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Zimbabwe: Mugabe's Fall & Its Aftermath

Postby Rupudska » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:43 pm

http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe ... integrate/

JOHANNESBURG – President Robert Mugabe and the Generation 40 (G40) Faction were today expelled from the ruling Zanu-PF by the Zimbabwe National Liberation War Veterans Association (ZNLWVA).

The war veterans accused Mugabe and the G40 Faction of corruption and of being anti-revolutionary. They denounced the sacking of former Vice President Emmerson and instead sacked Mugabe and his G40 allies.

It’s highly unlikely that this purported expulsion will have any effect whatsoever. It may instead, draw unwarranted attention on the war veterans themselves, forcing the powers that be to take action against them.


In what is probably an ultimately symbolic move, the party currently running Zimbabwe has given Mugabe and his entire faction the boot today. Symbolic, yes, but also showing just how unstable the situation in Zimbabwe is. Don't break out the FALs and short pants yet though, as Mugabe remains in power and the Zanu-PF has yet to find someone to replace him.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:03 pm

Rupudska wrote:http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/mugabe-wife-expelled-ruling-party-zanu-pf-disintegrate/

JOHANNESBURG – President Robert Mugabe and the Generation 40 (G40) Faction were today expelled from the ruling Zanu-PF by the Zimbabwe National Liberation War Veterans Association (ZNLWVA).

The war veterans accused Mugabe and the G40 Faction of corruption and of being anti-revolutionary. They denounced the sacking of former Vice President Emmerson and instead sacked Mugabe and his G40 allies.

It’s highly unlikely that this purported expulsion will have any effect whatsoever. It may instead, draw unwarranted attention on the war veterans themselves, forcing the powers that be to take action against them.


In what is probably an ultimately symbolic move, the party currently running Zimbabwe has given Mugabe and his entire faction the boot today. Symbolic, yes, but also showing just how unstable the situation in Zimbabwe is. Don't break out the FALs and short pants yet though, as Mugabe remains in power and the Zanu-PF has yet to find someone to replace him.

Just in case the shorts are are standby.

While this probably isn't going to be the end of Mugabe the past few days have been the strongest threat to his rule in the last decade. I hope that this will at least spell the end of ZANU-PF, though that's probably just wishful thinking on my part. I do wonder though what ZNLWVA's plan is if they haven't picked a replacement leader for ZANU-PF yet.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:07 pm

Rupudska wrote:http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/mugabe-wife-expelled-ruling-party-zanu-pf-disintegrate/

JOHANNESBURG – President Robert Mugabe and the Generation 40 (G40) Faction were today expelled from the ruling Zanu-PF by the Zimbabwe National Liberation War Veterans Association (ZNLWVA).

The war veterans accused Mugabe and the G40 Faction of corruption and of being anti-revolutionary. They denounced the sacking of former Vice President Emmerson and instead sacked Mugabe and his G40 allies.

It’s highly unlikely that this purported expulsion will have any effect whatsoever. It may instead, draw unwarranted attention on the war veterans themselves, forcing the powers that be to take action against them.


In what is probably an ultimately symbolic move, the party currently running Zimbabwe has given Mugabe and his entire faction the boot today. Symbolic, yes, but also showing just how unstable the situation in Zimbabwe is. Don't break out the FALs and short pants yet though, as Mugabe remains in power and the Zanu-PF has yet to find someone to replace him.


A sitting Government accused a member of anti-revolutionary activity... :rofl:

Oh Zimbabwe, you crack me up.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:08 pm

President Robert Mugabe said he fired Mnangagwa, one of Zimbabwe's two vice presidents, earlier this week for scheming to take power, including by consulting witch doctors.

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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:10 pm

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President Robert Mugabe said he fired Mnangagwa, one of Zimbabwe's two vice presidents, earlier this week for scheming to take power, including by consulting witch doctors.

lol


Want to take over Zimbabwe? I doubt we can do any worse than Mugabe.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:12 pm

I'm surprised the Neo-Nazis aren't heading down there already considering how much they hold it up as an example of oppression of white people.

...and I've answered my own question since if they took over they wouldn't be able to hide behind it to claim they're victims too.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:13 pm

Shofercia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:lol


Want to take over Zimbabwe? I doubt we can do any worse than Mugabe.

I can guarantee anyone, and I mean anyone, at this point is better than Mugabe. Hell a cardboard cutout of Mugabe and a flower pot would probably be better for the country.

