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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:10 pm

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Keep jeering, bootlicker. You'll get yours.


I have nothing to fear, Al-Hoppeyyun (PBUH) is on my side. Your mere thoughts violate the NAP.

*weeps tears of joy*
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:15 pm

Something is not "ridiculous", btw, just because it upsets your sensibilities.
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Postby War Gears » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:16 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Something is not "ridiculous", btw, just because it upsets your sensibilities.


I don't think me or CM have had our sensibilities upsetted.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:20 pm

War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Something is not "ridiculous", btw, just because it upsets your sensibilities.


I don't think me or CM have had our sensibilities upsetted.

I am sure he has, since that is the only ground for calling Schopenhauer's statement ridiculous.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:43 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:I am sure he has, since that is the only ground for calling Schopenhauer's statement ridiculous.

You caught me. My delicate sensibilities have been upset. Dearest me. How absolutely bahbarous.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I have nothing to fear, Al-Hoppeyyun (PBUH) is on my side. Your mere thoughts violate the NAP.

*weeps tears of joy*

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:52 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am sure he has, since that is the only ground for calling Schopenhauer's statement ridiculous.

You caught me. My delicate sensibilities have been upset. Dearest me. How absolutely bahbarous.

Yup, essentially. Same with WG calling Schop a loon.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:25 pm

War Gears wrote:Thoughts on Ludwig Klages? Parkus, thought you might be interested in him.

I would have to read him, but I will take a look. I do not normally care for vitalism
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:26 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
The Enlightenment and capitalism are the primary forces driving modern degeneracy.


Long live the Enlightenment!

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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:28 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Long live the Enlightenment!

Jacobin detected.


Austro-Prussian invasion when?
O'er the hills and o'er the main.
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain.
King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:35 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:*weeps tears of joy*

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

Don't mind me as I steal this quote.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:49 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Jacobin detected.


Austro-Prussian invasion when?

Not really a fan of war, fam. Although I can certainly understand intervening when dangerous internationalists are taking over next door.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:02 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
The Enlightenment and capitalism are the primary forces driving modern degeneracy.

Eh.....capitalism, yes. The Enlightenment was, on the whole, a benevolent force and superior to what was before it.

Which Enlightenment thinker do you like?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:16 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

Don't mind me as I steal this quote.

Happy to be of service. :p
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:02 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Long live the Enlightenment!

Jacobin detected.

A high compliment.
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Postby War Gears » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Austro-Prussian invasion when?

Not really a fan of war, fam. Although I can certainly understand intervening when dangerous internationalists are taking over next door.


War is the father and king of all: some he has made gods, and some men; some slaves and some free.


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Postby Aillyria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:51 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Eh.....capitalism, yes. The Enlightenment was, on the whole, a benevolent force and superior to what was before it.

Which Enlightenment thinker do you like?

Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Hobbes, and Kant are some of my favorites.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:52 pm

Aillyria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Which Enlightenment thinker do you like?

Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Hobbes, and Kant are some of my favorites.

Okay, I like you.
We can be friends.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:58 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Hobbes, and Kant are some of my favorites.

Okay, I like you.
We can be friends.

:p

Of course. People take my distaste for modern liberalism to mean I dislike liberalism in general, however, I'm fond of alot of the Enlightenment ideas and classical liberalism. Both are very key to just societal structure, imho.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Mattopilos II » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:11 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Okay, I like you.
We can be friends.

:p

Of course. People take my distaste for modern liberalism to mean I dislike liberalism in general, however, I'm fond of alot of the Enlightenment ideas and classical liberalism. Both are very key to just societal structure, imho.


Wasn't he anti-Enlightenment in particular?
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:39 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
Aillyria wrote: :p

Of course. People take my distaste for modern liberalism to mean I dislike liberalism in general, however, I'm fond of alot of the Enlightenment ideas and classical liberalism. Both are very key to just societal structure, imho.


Wasn't he anti-Enlightenment in particular?

Rousseau? How do you mean?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Mattopilos II » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:30 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
Wasn't he anti-Enlightenment in particular?

Rousseau? How do you mean?


He shared some ideas of the Enlightenment, but liked to make known he was against the rationalism and social norms of the time. If it wasn't anti-Enlightenment, then it was at least a challenge to modernity he has.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:36 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Rousseau? How do you mean?


He shared some ideas of the Enlightenment, but liked to make known he was against the rationalism and social norms of the time. If it wasn't anti-Enlightenment, then it was at least a challenge to modernity he has.

I'd agree with the latter, I think he should be considered a philosopher of the Enlightenment tradition...but he seemed to have a slight taste for metaphysics. That's one of the reasons I like him.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby War Gears » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
War Gears wrote:Thoughts on Ludwig Klages? Parkus, thought you might be interested in him.

I would have to read him, but I will take a look. I do not normally care for vitalism


http://www.revilo-oliver.com/Writers/Kl ... lages.html
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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:35 am

Aillyria wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
He shared some ideas of the Enlightenment, but liked to make known he was against the rationalism and social norms of the time. If it wasn't anti-Enlightenment, then it was at least a challenge to modernity he has.

I'd agree with the latter, I think he should be considered a philosopher of the Enlightenment tradition...but he seemed to have a slight taste for metaphysics. That's one of the reasons I like him.


Rousseau...A man who promoted mob rule and tried to undermine the traditional Christian morality of Western society? Sorry, but I do not see what good came from his ideas.
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