Right Wing Discussion Thread X: Pol's closed

by **The Parkus Empire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:34 am

Lowell Leber wrote:This argument over what constitutes a family and what is traditionalism is pointless. The nuclear family, and the connection between related nuclear families via blood ties, and upon that the shared cultural/ideological/religious ties are what form the basis of a society and a civilization.

We're talking philosophy, not sociology.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:35 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor, duty, sacrifice, majesty, valor, might, splendor, chastity, ceremony, grace, nobility, etc.

Jesus Christ, are you kidding me?

Most of those don't even predate agriculture.

by **War Gears** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:37 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Oh? Mind telling me what the foundation of civilization itself is? I'm sure my discipline will discover a consensus from your new insight into the subject.

Honor, duty, sacrifice, majesty, valor, might, splendor, chastity, ceremony, grace, nobility, etc.

Besides those not being timeless, nationalism builds itself around a lot of those virtues, if not all of them.

by **Lowell Leber** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:38 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Lowell Leber wrote:This argument over what constitutes a family and what is traditionalism is pointless. The nuclear family, and the connection between related nuclear families via blood ties, and upon that the shared cultural/ideological/religious ties are what form the basis of a society and a civilization.

We're talking philosophy, not sociology.

These are not always completely seperate disciplines.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:38 am

War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor, duty, sacrifice, majesty, valor, might, splendor, chastity, ceremony, grace, nobility, etc.

Besides those not being timeless, nationalism builds itself around a lot of those virtues, if not all of them.

>> America
>> Honor, majesty, chastity, ceremony, grace, or nobility

Pick one.

When the Prince of Wales came over here, and made a hubbaboo,
Oh, everybody turned out, you know, in gold and tinsel too;
But then the good old Sixty-ninth didn't like these lords or peers
They wouldn't give a damn for kings, the Irish volunteers!

We love the land of Liberty, its laws we will revere,
"But the divil take nobility!" says the Irish volunteer!
We love the land of Liberty, its laws we will revere,
"But the divil take nobility!" says the Irish volunteer!

by **The Parkus Empire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:39 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor, duty, sacrifice, majesty, valor, might, splendor, chastity, ceremony, grace, nobility, etc.

Jesus Christ, are you kidding me?

Most of those don't even predate agriculture.

Nah, they exist in plenty of hunter-gatherer tribes.

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:39 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Besides those not being timeless, nationalism builds itself around a lot of those virtues, if not all of them.

>> America
>> Honor, majesty, chastity, ceremony, grace, or nobility

Pick one.

When the Prince of Wales came over here, and made a hubbaboo,
Oh, everybody turned out, you know, in gold and tinsel too;
But then the good old Sixty-ninth didn't like these lords or peers
They wouldn't give a damn for kings, the Irish volunteers!

We love the land of Liberty, its laws we will revere,
"But the divil take nobility!" says the Irish volunteer!
We love the land of Liberty, its laws we will revere,
"But the divil take nobility!" says the Irish volunteer!

Oh yes, the sort that caused all sorts of problem. We had good men who knew such things long before we let... less reputable sorts in.

by **War Gears** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:40 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Besides those not being timeless, nationalism builds itself around a lot of those virtues, if not all of them.

>> America
>> Honor, majesty, chastity, ceremony, grace, or nobility

Pick one.

America isn't really a nation though. "Patriotism" seems more accurate. I was thinking more of nations such as England, Italy, Romania, Japan, etc.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:42 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Nah, they exist in plenty of hunter-gatherer tribes.

... not really. They don't even exist in most pastoral societies. Hell, they don't exist in most early agricultural societies. This is basic anthropology.

The East Marches II wrote:Oh yes, the sort that caused all sorts of problem. We had good men who knew such things long before we let... less reputable sorts in.

The perfidious Anglo is just angry that his sort lost the Culture Wars to the Irish, Italians, and Jews. =^)

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:42 am

War Gears wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:>> America
>> Honor, majesty, chastity, ceremony, grace, or nobility

Pick one.

America isn't really a nation though. "Patriotism" seems more accurate. I was thinking more of nations such as England, Italy, Romania, Japan, etc.

>Italy
>A nation

You sent me into another coughing fit because the laughter. Its time to stop posting goby pls.

by **The Parkus Empire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:42 am

War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Honor, duty, sacrifice, majesty, valor, might, splendor, chastity, ceremony, grace, nobility, etc.

