Roy Moore / Alabama Special Senate Election Megathread

[Genivaria]

Moore was banned from a mall in Gadsden for praying on young girls.

Preying?

No he was physically praying while standing on a girl, probably.

[The Black Forrest]

The entry was not forged. The part logging who it was her. She admitted it.

Supposedly they had a handwriting guy review the message and it was Roy.

so not proof by any means, I mean this wouldn't hold up in any court, at least none I'm aware of.

just amazed at how fast people will straight up label someone a racist pedophile without solid evidence.

I believe the statue of limitations has expired on this.....

As opposed to those people who think it's a conspiracy when 14 women voice similar stories.

[Kash Island]

so not proof by any means, I mean this wouldn't hold up in any court, at least none I'm aware of.

just amazed at how fast people will straight up label someone a racist pedophile without solid evidence.

I believe the statue of limitations has expired on this.....

As opposed to those people who think it's a conspiracy when 14 women voice similar stories.

Yeah, well meh I think some are true some are false, it's crazy these days.

[Valgora]

As to the other. His comments of all the problems happened after the 10th amendment.....

And before Kash complains about him being "unfairly" labelled a homophobe, let's just all take a moment to remember that this is the man (who almost fucking won a seat in the United States Senate) who said the US deserved 9/11 for tolerating sodomy.

So.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dXj4maiaOk

[Herador]

Moore was banned from a mall in Gadsden for praying on young girls.

As to the other. His comments of all the problems happened after the 10th amendment.....

Also his numerous disciplinary problems as a state official, some of which had him removed from office. Then you've got the stuff that just makes him seem shady as a politician and not just as a person like his refusal to debate Jones.

Seriously though, this race should not have been this close.

I mean this wouldn't hold up in any court, at least none I'm aware of.

Good thing this was an election and not a court case then.

[Bombadil]

And before Kash complains about him being "unfairly" labelled a homophobe, let's just all take a moment to remember that this is the man (who almost fucking won a seat in the United States Senate) who said the US deserved 9/11 for tolerating sodomy.

So.

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that about me?

Ultimately you should actually be happy you’re not represented by this guy, by all means espouse your political views but don’t bemoan the fact this guy lost. It will honestly do some good for the Republicans.

[Kash Island]

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that about me?

Ultimately you should actually be happy you’re not represented by this guy, by all means espouse your political views but don’t bemoan the fact this guy lost. It will honestly do some good for the Republicans.

I could care less if he lost, I don't know who he is.

I generally side with Republicans, but not idiotic religious zealots and the like. It just comes with being a Republican, the two party systems fits a lot of ideas in just two tents.

[Zanera]

Preying?

No he was physically praying while standing on a girl, probably.

I think that's just being rude though.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh look, whataboutism that doesn't address my point or actually refute what I was saying, but rather brings up an entirely different topic

What a novel fucking strategy, keep it up


I mean, the racist bit isn't from the sexual assault allegations. That's from him straight up saying, repeatedly, that he thinks America was better off under slavery.

As for whether or not it would hold up in a court, statute of limitations is up, so no, it wouldn't even if they had photographs and rape kits.


Wealthy whites and blacks did in Alabama, according to exit polls.

You're the one who mentioned rising crime rates, as if the GOP is to blame for that. Or have you suddenly contracted short-term memory loss? I simply explained to you that crime rates went up under Obama's watch in cities that are Dem strongholds.

Republicans have higher murder rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ss-chicago

-correction- misread the chart color scheme. Higher then Chicago which is a favorite of Conservatives....

[Senkaku]

Oh look, whataboutism that doesn't address my point or actually refute what I was saying, but rather brings up an entirely different topic

What a novel fucking strategy, keep it up


I mean, the racist bit isn't from the sexual assault allegations. That's from him straight up saying, repeatedly, that he thinks America was better off under slavery.

As for whether or not it would hold up in a court, statute of limitations is up, so no, it wouldn't even if they had photographs and rape kits.


Wealthy whites and blacks did in Alabama, according to exit polls.

You're the one who mentioned rising crime rates, as if the GOP is to blame for that. Or have you suddenly contracted short-term memory loss? I simply explained to you that crime rates went up under Obama's watch in cities that are Dem strongholds.

Which is hardly relevant, given that there are also cities that are GOP strongholds that have seen crime skyrocket, in which the GOP's main backers are the city's inhabitants (mainly white working class). I was mainly referring to the opioid epidemic that the GOP has helpfully promised to crack down on, as if that will help struggling communities, and occasionally suggested providing lots of money for but then never followed through on, and their abject failure to follow through on any kind of policy that could return jobs and economic dynamism to the Rust Belt, white working class communities that are struggling with shrinking populations and rising crime in the wake of deindustrialization.

