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If you could alter or overturn one of these treaties, which would it be?

1 - Treaty of Paris (1783)
26
5%
2 - Pact of Umar
9
2%
3 - Treaty of Versailles
365
65%
4 - The Peace of Westphalia
24
4%
5 - The Congress of Vienna (1814)
33
6%
6 - Treaty of Berlin (1868)
12
2%
7 - Treaty of Trianon
19
3%
8 - Treaty of San Francisco
13
2%
9 - Japan–Korea Treaty (1905)
37
7%
10 - Other (Please give your take in the comment section, only so many options can be added)
26
5%
 
Total votes : 564

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:50 am

FreeDUMB- wrote:Rape should be legalized.

How about no. *** Warned for trolling. *** Knock it off with the edgy one-liner posts.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:09 am

FreeDUMB- wrote:Rape should be legalized.


Harvey?
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Postby FreeDUMB- » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:59 am

Farnhamia wrote:
FreeDUMB- wrote:Rape should be legalized.

How about no. *** Warned for trolling. *** Knock it off with the edgy one-liner posts.

I never said it was moral or humane. I'm soley discussing the law by itself.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:05 am

FreeDUMB- wrote:Rape should be legalized.

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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:04 pm

FreeDUMB- wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:How about no. *** Warned for trolling. *** Knock it off with the edgy one-liner posts.

I never said it was moral or humane. I'm soley discussing the law by itself.


If it's not moral or humane then why should it be legal, quite frankly?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:06 pm

The Founding Fatherland wrote:
FreeDUMB- wrote:I never said it was moral or humane. I'm soley discussing the law by itself.


If it's not moral or humane then why should it be legal, quite frankly?

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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:08 pm

As someone who fishes, I have to say that's the worst bait ever.

You'd have better luck with an empty hook.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:16 pm

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:28 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
FreeDUMB- wrote:Rape should be legalized.


Harvey?

Darn, he has an NS Account. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
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Postby War Gears » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:39 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Caesar conquered Gaul, but Nicomedes conquered Caesar.

Lies and slander, not unexpected from the forked tongue of the Latin, combined with the cunning of the Sinophiles.


N-no. These are Gallic lies.

His Majesty, Julius "Husband of every wife, wife of every husband" Caesar, Conqueror of the Gauls and Queen of Bithynia, would never dishonour himself in such a way.


They were sung all the way home by good Roman soldiers, are you doubting the integrity of the legion? :^)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:44 pm

War Gears wrote:They were sung all the way home by good Roman soldiers, are you doubting the integrity of the legion? :^)

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:45 pm

War Gears wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:How am I in the top 3 worst people here?


You once told me that you would rape someone if God ordered you to. That's pretty bad fam.

That is a pretty stupid hypothetical. Might as well consider, "If God was actually satan, would you still worship him?"

Also, UMN, there would be nothing morally wrong about refusing to rape to save the world. That would not be a sin.
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Postby War Gears » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:51 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
War Gears wrote:
You once told me that you would rape someone if God ordered you to. That's pretty bad fam.

That is a pretty stupid hypothetical. Might as well consider, "If God was actually satan, would you still worship him?"


Numbers 31 lends some credence to the view that God was not above ordering rapes or massacres if it was what he wanted.

UMN's argument at the time (though it seems not to have changed) was essentially just divine command theory, rather than trying to assert that goodness is inherently part of God's character and thus he would never order such an act (though then you would have to choose between either that view or the Old Testament).
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:52 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:That is a pretty stupid hypothetical.

God: "Murder, slaughter, oppress, treat the survivors as slaves you can fuck."

You: "But him ever saying you should rape someone is unthinkable. =^^^("

Give me a break. I'm sorry you find examining the basis of your own system of morality uncomfortable. Have you considered getting over it?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:56 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That is a pretty stupid hypothetical.

God: "Murder, slaughter, oppress, treat the survivors as slaves you can fuck."

You: "But him ever saying you should rape someone is unthinkable. =^^^("

Give me a break. I'm sorry you find examining the basis of your own system of morality uncomfortable. Have you considered getting over it?

God ordering those has nothing to do with a sacrificial test, it is just divine wrath like the flood or fire and brimestone.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:God ordering those has nothing to do with a sacrificial test, it is just divine wrath like the flood or fire and brimestone.

Tell me what the difference is, again, between "God orders you to rape as a test" and "God orders you to rape because he's pissy"?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:59 pm

Sex slavery was illegal among the Israelites, by the way. Sex with captives required first to give them a period of mourning for their loved ones. Then, if a man raped a captive, it was required he either marry her or release her. No doubt horrific, but wasn't sex slavery in the Roman sense.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:God ordering those has nothing to do with a sacrificial test, it is just divine wrath like the flood or fire and brimestone.

Tell me what the difference is, again, between "God orders you to rape as a test" and "God orders you to rape because he's pissy"?

God never ordered rape as punishment.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Sex slavery was illegal among the Israelites, by the way. Sex with captives required first to give them a period of mourning for their loved ones. Then, if a man raped a captive, it was required he either marry her or released. No doubt horrific, but wasn't sex slavery in the Roman sense.

How touching. Remember, this is your God's divine law to the Israelites.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:God never ordered rape as punishment.

"Enslave them all and also you can fuck them afterwards without their consent."

Okay. Sure. He just ordered things that inevitably lead to rape condoned under His law as punishment.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Sex slavery was illegal among the Israelites, by the way. Sex with captives required first to give them a period of mourning for their loved ones. Then, if a man raped a captive, it was required he either marry her or released. No doubt horrific, but wasn't sex slavery in the Roman sense.

How touching. Remember, this is your God's divine law to the Israelites.

God doesn't order them to rape anywhere.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:01 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:God doesn't order them to rape anywhere.

He just condoned it and set his divine law out to allow it. What a lovely God you worship.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:God never ordered rape as punishment.

"Enslave them all and also you can fuck them afterwards without their consent."

Okay. Sure. He just ordered things that inevitably lead to rape condoned under His law as punishment.

If you raped a slave, she could no longer be your slave.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:If you raped a slave, she could no longer be your slave.

Yes, then she was your wife who you could rape. And is "You can only rape them once" really supposed to be proof of God's inherent goodness? Jesus Christ.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:04 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:God doesn't order them to rape anywhere.

He just condoned it and set his divine law out to allow it. What a lovely God you worship.


The Israelites didn't follow God's law such as it was.
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