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:14 pm

Rupudska wrote:http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/mugabe-wife-expelled-ruling-party-zanu-pf-disintegrate/

JOHANNESBURG – President Robert Mugabe and the Generation 40 (G40) Faction were today expelled from the ruling Zanu-PF by the Zimbabwe National Liberation War Veterans Association (ZNLWVA).

The war veterans accused Mugabe and the G40 Faction of corruption and of being anti-revolutionary. They denounced the sacking of former Vice President Emmerson and instead sacked Mugabe and his G40 allies.

It’s highly unlikely that this purported expulsion will have any effect whatsoever. It may instead, draw unwarranted attention on the war veterans themselves, forcing the powers that be to take action against them.


In what is probably an ultimately symbolic move, the party currently running Zimbabwe has given Mugabe and his entire faction the boot today. Symbolic, yes, but also showing just how unstable the situation in Zimbabwe is. Don't break out the FALs and short pants yet though, as Mugabe remains in power and the Zanu-PF has yet to find someone to replace him.

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:15 pm

Vassenor wrote:I'm surprised the Neo-Nazis aren't heading down there already considering how much they hold it up as an example of oppression of white people.

...and I've answered my own question since if they took over they wouldn't be able to hide behind it to claim they're victims too.

Great so you have nothing else to contribute to the thread. Goodbye!
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:19 pm

Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:19 pm

Heloin wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Want to take over Zimbabwe? I doubt we can do any worse than Mugabe.

I can guarantee anyone, and I mean anyone, at this point is better than Mugabe. Hell a cardboard cutout of Mugabe and a flower pot would probably be better for the country.

Grace would be worse.

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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:19 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Heloin wrote:I can guarantee anyone, and I mean anyone, at this point is better than Mugabe. Hell a cardboard cutout of Mugabe and a flower pot would probably be better for the country.

Grace would be worse.


Grace?
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:21 pm

Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

Harambee is actually a term in Kenya for fundraising and community efforts, so not impossible.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:22 pm

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Vassenor wrote:I'm surprised the Neo-Nazis aren't heading down there already considering how much they hold it up as an example of oppression of white people.

...and I've answered my own question since if they took over they wouldn't be able to hide behind it to claim they're victims too.

Great so you have nothing else to contribute to the thread. Goodbye!


Right, because responding to someone's post about people trying to take over the country is not contributing to the thread apparently. :roll:
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Postby Bhikkustan » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:22 pm

Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

But that's the state ideology of Kenya...
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:23 pm

Shofercia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Grace would be worse.


Grace?

Grace Mugabe, Robert's wife, and the person who has been considered for some time now to be his likely successor.

I honestly don't know how much this news changes things, it's a recent development and there's not much info on it yet. I'm not well versed in Zimbabwean politics (and certainly nobody else on this forum is either lol), so I've got no idea what the effects might be. She might still be poised to succeed him, she might not. I'll wait for Africa is a Country to comment, I guess.

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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:24 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

Harambee is actually a term in Kenya for fundraising and community efforts, so not impossible.


That's good to know, thank you! How about this slogan: "The Harambe Tourism Agency Welcomes You to Zimbabwe!" Think that'll fly?
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:26 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

But that's the state ideology of Kenya...


Harambe is the state ideology of the place where Obama's father was born? This thread's very informative!
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:27 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:But that's the state ideology of Kenya...


Harambe is the state ideology of the place where Obama's father was born? This thread's very informative!

Shouldn't be long before someone photoshops Obama's head on a gorilla torso.
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Western Pacific Territories wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

Harambee is actually a term in Kenya for fundraising and community efforts, so not impossible.

It's not only used in Kenya.

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Postby Shofercia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:27 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Grace?

Grace Mugabe, Robert's wife, and the person who has been considered for some time now to be his likely successor.

I honestly don't know how much this news changes things, it's a recent development and there's not much info on it yet. I'm not well versed in Zimbabwean politics (and certainly nobody else on this forum is either lol), so I've got no idea what the effects might be. She might still be poised to succeed him, she might not. I'll wait for Africa is a Country to comment, I guess.


Hahaha. So then there's two things that need to be done: first, rename capital to Harambe. Second, change national anthem to Amazing Grace.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:28 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Is there a way we can rename the capital from Harare to Harambe? Just change the "r" to the "mb" - that'd work, right? :P

But that's the state ideology of Kenya...

Kenya doesn't have any unitary state ideology. A lot of the shitty parties we have are blended from a lot of influences, such as western social democracy for ODM. For the current government, it is basically centre-right with a mix of religion(Christianity) to it.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:29 pm

I honestly question if this will do anything. Mugabe has done well being a good dictator, and has survived for so long. It would be surprising to see him go.

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