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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:09 pm

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And in what way is it generalising "Pro life, Republican, qpoliticians(sic)"?


By stating that...

But once they're born they become parasitic leeches and then it's no big deal if they're molested by someone older. Especially with their mothers' permission.


...is how they work.


Pointing out the marked correlation between pro-lifers and people who refer to welfare claimants as leeches and scroungers isn't really a generalisation.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
By stating that...



...is how they work.


Pointing out the marked correlation between pro-lifers and people who refer to welfare claimants as leeches and scroungers isn't really a generalisation.


What he did is. That is literally what a generalization is.
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Postby Datlofff » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:47 pm

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Massachusettsan Pocahontas wrote:Innocent until proven guilty. No judgement from me until a Court decides to convict him.

Quick question: Do you feel the same way about Bill Clrinton?

Also, we can certainly make a judgement even without a court ruling if we have multiple verified accounts of him being a creepy pile of hypocritical fundamentalist scum.


Y'know, people can lie, unless we have actual physical evidence I myself cannot determine him to be guilty. Thats why juries rarely convict based on he said she said.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:48 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Liriena wrote:Quick question: Do you feel the same way about Bill Clrinton?

Also, we can certainly make a judgement even without a court ruling if we have multiple verified accounts of him being a creepy pile of hypocritical fundamentalist scum.


Y'know, people can lie, unless we have actual physical evidence I myself cannot determine him to be guilty. Thats why juries rarely convict based on he said she said.

I'm not a jury. Are you?

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:00 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And in what way is it generalising "Pro life, Republican, qpoliticians(sic)"?


By stating that...

But once they're born they become parasitic leeches and then it's no big deal if they're molested by someone older. Especially with their mothers' permission.


...is how they work.


That's not generalising. That's a factual statement about how they govern. There are a small enough number of them (depending on your definition of "politician" that you can coherently make statements like that.
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Postby Datlofff » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
Y'know, people can lie, unless we have actual physical evidence I myself cannot determine him to be guilty. Thats why juries rarely convict based on he said she said.

I'm not a jury. Are you?


What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:03 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not a jury. Are you?


What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.


So I'm guessing you have evidence these stories are fabricated.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:11 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not a jury. Are you?


What point are you trying to make here?

That I don't have to base my judgements of Moore on what a jury might think. Because I'm not a jury.

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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:39 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.


So I'm guessing you have evidence these stories are fabricated.



1) Moore is a Republican

2) Only Democrats rape and molest underage girls

3) Moore is innocent


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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:58 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not a jury. Are you?


What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.

Probably?

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Postby Dahon » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:59 pm

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:08 pm


Anything about how they should be in his office with their legs spread out?
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Postby Herador » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:14 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.

Probably?

If you have 50+ people coordinating a series of stories good enough to convince multiple national syndicated news networks and the only recourse of the accused is to whine and flail, then yeah, I'd say there's a pretty damn good chance most of those stories are legit.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:28 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
What point are you trying to make here? Just because somebody, even a ton of people, make a claim, that doesn't make it true. If me and all 50 of my friends all claim you raped us, does that mean you did? Ill let you answer that.

Probably?

I don't recall, but I'm sure I would have asked their mothers' permission first.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:18 pm

Every time I see this thread pop up; my first thought is what again?!?!?!
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:24 pm

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Anything about how they should be in his office with their legs spread out?

I think in that case he would also advocate them not running.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:28 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:Anything about how they should be in his office with their legs spread out?

I think in that case he would also advocate them not running.

Blows dust off the book.

The title is not women should not run for office

The title is women should not run from Roy Moore's office.
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Postby Dahon » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Every time I see this thread pop up; my first thought is what again?!?!?!


Roy fucking Moore is like a terrible fucking person but he is like the father of the Lord Jesus Christ so Alabamans will vote for him come December 12 MAGA

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:39 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I think in that case he would also advocate them not running.

Blows dust off the book.

The title is not women should not run for office

The title is women should not run from Roy Moore's office.


Of course. They are safe.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:40 pm

Herador wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Probably?

If you have 50+ people coordinating a series of stories good enough to convince multiple national syndicated news networks and the only recourse of the accused is to whine and flail, then yeah, I'd say there's a pretty damn good chance most of those stories are legit.

He's also apparently just been hiding from even debating or being in the public for like 10 days now. I think he knows that if he says anything, it will screw him up further. So instead he chooses to be a coward. I think if a politician refuses to debate, the other one should just show up by themselves.
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Postby Dahon » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:14 pm

He's actually been in the public eye for some time now -- just this day in hell he's been stumping and castigating his opponents -- gays, lesbians, socialists, who else? -- from a church pulpit, where he knows people love him.

I didn't know a candidate for public office can do that legally. Wow.
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Postby Ngelmish » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:03 am

Telconi wrote:
Corrian wrote:That tends to be the case. Apparently a likely child molester is better than a Democrat. The Democrat IS pro-choice, so that might not help. Abortion is murder, but your children don't matter once they're alive since a child molester is fine.


Well, I mean molestation isn't as bad as killing so...


Would you be equally indifferent to molestation if Moore wasn't for less gun regulation than Scalia?

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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:24 am

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Telconi wrote:
Well, I mean molestation isn't as bad as killing so...


Would you be equally indifferent to molestation if Moore wasn't for less gun regulation than Scalia?


I'm hardly "indifferent". I simply stated molestation isn't as bad as killing. And that would hold true if Moore wanted to repeal the 2A and throw me in Guantanamo Bay.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:29 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I think in that case he would also advocate them not running.

Blows dust off the book.

The title is not women should not run for office

The title is women should not run from Roy Moore's office.

Maybe if he'd gotten a remote lock installed under his desk like Matt Lauer.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:31 am

Telconi wrote:
Ngelmish wrote:
Would you be equally indifferent to molestation if Moore wasn't for less gun regulation than Scalia?


I'm hardly "indifferent". I simply stated molestation isn't as bad as killing. And that would hold true if Moore wanted to repeal the 2A and throw me in Guantanamo Bay.


How do you kill something that is not technically alive?
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