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[Tekeristan]

On the other hand, you had rampant land speculation back when. Today you tend to have land being held, not developed, or held empty (I.E companies holding build lots and houses to raise the price of other ones- lowering the supply). There are practices that jump about such.

Land speculation was rampant back then because land was the major source of wealth. The ruling class were landed gentry or plantation owners (who relied on slaves precisely because everyone else tended to have land and had no interest in working someone else's). Now the major source of wealth is finance, not land, so it's another ballgame. And speculation is just as rampant, it's just moved to much more fungible objects.

Sorry to her about your mother. :/

God's will, but the point is that no one can own their own land anymore, our homes and land are no longer inviolable. People can be deprived of their property without due process.

Property taxes are levied at the local level.

As are poll taxes.

It's a major source of wealth even now, tbqh. But the slaves were chosen because of stuff like Bacon's Rebellion more than people not really wanting to work. It was a choice between giving poor whites and workers more political power or.. Well. What they did. But just property is still a major market. Land is super expensive right now.
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Farming family myself, it's an oof that's for sure. But it isn't the cause of our downfall at the moment.

Poll taxes are prohibited by the Constitution. The reason why is because it was used to repress poor whites and especially poor blacks. Uh.. We have plenty of example in where they can go wrong.

[The Parkus Empire]

Land speculation was rampant back then because land was the major source of wealth. The ruling class were landed gentry or plantation owners (who relied on slaves precisely because everyone else tended to have land and had no interest in working someone else's). Now the major source of wealth is finance, not land, so it's another ballgame. And speculation is just as rampant, it's just moved to much more fungible objects.



God's will, but the point is that no one can own their own land anymore, our homes and land are no longer inviolable. People can be deprived of their property without due process.



As are poll taxes.

Farming family myself, it's an oof that's for sure. But it isn't the cause of our downfall at the moment.

Poll taxes are prohibited by the Constitution. The reason why is because it was used to repress poor whites and especially poor blacks. Uh.. We have plenty of example in where they can go wrong.

Property taxes likewise repress poor families, they make it impossible for them to own homes and land.

Poll taxes can be improperly used, but they were not started to repress anyone, just to raise funds. Introducing a progressive poll tax that charges maybe a dollar a month for those with zero income, is far preferable to property taxes. The more you make, the more you pay when you're polled.

[Canstan II]

Abolishing property taxes would also put a major dent into gentrification.

[The Parkus Empire]

Abolishing property taxes would also put a major dent into gentrification.

This too. It would be nice to set up a grant program to interest free loans from the state for newly married couples, so they can have land and a home. Lower the payment rate enough that they can afford it, even if it takes multiple generations

[Senkaku]

Urged on by a powerful ideological and political movement, George W. Bush committed the United States to a quest for empire. American values and principles were universal, he asserted, and should guide the transformation of the world. Claes Ryn sees this drive for virtuous empire as the triumph of forces that in the last several decades acquired decisive influence in both the American parties, the foreign policy establishment, and the media.

Public intellectuals like William Bennett, Charles Krauthammer, William Kristol, Michael Novak, Richard Perle, and Norman Podhoretz argued that the United States was an exceptional nation and should bring "democracy," "freedom," and "capitalism" to countries not yet enjoying them. Ryn finds the ideology of American empire strongly reminiscent of the French Jacobinism of the eighteenth century. He describes the drive for armed world hegemony as part of a larger ideological whole that both expresses and aggravates a crisis of democracy and, more generally, of American and Western civilization.

America the Virtuous sees the new Jacobinism as symptomatic of America shedding an older sense of the need for restraints on power. Checks provided by the US Constitution have been greatly weakened with the erosion of traditional moral and other culture.

Armed world hegemony and virtuous empire sound like two good things that started way, way before George Bush. :^)

[Republic of the Cristo]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

[Luminesa]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Consumerism itself is not bad, but when it becomes the central focus of every part of your life, then you have a problem. How much we consume is part of the problem, but the other part is also what happens after we consume that stuff. A lot of that waste just sits there and decays in landfills, and as a result many otherwise-livable environments become unlivable.

[Aillyria]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Consumerism itself is not bad, but when it becomes the central focus of every part of your life, then you have a problem. How much we consume is part of the problem, but the other part is also what happens after we consume that stuff. A lot of that waste just sits there and decays in landfills, and as a result many otherwise-livable environments become unlivable.

^This.
The thing is consumerism has become the focal point of western civilization, as a means of distraction and control. It's pushed as a value unto itself.

[The Liberated Territories]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Thar is a bit hyperbolic. I think we've made great progress in the private sector towards reducing emission and waste. However ultimately I think our true fate lies in colonizing the stars to reduce pressure here on Earth.

[Irona]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Thar is a bit hyperbolic. I think we've made great progress in the private sector towards reducing emission and waste. However ultimately I think our true fate lies in colonizing the stars to reduce pressure here on Earth.

Unless we make incredibly rapid progress in the next few decades it'll be too late. We need to make pretty radical changes NOW if we want to prevent serious environmental (and of course human) crisis.

[The East Marches II]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Thar is a bit hyperbolic. I think we've made great progress in the private sector towards reducing emission and waste. However ultimately I think our true fate lies in colonizing the stars to reduce pressure here on Earth.