And before Kash complains about him being "unfairly" labelled a homophobe, let's just all take a moment to remember that this is the man (who almost fucking won a seat in the United States Senate) who said the US deserved 9/11 for tolerating sodomy.

So.

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that?

Well, you "don't know anything about the guy", yet you already seem eager to dismiss every manner of allegation against him, even ones whose backgrounds are extremely well-documented, based on hearsay and lies from some partisan hack on the Internet. So that's why I'd say that. :^)

[Herador]

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that about me?

Ultimately you should actually be happy you’re not represented by this guy, by all means espouse your political views but don’t bemoan the fact this guy lost. It will honestly do some good for the Republicans.

The Republican's immediately taking steps to just put the whole thing behind them makes it seem like his own party didn't support him or want him to win.

[Kash Island]

As to the other. His comments of all the problems happened after the 10th amendment.....

Also his numerous disciplinary problems as a state official, some of which had him removed from office. Then you've got the stuff that just makes him seem shady as a politician and not just as a person like his refusal to debate Jones.

Seriously though, this race should not have been this close.

I mean this wouldn't hold up in any court, at least none I'm aware of.

Good thing this was an election and not a court case then.

yeah...we get it...

[Herador]

Also his numerous disciplinary problems as a state official, some of which had him removed from office. Then you've got the stuff that just makes him seem shady as a politician and not just as a person like his refusal to debate Jones.

Seriously though, this race should not have been this close.


Good thing this was an election and not a court case then.

yeah...we get it...

And yet people keep saying it, almost as if they think it matters.

[Kash Island]

You're the one who mentioned rising crime rates, as if the GOP is to blame for that. Or have you suddenly contracted short-term memory loss? I simply explained to you that crime rates went up under Obama's watch in cities that are Dem strongholds.

Which is hardly relevant, given that there are also cities that are GOP strongholds that have seen crime skyrocket, in which the GOP's main backers are the city's inhabitants (mainly white working class). I was mainly referring to the opioid epidemic that the GOP has helpfully promised to crack down on, as if that will help struggling communities, and occasionally suggested providing lots of money for but then never followed through on, and their abject failure to follow through on any kind of policy that could return jobs and economic dynamism to the Rust Belt, white working class communities that are struggling with shrinking populations and rising crime in the wake of deindustrialization.

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that?

Well, you "don't know anything about the guy", yet you already seem eager to dismiss every manner of allegation against him, even ones whose backgrounds are extremely well-documented, based on hearsay and lies from some partisan hack on the Internet. So that's why I'd say that. :^)

I didn't dismiss anything, I just wanted to know the evidence, when people scream racism/pedophilia that's pretty damn serious.

besides if hes anti-gay etc etc etc then I'm happy he lost.

[Senkaku]

Ultimately you should actually be happy you’re not represented by this guy, by all means espouse your political views but don’t bemoan the fact this guy lost. It will honestly do some good for the Republicans.

I could care less if he lost, I don't know who he is.

I find it difficult to believe that any informed person professing to have any level of political opinion or consciousness in the modern United States, or anyone who occasionally looks at literally any major news site or channel of any political bent, could say they "don't know who [Roy Moore] is."

I generally side with Republicans, but not idiotic religious zealots and the like.

Then here's a hot tip: Roy Moore wasn't your dude. The man is a lunatic and he deserved to lose and should not be defended by anyone in the GOP who cares even remotely about the party's electoral success.

[Kash Island]

I could care less if he lost, I don't know who he is.

I find it difficult to believe that any informed person professing to have any level of political opinion or consciousness in the modern United States, or anyone who occasionally looks at literally any major news site or channel of any political bent, could say they "don't know who [Roy Moore] is."

I generally side with Republicans, but not idiotic religious zealots and the like.

Then here's a hot tip: Roy Moore wasn't your dude. The man is a lunatic and he deserved to lose and should not be defended by anyone in the GOP who cares even remotely about the party's electoral success.

Well some of us are busy and have lives and don't always follow politics. I heard about the race and something about allegations but wasn't following closely, not everyone has there face planted in politics.

[Zanera]

yeah...we get it...

And yet people keep saying it, almost as if they think it matters.

But it would matter if this were a court case.

[Kramania]

You're the one who mentioned rising crime rates, as if the GOP is to blame for that. Or have you suddenly contracted short-term memory loss? I simply explained to you that crime rates went up under Obama's watch in cities that are Dem strongholds.

Republicans have higher murder rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ss-chicago

-correction- misread the chart color scheme. Higher the Chicago which is a favorite of Conservatives....

Most of the cities on that list are Democrat cities.

[Senkaku]

Which is hardly relevant, given that there are also cities that are GOP strongholds that have seen crime skyrocket, in which the GOP's main backers are the city's inhabitants (mainly white working class). I was mainly referring to the opioid epidemic that the GOP has helpfully promised to crack down on, as if that will help struggling communities, and occasionally suggested providing lots of money for but then never followed through on, and their abject failure to follow through on any kind of policy that could return jobs and economic dynamism to the Rust Belt, white working class communities that are struggling with shrinking populations and rising crime in the wake of deindustrialization.