Besides those not being timeless, nationalism builds itself around a lot of those virtues, if not all of them.

Not precisely since those are social virtues, whereas nationalism is supersocial.

by **War Gears** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:43 am

The East Marches II wrote:
War Gears wrote:
America isn't really a nation though. "Patriotism" seems more accurate. I was thinking more of nations such as England, Italy, Romania, Japan, etc.

>Italy
>A nation

You sent me into another coughing fit because the laughter. Its time to stop posting goby pls.

How is Italy not a nation?

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:43 am

Conserative Morality wrote:The perfidious Anglo is just angry that his sort lost the Culture Wars to the Irish, Italians, and Jews. =^)

If I remember correctly, the last Catholic for president "lost his head" :^))))))))))

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:43 am

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>Italy
>A nation

You sent me into another coughing fit because the laughter. Its time to stop posting goby pls.

How is Italy not a nation?

Tell a Northern Italian he is the same as his brethren in the South. The old fault lines are still there.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:44 am

The East Marches II wrote:>Italy
>A nation

You sent me into another coughing fit because the laughter. Its time to stop posting goby pls.

That's what they get for being united by French arms instead of putting their faith in Garibaldi

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:44 am

The East Marches II wrote:If I remember correctly, the last Catholic for president "lost his head" :^))))))))))

Eh, he deserved it tbh. Ronald was an Oirishman tho, as was O'Bama. =^)

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:44 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:>Italy
>A nation

You sent me into another coughing fit because the laughter. Its time to stop posting goby pls.

That's what they get for being united by French arms instead of putting their faith in Garibaldi

I'm dying of lung aids, please stop. Garibaldi was a miserable failure. Italians don't do so good without help.

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:45 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:If I remember correctly, the last Catholic for president "lost his head" :^))))))))))

Eh, he deserved it tbh. Ronald was an Oirishman tho, as was O'Bama. =^)

>He deserved it

For the horseshit he pulled with the Orion Project fucking yes.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:46 am

The East Marches II wrote:I'm dying of lung aids, please stop. Garibaldi was a miserable failure. Italians don't do so good without help.

GARIBALDI WAS AN HERO WITHOUT PEER

YOU PROBABLY LOVE THE FACT THAT THAT IRISHMAN MCCLELLAN WAS COMMANDING OUR FORCES

by **Trumptonium** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:46 am

Why would any right winger want to repeal Peace of Westphalia?

That is nonsensical.

For the record I chose other because I would reverse the Potsdam/Yalta conferences.

by **The Parkus Empire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:46 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Nah, they exist in plenty of hunter-gatherer tribes.

... not really. They don't even exist in most pastoral societies. Hell, they don't exist in most early agricultural societies. This is basic anthropology.
The East Marches II wrote:Oh yes, the sort that caused all sorts of problem. We had good men who knew such things long before we let... less reputable sorts in.

The perfidious Anglo is just angry that his sort lost the Culture Wars to the Irish, Italians, and Jews. =^)

Then basic anthropology is wrong. Although in fact I don't think it teaches that.

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:47 am

Trumptonium wrote:Why would any right winger want to repeal Peace of Westphalia?

That is nonsensical.

For the record I chose other because I would reverse the Potsdam/Yalta conferences.

Because it was a flawed peace and better terms could have been achieved. Westphalia was a terrible error.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:50 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Then basic anthropology is wrong. Although in fact I don't think it teaches that.

... the study of the development of systems of honor and why they arise in some places and not others is a common subject to tackle in the field.

by **War Gears** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:51 am

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gkk ... r-problems

> only 90%.

That is unironically still too much.

by **The East Marches II** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:51 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:I'm dying of lung aids, please stop. Garibaldi was a miserable failure. Italians don't do so good without help.

GARIBALDI WAS AN HERO WITHOUT PEER

YOU PROBABLY LOVE THE FACT THAT THAT IRISHMAN MCCLELLAN WAS COMMANDING OUR FORCES

Marshal Radetzky taught the Italians a few lessons in manners. Even without his genius, they still held the Quadrilateral.

>When you have to trade France two provinces to get a shitty one from Austria

10/10 logic guys well done

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