This tbh, I'm hyped for space automated colonies

[Corpus Magnus]

Thar is a bit hyperbolic. I think we've made great progress in the private sector towards reducing emission and waste. However ultimately I think our true fate lies in colonizing the stars to reduce pressure here on Earth.

Unless we make incredibly rapid progress in the next few decades it'll be too late. We need to make pretty radical changes NOW if we want to prevent serious environmental (and of course human) crisis.

Maybe, maybe not. The truth is scientists don't really know what they're talking about when they predict future climate change, and it's difficult to tell how much of global warming is caused by human emissions and how much is natural. Changes do need to be made, but it's hard to say how much we affect the environment, and how drastic the future is environmentally.

[The Parkus Empire]

Urged on by a powerful ideological and political movement, George W. Bush committed the United States to a quest for empire. American values and principles were universal, he asserted, and should guide the transformation of the world. Claes Ryn sees this drive for virtuous empire as the triumph of forces that in the last several decades acquired decisive influence in both the American parties, the foreign policy establishment, and the media.

Public intellectuals like William Bennett, Charles Krauthammer, William Kristol, Michael Novak, Richard Perle, and Norman Podhoretz argued that the United States was an exceptional nation and should bring "democracy," "freedom," and "capitalism" to countries not yet enjoying them. Ryn finds the ideology of American empire strongly reminiscent of the French Jacobinism of the eighteenth century. He describes the drive for armed world hegemony as part of a larger ideological whole that both expresses and aggravates a crisis of democracy and, more generally, of American and Western civilization.

America the Virtuous sees the new Jacobinism as symptomatic of America shedding an older sense of the need for restraints on power. Checks provided by the US Constitution have been greatly weakened with the erosion of traditional moral and other culture.

Armed world hegemony and virtuous empire sound like two good things that started way, way before George Bush. :^)

That's correct, I have posted this article before: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... or-empire/

[Republic of the Cristo]

I want your guy's opinion on modern consumerism and it's future in our society.

I think that it is morally disgusting, placing our values and goals on earthly things. I also happen to believe it is unsustainable and if we do not dramatically change our consumption habits we will, inevitably, collapse our own biosphere.

Thar is a bit hyperbolic. I think we've made great progress in the private sector towards reducing emission and waste. However ultimately I think our true fate lies in colonizing the stars to reduce pressure here on Earth.

We currently in a era of mass extinction - it's not a hyperbole. Give another 50 years and we will have destroyed what remains of the rain forest, the great barrier reef, and the world's major fisheries. Space colonization is a pipe dream until it can be made significantly cheaper - which will not be for a long time, or in other words, too late.

We need to stop relying on fantasies and the future generations to fix our problems; we need to start taking responsibility now.

[The East Marches II]

Armed world hegemony and virtuous empire sound like two good things that started way, way before George Bush. :^)

That's correct, I have posted this article before: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... or-empire/

It is an excellent article. McCain is a trainwreck tbh.

[The Parkus Empire]

That's correct, I have posted this article before: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... or-empire/

It is an excellent article. McCain is a trainwreck tbh.

More like a trainrekt

[The East Marches II]

It is an excellent article. McCain is a trainwreck tbh.

More like a trainrekt

McCain BTFO

How will he ever recover? Did he change post-2000 nomination loss to Bush?

[The Parkus Empire]

More like a trainrekt

McCain BTFO

How will he ever recover? Did he change post-2000 nomination loss to Bush?

He was under Goldwater's spell long before then, but I would say that's when he started to bring it to bear in a post Cold War context.

[The Parkus Empire]

Is Carl Theodor Dreyer /ourguy/ when it comes to film directors?

[The East Marches II]

Is Carl Theodor Dreyer /ourguy/ when it comes to film directors?

I've never watched anything by him, what do you recommend?

[The Parkus Empire]

Is Carl Theodor Dreyer /ourguy/ when it comes to film directors?

I've never watched anything by him, what do you recommend?

The Passion of Joan of Arc is his most famous work by far

[United Muscovite Nations]

Is Carl Theodor Dreyer /ourguy/ when it comes to film directors?

I like Sergei Bondarchuk, but that's less for political reasons and more because I think his style of film is very good in terms of having both a large scale and great attention to detail, as well as conveying grand ideas, which are all things that should be taken from film.

[The Parkus Empire]

Is Carl Theodor Dreyer /ourguy/ when it comes to film directors?

I like Sergei Bondarchuk, but that's less for political reasons and more because I think his style of film is very good in terms of having both a large scale and great attention to detail, as well as conveying grand ideas, which are all things that should be taken from film.

Have you seen Ostrov?

[United Muscovite Nations]

I like Sergei Bondarchuk, but that's less for political reasons and more because I think his style of film is very good in terms of having both a large scale and great attention to detail, as well as conveying grand ideas, which are all things that should be taken from film.

Have you seen Ostrov?

No, but I've heard good things about it.

[Balkanized China]

What's RWDT's opinion on a combination of Distributionism and Georgism? Would it be a fair compromise between the right populists and social democrats to on one hand bring back small business capitalism and instate a progressive tax system only a small minority would have to pay for or would it be too onesided and lean too heavily towards socialism or capitalism for most folks?