Right Wing Discussion Thread X: Pol's closed

by **Mujahidah** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:22 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:"Germanic" Templars.
I should have known you were a double-agent for the Huns.

>when Davincia didn’t realise this fact as soon as he met Templars

Who woulda thunk it?

by **FelrikTheDeleted** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:23 am

Mujahidah wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
>when Davincia didn’t realise this fact as soon as he met Templars

Who woulda thunk it?

>Germanic
>a Templar

The combo is too good to be true.

by **Mujahidah** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:>a Templar

[TRIGGERED]

by **Mattopilos II** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:28 am

Benuty wrote:
Viktorika wrote:I have the perfect idea what I am doing, you cannot decide that for me.

It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.

I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

by **Mujahidah** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:32 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.

I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

Are you accusing the Divine of error?

by **Mattopilos II** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:37 am

Mujahidah wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

Are you accusing the Divine of error?

Why would I accuse what I don't think exists? At least, not in the form of a personal god.

by **Mujahidah** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:43 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Are you accusing the Divine of error?

Why would I accuse what I don't think exists?

Regardless of your decision to acknowledge Him, He exists, and 'free will' is a concept He created.

by **Mattopilos II** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:52 am

Mujahidah wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
Why would I accuse what I don't think exists?

Regardless of your decision to acknowledge Him, He exists, and 'free will' is a concept He created.

You would have to prove it to me for that to ever mean anything to me, but since you won't, I think its best to terminate said line of discourse.

by **Hakons** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:36 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.

I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

Oh man, people being responsible for their own decisions! I very much doubt free will is as disliked as you think it is.

by **Hakons** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:40 am

Herskerstad wrote:Balk - Basil the fool. Our beloved shitposter who will reach the heights of admiration through spreading joy and random things.

RIP Balk
May he always roam the pleasant industrial wastes of Michigan

by **Benuty** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:44 am

Hakons wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

Oh man, people being responsible for their own decisions! I very much doubt free will is as disliked as you think it is.

It is disliked enough for their to be a trope devoted to it's perception as evil. So you know popular culture counts for something.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:48 am

Benuty wrote:
Viktorika wrote:I have the perfect idea what I am doing, you cannot decide that for me.

It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.

If the individual can't decide what to do themselves, who decides for him, and what gives them the right?

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:50 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is any wonder I have become decidedly against the concept of "free will" for it must be destroyed.

I would say we should make a poll for concepts that were a mistake, but I feel Free Will would almost definitely win by a landslide.

As in free will vs determinism or as in freedom? If the former, free will would probably not win, if the latter, free will would definitely not win.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:52 am

Benuty wrote:
Hakons wrote:
Oh man, people being responsible for their own decisions! I very much doubt free will is as disliked as you think it is.

It is disliked enough for their to be a trope devoted to it's perception as evil. So you know popular culture counts for something.

And this trope is?...

by **Benuty** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:54 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Benuty wrote:It is disliked enough for their to be a trope devoted to it's perception as evil. So you know popular culture counts for something.

And this trope is?...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... OfFreeWill

Be warned that you will lose hours of your life traveling through the vastness of this site.

by **Northern Davincia** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:04 am

Benuty wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:And this trope is?...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... OfFreeWill

Be warned that you will lose hours of your life traveling through the vastness of this site.

An accurate assessment of TV Tropes.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:07 am

Benuty wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:And this trope is?...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... OfFreeWill

Be warned that you will lose hours of your life traveling through the vastness of this site.

Which is heavily implied to be in the context of being said by a supervillian, so by bringing this trope up, all you've said is it's common for villains to dislike free will. Responding to "Free will is not disliked by society as much as you think" with "Many supervillains in pop culture dislike free will" is not a refutation, but rather a reinforcement.

by **Hakons** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:07 am

Benuty wrote:
Hakons wrote:
Oh man, people being responsible for their own decisions! I very much doubt free will is as disliked as you think it is.

It is disliked enough for their to be a trope devoted to it's perception as evil. So you know popular culture counts for something.

Frankly, I've only heard internet atheists complain about free will, and they complain about because they can't accept the fallen nature of man. Popular culture implies the anti-free will crowd is actually popular, and I have yet to see this.

by **Benuty** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:11 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Benuty wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... OfFreeWill

Be warned that you will lose hours of your life traveling through the vastness of this site.

Which is heavily implied to be in the context of being said by a supervillian, so by bringing this trope up, all you've said is it's common for villains to dislike free will. Responding to "Free will is not disliked by society as much as you think" with "Many supervillains in pop culture dislike free will" is not a refutation, but rather a reinforcement.

Being a supervillian isn't necessarily wrong especially if they are right via the extremist vlwas right or a Utopia justifies the means. Morality is more of a grey spectrum with stereotypical black, and white morality, and justifications being obsolete.

by **The Xenopolis Confederation** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:15 am

Benuty wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Which is heavily implied to be in the context of being said by a supervillian, so by bringing this trope up, all you've said is it's common for villains to dislike free will. Responding to "Free will is not disliked by society as much as you think" with "Many supervillains in pop culture dislike free will" is not a refutation, but rather a reinforcement.

Being a supervillian isn't necessarily wrong especially if they are right I the extremist vlwas right or a Utopia justifies the means. Morality is more of a grey spectrum with stereotypical black, and white morality, and justifications being obsolete.

Yes, but it usually is, and in the case of the anti-free will trope, and the utopia justifies the means trope, I'd say it is. At any rate, there are few points on which the majority of people in a culture and that culture's supervillains will agree.

by **Hakons** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:25 am

Benuty wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Which is heavily implied to be in the context of being said by a supervillian, so by bringing this trope up, all you've said is it's common for villains to dislike free will. Responding to "Free will is not disliked by society as much as you think" with "Many supervillains in pop culture dislike free will" is not a refutation, but rather a reinforcement.

Being a supervillian isn't necessarily wrong especially if they are right via the extremist vlwas right or a Utopia justifies the means. Morality is more of a grey spectrum with stereotypical black, and white morality, and justifications being obsolete.

That doesn't fly well with Judaism... or religion in general. Does God not give us a perfect morality?

by **Northern Davincia** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:24 am

Benuty wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Which is heavily implied to be in the context of being said by a supervillian, so by bringing this trope up, all you've said is it's common for villains to dislike free will. Responding to "Free will is not disliked by society as much as you think" with "Many supervillains in pop culture dislike free will" is not a refutation, but rather a reinforcement.

Being a supervillian isn't necessarily wrong especially if they are right via the extremist vlwas right or a Utopia justifies the means. Morality is more of a grey spectrum with stereotypical black, and white morality, and justifications being obsolete.

Haven't you heard that morality is really blue and orange?

by **Herskerstad** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:31 pm

Through super secret discord talks we have reached a consensus for the next name and it's an old classic.

It's okay to be right.

by **Northern Davincia** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:19 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Through super secret discord talks we have reached a consensus for the next name and it's an old classic.

It's okay to be right.

Genius!

by **Mujahidah** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:21 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Benuty wrote:Being a supervillian isn't necessarily wrong especially if they are right via the extremist vlwas right or a Utopia justifies the means. Morality is more of a grey spectrum with stereotypical black, and white morality, and justifications being obsolete.

Haven't you heard that morality is really blue and orange?

Morality is Boise State?

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