Well, you "don't know anything about the guy", yet you already seem eager to dismiss every manner of allegation against him, even ones whose backgrounds are extremely well-documented, based on hearsay and lies from some partisan hack on the Internet. So that's why I'd say that. :^)

I didn't dismiss anything, I just wanted to know the evidence, when people scream racism/pedophilia that's pretty damn serious.

And as soon as Kramania lied to you and told you there was just some forgeries and lies or whatever you were awfully fucking happy to just accept that, so don't tell me you weren't dismissing anything.

Anyways, hopefully you've gotten the point. There are mountains of evidence for the accusations of racism and of pedophilia, including statements by Mr. Moore himself. Fortunately he lost, so we no longer will have to relitigate this sordid potpourri of surrealist awfulness.

besides if hes anti-gay etc etc etc then I'm happy he lost.

Oh yeah he goes way, waaaay beyond most of the modern GOP in his level of homophobia. Pretty alarming tbh. I'm very happy he lost.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Roy Moore unhappy, refuses to concede defeat. Why not give him and the angry section of his supporters a small landlocked landmass - we can call it the Pee'd Off Isle.

[Senkaku]

I find it difficult to believe that any informed person professing to have any level of political opinion or consciousness in the modern United States, or anyone who occasionally looks at literally any major news site or channel of any political bent, could say they "don't know who [Roy Moore] is."


Then here's a hot tip: Roy Moore wasn't your dude. The man is a lunatic and he deserved to lose and should not be defended by anyone in the GOP who cares even remotely about the party's electoral success.

Well some of us are busy and have lives and don't always follow politics. I heard about the race and something about allegations but wasn't following closely, not everyone has there face planted in politics.

In which case, here's some advice: don't just go with whatever the first poster on an Internet forum tells you.

[Kash Island]

I didn't dismiss anything, I just wanted to know the evidence, when people scream racism/pedophilia that's pretty damn serious.

And as soon as Kramania lied to you and told you there was just some forgeries and lies or whatever you were awfully fucking happy to just accept that, so don't tell me you weren't dismissing anything.

Anyways, hopefully you've gotten the point. There are mountains of evidence for the accusations of racism and of pedophilia, including statements by Mr. Moore himself. Fortunately he lost, so we no longer will have to relitigate this sordid potpourri of surrealist awfulness.

besides if hes anti-gay etc etc etc then I'm happy he lost.

Oh yeah he goes way, waaaay beyond most of the modern GOP in his level of homophobia. Pretty alarming tbh.

yes, i tend to align myself with others of my beliefs and usually agree with them at face value to a certain extent.

That dosn't mean lock/shut i like the damn guy.

[Kramania]

You're the one who mentioned rising crime rates, as if the GOP is to blame for that. Or have you suddenly contracted short-term memory loss? I simply explained to you that crime rates went up under Obama's watch in cities that are Dem strongholds.

Which is hardly relevant, given that there are also cities that are GOP strongholds that have seen crime skyrocket, in which the GOP's main backers are the city's inhabitants (mainly white working class). I was mainly referring to the opioid epidemic that the GOP has helpfully promised to crack down on, as if that will help struggling communities, and occasionally suggested providing lots of money for but then never followed through on, and their abject failure to follow through on any kind of policy that could return jobs and economic dynamism to the Rust Belt, white working class communities that are struggling with shrinking populations and rising crime in the wake of deindustrialization.

I don't know anything about the guy....why would I say that he was "unfairly" labelled a homophobe...

why would you even say that?

Well, you "don't know anything about the guy", yet you already seem eager to dismiss every manner of allegation against him, even ones whose backgrounds are extremely well-documented, based on hearsay and lies from some partisan hack on the Internet. So that's why I'd say that. :^)

So now you're selectively choosing which crimes you're talking about, eh? And the bit about the jobs was a bit of a red herring. Try and stay focused? The white working class didnt benefit from 8 years of Obama and the two years he had with a Democrat dominated Congress. Your side had 8 years to make its case. Yoy failed. The simple fact of the matter is that you attempted to blame Republicans for rising crime, when all throughout the 8 years of a Democrat in the WH it went up. I don't intend to go into some lengthy rant because I'm tired. I'll simply say you were wrong and blatantly so.

[Kash Island]

Now only if we can have California go red..that would be amazing.

[The Black Forrest]

Republicans have higher murder rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ss-chicago

-correction- misread the chart color scheme. Higher the Chicago which is a favorite of Conservatives....

Most of the cities on that list are Democrat cities.

And I believe there are more democratic mayors especially large cities then republican. It would take more research as to the reasons for each city then a simple claim of who is better.