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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:28 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Post your libraries, /pol/! I'll go first
History and Theology first:
>Fall of the Roman Empire, a New History of Rome and the Barbarians; Peter Heather
>Livy's History of Rome , books 1-5
>Twelve Caesar's, Suetonius
>Roman Lives, Plutarch
>Ammianus Marcellinus' history of the Late Roman Empire
>Orthodox Christianity, Volume I, History and Canonical Structure, Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev
>Two Thousand years of Coptic Christianity, Otto F.A. Meinardus
>History of the Catholic Church, From the Apostolic Age to the Third Millenium, James Hitchcock
>Major Problems in the History of Imperial Russia, collected by James Cracraft
>Russia: People and Empire, Geoffrey Hosking
>Emperor Qianlong, Son of Heaven, Man of the World; Mark C. Elliot
>Many Thousands Gone, Ira Berlin
>Orthodox Dogmatic Theology (it's not in the room, so I don't recall the author)
>On the Incarnation, Athanasius the Great
>On Marriage and Family Life, John Chrysostom
>The Enemy At His Pleasure, S. Ansky
>Nicholas and Alexandra, Robert Massie
>12 Years at the Russain Court, Pierre Guilliard

There's also a few Marxist books from back in my Leninist days:
>State and Revolution, Lenin
>Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, Lenin
>Foundations of Leninism, Stalin
>Dialectical and Historical Materialism, Stalin

And some I intend to order

>Byzantine Army, 284-1081, Treadgold
>Warfare in Late Roman Europe, Elton
>Late Roman Empire, A.H.M. Jones
>Saddam Hussein, a Political Biography, Ephraim Karsh (I don't agree with the author ideologically)
>Debriefing the President: The Interrogation of Saddam Hussein, John Nixon


In no particular order.
44 Days by Michael Veitch
On Christian Teachings by Saint Augustine
The Culture of the Teutons by Vilhelm Grønbech


It's really small, but I only got back into reading recently. I'd also add the Bible, the New Testament specifically, since I'm reading through that.

St Augustine is really good. If you want a good Christian philosophical work, "Confessions" is a great one by him, readily available in English.
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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:29 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I have had it. It gave me a profound attention span when it came to contemplation of suicide, it was like being lovesick for death--not even death, but specifically suicide. I am sure I would have killed myself if a gun ever made it into my hands during that period.

I’m sorry you’ve suffered through it then, but in that case you should be more sympathetic to WG then.

I am. I do not express my sympathy for her because I do not think she would want it.
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:30 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I’m sorry you’ve suffered through it then, but in that case you should be more sympathetic to WG then.

I am. I do not express my sympathy for her because I do not think she would want it.

...?!?!?!?!?!

Kindness is always appreciated, Parkus. You don’t have to ask for permission to be compassionate. Gracious.
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and the greatest is love."
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War Gears
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Postby War Gears » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:30 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Tsarist


I'm coming for that Siberia.

Image

Luminesa wrote:
War Gears wrote:My room is a strange little world in itself where the Hagakure sits next to the Gothic Lolita Bible, an anthology of Futurist Manifstos, and a bunch of other books completely unrelated to each other. I'd buy The Anarchist Cookbook to complete the set if that wouldn't basically put me on a government watch list.

I need to find a way to traverse 4900 miles in a single day so I can get my hands on the Tama-dasuki.

ROAD TRIP! :lol:


Lumi and WG in Road to Germany.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:30 pm

The East Marches II wrote:God damn it. I want to regulate the applaachia accent out of existence

Oh, you want an Applachian accent? In that case,

I'unno watcher talkin' 'bout feller.
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:32 pm

War Gears wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Tsarist


I'm coming for that Siberia.

Image

Luminesa wrote:ROAD TRIP! :lol:


Lumi and WG in Road to Germany.

I bring the snacks, you bring the car. ; D
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:32 pm

War Gears wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Bourgeois Dignity, Deirdre McCloskey


I ship you and Agritum so hard right now.

