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What is your favorite conservative political party?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Liberal Party of Australia
1
5%
Democrats (Brazil)
0
No votes
Kuomintang (Taiwan)
7
35%
Republicans (France)
3
15%
Christian Democrat Union (Germany)
3
15%
Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)
2
10%
Liberty Korea Party (South Korea)
1
5%
People's Party (Spain)
0
No votes
Conservative and Unionist Party (United Kingdom)
2
10%
Independent Democratic Union (Chile)
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:38 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'd say a decent step in the right direction. And given the current political climate and situation, this is great news.

Very true, but we are still left with the issue of the deficit.

Oh well. I'd suggest huge cuts, but until then lets enjoy tax cuts.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:48 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Very true, but we are still left with the issue of the deficit.

Oh well. I'd suggest huge cuts, but until then lets enjoy tax cuts.

I dislike that kind of dismissiveness toward the problem. Tax cuts are good, certainly, but the spending cuts are not large enough and I do not see congress taking the proper steps to limiting itself.
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:37 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Oh well. I'd suggest huge cuts, but until then lets enjoy tax cuts.

I dislike that kind of dismissiveness toward the problem. Tax cuts are good, certainly, but the spending cuts are not large enough and I do not see congress taking the proper steps to limiting itself.

Spending cuts are pretty difficult to do though. Or at least convincing those in government to do so.

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Postby Arlenton » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:37 pm

Voted for Eastwood BTW.

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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:27 pm

Gene Simmons is an ass, he used to go to my gym.

I would have to vote for Dwayne Johnson in the poll. Just an all around good guy.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Oh well. I'd suggest huge cuts, but until then lets enjoy tax cuts.

I dislike that kind of dismissiveness toward the problem. Tax cuts are good, certainly, but the spending cuts are not large enough and I do not see congress taking the proper steps to limiting itself.


Not to mention the proposed increases to defense spending as well, that doesn't help.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:44 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I dislike that kind of dismissiveness toward the problem. Tax cuts are good, certainly, but the spending cuts are not large enough and I do not see congress taking the proper steps to limiting itself.


Not to mention the proposed increases to defense spending as well, that doesn't help.


Tax cuts + keeping current loopholes + not offering any tax relief for the working class, coupled with nowhere near enough cuts in spending = fiscal responsibility apparently.

I knew the GOP didn't believe in climate change, but I figured they at least believed in basic fucking accounting.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:10 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Not to mention the proposed increases to defense spending as well, that doesn't help.


Tax cuts + keeping current loopholes + not offering any tax relief for the working class, coupled with nowhere near enough cuts in spending = fiscal responsibility apparently.

I knew the GOP didn't believe in climate change, but I figured they at least believed in basic fucking accounting.


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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:20 pm

Why is the Rock in the poll? Hasn't he even been floated as a Dem candidate? :p
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Postby Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:32 pm

Senkaku wrote:Why is the Rock in the poll? Hasn't he even been floated as a Dem candidate? :p

He was a Republican at some point but he's fairly independent. Like Mark Cuban, he's been floated as a Dem, GOP, and independent candidate.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:33 pm

Senkaku wrote:Why is the Rock in the poll? Hasn't he even been floated as a Dem candidate? :p


Centrist meme wildcard party.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:59 pm

Telconi wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Why is the Rock in the poll? Hasn't he even been floated as a Dem candidate? :p


Centrist meme wildcard party.

dewit tbh :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:40 am

>mfw Clint Eastwood isn't winning

You're all uncultured
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:30 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:>mfw Clint Eastwood isn't winning

You're all uncultured

People want to vote for him but they're afraid of getting on his lawn.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:06 am

Telconi wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Tax cuts + keeping current loopholes + not offering any tax relief for the working class, coupled with nowhere near enough cuts in spending = fiscal responsibility apparently.

I knew the GOP didn't believe in climate change, but I figured they at least believed in basic fucking accounting.


Deficit spending is the economics of today, on both sides.

If we're gunna do it, it better be spent on siqq new bombers.

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:08 am

Senkaku wrote:Why is the Rock in the poll? Hasn't he even been floated as a Dem candidate? :p

He wouldn't last in a Dem primary unless he switches to a more left wing ideology. Like the opposite of what Trump did.

...Hmm

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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:53 am

So the RNC put support back behind Roy Moore, a credibly accused child molester.

It's like the Republicans are trying to lose any semblance of credibility that they have. And I was trying to have the party prove me wrong that they're anything but completely lost as a party right now.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:55 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Not to mention the proposed increases to defense spending as well, that doesn't help.


Tax cuts + keeping current loopholes + not offering any tax relief for the working class, coupled with nowhere near enough cuts in spending = fiscal responsibility apparently.

I knew the GOP didn't believe in climate change, but I figured they at least believed in basic fucking accounting.

Hey man, whatever keeps them in power while also keeping their MIC buddies stuffed full with money.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:>mfw Clint Eastwood isn't winning

You're all uncultured

Get of my lawn.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:20 pm

What are your opinions of Romney potentially replacing Orrin Hatch if Hatch retires? Apparently voters in Utah want him to retire, and Romney may run to replace him.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:23 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:>mfw Clint Eastwood isn't winning

You're all uncultured

Get of my lawn.


>mfw you don't even spell the line right
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:29 pm

Corrian wrote:What are your opinions of Romney potentially replacing Orrin Hatch if Hatch retires? Apparently voters in Utah want him to retire, and Romney may run to replace him.

So much yes to that. In Utah, if Romney wants the seat, he will get it. I really hope he goes for it, if not I do like Hatch. And if neither run Utah is a pretty establishment friendly so that's good.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:20 pm

Corrian wrote:What are your opinions of Romney potentially replacing Orrin Hatch if Hatch retires? Apparently voters in Utah want him to retire, and Romney may run to replace him.

As a Romney voter, I'd welcome him back in public life because he certainly has much to repent for. I want 2012 avenged.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:33 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Corrian wrote:What are your opinions of Romney potentially replacing Orrin Hatch if Hatch retires? Apparently voters in Utah want him to retire, and Romney may run to replace him.

So much yes to that. In Utah, if Romney wants the seat, he will get it. I really hope he goes for it, if not I do like Hatch. And if neither run Utah is a pretty establishment friendly so that's good.

I think I could at least live with Romney. I may disagree with him, but I'd find him an acceptable pick.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:10 pm

To the individuals that voted for Jenna Jameson in the poll, I am both surprised and appalled.
My hat goes to thee.
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