're going to miss communion. Then instead of finishing it all himself, he can set some aside for you.

Finishing it all himself...?

And what if you don't know that you're going to miss communion? Get caught in traffic? A minor accident? Miss the alarm? What, do you call the pastor's cell in the middle of service and hope he forgot to turn it off?

The priest finishes whatever is left of the communion, it's his job. We mix the wine and bread, you see, since babies also receive.

Our services are pretty long and communion is at the very end, I don't think getting caught in traffic is going to prevent you from making communion unless are already planning to skip a good portion of the service (which, admittedly, is not uncommon among Orthodox with a short attention span).
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:23 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:"Cheap decadence" (skinny jeans and yoga pants, for example). A startling development and altogether new. Modernity held the seductive promise that we would all get a piece of the aristocratic pie, but at all we got is the aristocratic decadence. If we all got a proper slice of the pie, everyone would read and write Latin and Greek.

Internet culture is less dangerous than pop culture. Internet culture is a rootless culture mainly confined to the internet, whereas pop culture seeps out everywhere and erodes organic culture. Not that internet culture doesn't sometimes borrow from pop culture, and vice versa, but, for example, I'm not too worried about Max Stirner becoming a part of pop culture even though he's very much a part of internet culture.


What is your obsession with decadence?
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Postby War Gears » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Rightfully so, you are a better person for it.


> British imperialist trap (probably with ambitions to rule the world).
> "better person."

It seems the perfidious Anglo will defend one of his own even when all the facts are against her.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:24 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:The priest finishes whatever is left of the communion, it's his job. We mix the wine and bread, you see, since babies also receive.

Children don't receive, and the priest doesn't wait after service doing shots.
Our services are pretty long and communion is at the very end, I don't think getting caught in traffic is going to prevent you from making communion unless are already planning to skip a good portion of the service (which, admittedly, is not uncommon among Orthodox with a short attention span).

Communion was always at the start at my church in case anyone had to leave for an emergency they wouldn't miss it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:24 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Rightfully so, you are a better person for it. You can now fit into respectable circles without making a fool of yourself. It's a very valuable skill.

The new world of respectable circles has left those old money families behind. =^)

You are the new global poor, TEM.


>Implying they don't take on that mantle and manners to fit in

555-come-on-now

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