I swear we both discovered her independently.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:34 pm

I think my link killed TEM. RIP
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War Gears
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Postby War Gears » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:34 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:iunno watchu talkin' 'bout fam


God damn it. I want to regulate the applaachia accent out of existence


It is vulgar and foolish to look down upon the ways of one's own district as being boorish, or to be even a bit open to the persuasion of the other place's ways and to think about giving up one's own. That one's own district is unsophisticated and unpolished is a great treasure. Imitating another style is simply a sham.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:35 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Demons is not really a Tsarist work. I mean, it is a conservative work, and I am sure a Tsarist could derive much from it, but it never extols Tsarism anymore than Solzhenitsyn does.

I would say it's Tsarist on the basis that Dostoevsky would have identified his reactionary position with the Autocracy.

I do not think so, judging from what is discussed in The Brothers Karamazov. I do not think Dostoevsky had an "ideology"; Demons is precisely about ideology. Dostoevsky didn't believe a state makes society prosper, but rather it is a way to keep people in line in their destructiveness. Remember even in Bible, kings in Israel were advised against by God, but ultimately the people really needed one (and wanted one), because of their depravity.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:35 pm

War Gears wrote:
It is vulgar and foolish to look down upon the ways of one's own district as being boorish, or to be even a bit open to the persuasion of the other place's ways and to think about giving up one's own. That one's own district is unsophisticated and unpolished is a great treasure. Imitating another style is simply a sham.

<3
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:37 pm

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
God damn it. I want to regulate the applaachia accent out of existence


It is vulgar and foolish to look down upon the ways of one's own district as being boorish, or to be even a bit open to the persuasion of the other place's ways and to think about giving up one's own. That one's own district is unsophisticated and unpolished is a great treasure. Imitating another style is simply a sham.

I once used a triple negative in English class.

My teacher was slightly horrified. XD
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:37 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am. I do not express my sympathy for her because I do not think she would want it.

...?!?!?!?!?!

Kindness is always appreciated, Parkus. You don’t have to ask for permission to be compassionate. Gracious.

In the wrong context, expressing it appears obligatory and insincere.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:38 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...?!?!?!?!?!

Kindness is always appreciated, Parkus. You don’t have to ask for permission to be compassionate. Gracious.

In the wrong context, expressing it appears obligatory and insincere.

...If it comes from the heart why does it matter?!
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:38 pm

Luminesa wrote:I once used a triple negative in English class.

My teacher was slightly horrified. XD

There ain't no such reason for that not to be.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:38 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I once used a triple negative in English class.

My teacher was slightly horrified. XD

There ain't no such reason for that not to be.

It was something like that. I was so proud of myself.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:40 pm

It's funny. To natives of my area, I sound like a New Englander. To New Englanders, I sound like a Pennsylvanian. To Pennsylvanians, I sound like a Southerner. To Southerners, I sound like a Yankee.

To flatlanders like TEM, I sound like the onset of a heart attack.
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War Gears
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Postby War Gears » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:45 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:To flatlanders like TEM, I sound like the onset of a heart attack.


Funnily enough, that's what TEM's reaction sounded like when he heard my voice.
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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:It's funny. To natives of my area, I sound like a New Englander. To New Englanders, I sound like a Pennsylvanian. To Pennsylvanians, I sound like a Southerner. To Southerners, I sound like a Yankee.

To flatlanders like TEM, I sound like the onset of a heart attack.

I know this feel. My classmates always teased me about having a Northern accent, but my cousins from Illinois would tease me about having a Southern accent.
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The Parkus Empire
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:In the wrong context, expressing it appears obligatory and insincere.

...If it comes from the heart why does it matter?!

Because it isn't right to express sympathy toward someone who does not want it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:50 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:I think my link killed TEM. RIP


I did infact nearly die, it sent me into a fit of rage. Thankfully somebody waved corn infront of my face.

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Grand Britannia
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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:50 pm

I dunno how my accent sounds like.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:54 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I think my link killed TEM. RIP


I did infact nearly die, it sent me into a fit of rage. Thankfully somebody waved corn infront of my face.

Flatlanders only with corn
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:56 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...If it comes from the heart why does it matter?!

Because it isn't right to express sympathy toward someone who does not want it.

...Very well. Assume if you want. Why not ask her? Then again, I guess you know her better than you do.
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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War Gears
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Postby War Gears » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:57 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:I dunno how my accent sounds like.


Anime accent.
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