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What is your favorite conservative political party?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Liberal Party of Australia
1
5%
Democrats (Brazil)
0
No votes
Kuomintang (Taiwan)
7
35%
Republicans (France)
3
15%
Christian Democrat Union (Germany)
3
15%
Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)
2
10%
Liberty Korea Party (South Korea)
1
5%
People's Party (Spain)
0
No votes
Conservative and Unionist Party (United Kingdom)
2
10%
Independent Democratic Union (Chile)
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:33 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Senkaku wrote:And? Why does someone else doing a bad thing make it okay for you to do, exactly?

Why doesn’t it?

:roll:

It's this kind of thinking that will #MAGA I'm sure lol
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:33 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only frauds vote for bad policies...

"voter fraud is real because things i don't like happened!!!!1"

lmk when you find some actual evidence hon lol

besides "my aunt said she saw mexicans at the polling station and told infowars about it!" :roll:

It's an entirely different beast than gun control. Pick a different issue to be whataboutist about if you want to deflect about guns when talking to "fellow" Dems :^)


It was sarcasm...
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:35 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Why doesn’t it?

:roll:

It's this kind of thinking that will #MAGA I'm sure lol

If Chicago was removed from voting... That would be the definition of making Illinois great.

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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Arlenton wrote:You know I wasn’t seriously saying firearms should be universally issued right?

But anyway that’d Be Chicago’s problem. Not my concern. Not like they have concern for anyone else in their state.

"fuck my fellow citizens, my hilariously bad policies and their impact are their problem not mine"

But I'm glad you at least weren't serious.

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We also have crazy high amounts of uninformed voters who ruin everything. We both know we need a poll tax to stop the commies.

I too want to give the GOP an excuse to implement nationwide Jim Crow :roll:


He was pointing out to an opponent how ridiculous their point was. They stated how restricting voting would be a violation of rights - so he countered with the above scenario.

I agree with him that we need to restrict voting to fewer people - but it needs to be based upon tests of basic political knowledge. The uninformed should not be allowed to vote.
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
It was sarcasm...

You should do it better then :p

Arlenton wrote:
Senkaku wrote: :roll:

It's this kind of thinking that will #MAGA I'm sure lol

If Chicago was removed from voting... That would be the definition of making Illinois great.

Direct rule from NYC over the Midwest when tbh
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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:37 pm

Only wealthy Vietnamese people should be allowed to vote. Everyone else just sucks.

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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:38 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It was sarcasm...

You should do it better then :p

Arlenton wrote:If Chicago was removed from voting... That would be the definition of making Illinois great.

Direct rule from NYC over the Midwest when tbh

Thank God I left.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:38 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It was sarcasm...

You should do it better then :p

Arlenton wrote:If Chicago was removed from voting... That would be the definition of making Illinois great.

Direct rule from NYC over the Midwest when tbh


The point had nothing to do with voter fraud, and everything to do with people casting bad votes. People cast bad votes, but we still extend the right to vote to them. Why?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Young man if you try to implement a poll tax, no visits to the shooting range for a week!!!!1

No but seriously a poll tax is a bad idea and we're not doing it


I agree, tis just fun to shitpost sometimes.

Though an Affordable Militia Act doesn't sound half bad...

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:41 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I agree, tis just fun to shitpost sometimes.

Though an Affordable Militia Act doesn't sound half bad...

AKA What Needful Things Teased Us On.


I like that book. Well, most of it.

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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:41 pm

What happens if people don't want this Affordable Militia Act weapon? A mandate like the ACA? :P
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:41 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Senkaku wrote:You should do it better then :p


Direct rule from NYC over the Midwest when tbh

Thank God I left.

Get back here!
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
Senkaku wrote:You should do it better then :p


Direct rule from NYC over the Midwest when tbh


The point had nothing to do with voter fraud, and everything to do with people casting bad votes. People cast bad votes, but we still extend the right to vote to them. Why?

Because it's a fine line between telling stupid people they can't vote and getting shut out ourselves because we're on the wrong side of a political divide, and no one wants to be disenfranchised. You'd think, as someone who regularly complains about how he's disenfranchised by the Democratic Party's stances, you'd be more sympathetic and see the nuances that make this pretty much impossible to approach (to say nothing of the historical baggage).

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
I agree with him that we need to restrict voting to fewer people - but it needs to be based upon tests of basic political knowledge. The uninformed should not be allowed to vote.

It's all fun and games till some clever party operatives from the other side are writing that "political knowledge" test :^)
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:42 pm

Corrian wrote:What happens if people don't want this Affordable Militia Act weapon? A mandate like the ACA? :P


You could have an exception for religious objection.
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-Labor Unions
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ANTI:
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-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:43 pm

I'd imagine the 'bad votes' would be whoever disagrees with you?

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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:45 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The point had nothing to do with voter fraud, and everything to do with people casting bad votes. People cast bad votes, but we still extend the right to vote to them. Why?

Because it's a fine line between telling stupid people they can't vote and getting shut out ourselves because we're on the wrong side of a political divide, and no one wants to be disenfranchised. You'd think, as someone who regularly complains about how he's disenfranchised by the Democratic Party's stances, you'd be more sympathetic and see the nuances that make this pretty much impossible to approach (to say nothing of the historical baggage).

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
I agree with him that we need to restrict voting to fewer people - but it needs to be based upon tests of basic political knowledge. The uninformed should not be allowed to vote.

It's all fun and games till some clever party operatives from the other side are writing that "political knowledge" test :^)


I fully understand the ramifications. I'm trying to illustrate the parallels to a policy that requires a firearms license to be purchased, with the fees and exam written by someone who insists the second amendment doesn't apply to civilians.

That is just as bad as a poll test.
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:45 pm

Corrian wrote:What happens if people don't want this Affordable Militia Act weapon? A mandate like the ACA? :P

They will be forced to pay a fine if they don’t buy a gun they can’t afford. If you disagree you are greedy and racist against the race of the president who signed the law.


Also if you like your rifle, you can keep it.

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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:46 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Thank God I left.

Get back here!

I’ll be back for most of next month and until the end of January.

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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:47 pm

Albrenia wrote:I'd imagine the 'bad votes' would be whoever disagrees with you?

Close. Everyone who isn’t rich and Vietnamese.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:47 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Corrian wrote:What happens if people don't want this Affordable Militia Act weapon? A mandate like the ACA? :P

They will be forced to pay a fine if they don’t buy a gun they can’t afford. If you disagree you are greedy and racist against the race of the president who signed the law.


Also if you like your rifle, you can keep it.

You mean people can't get guns based on preexisting conditions and have a lifetime cap on guns they can get right now? Where are the disarmament panels?
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:47 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I'd imagine the 'bad votes' would be whoever disagrees with you?

Close. Everyone who isn’t rich and Vietnamese.

If I eat enough pho, can I become an honorary Vietnamese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxCAt5CGp0
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Get back here!

I’ll be back for most of next month and until the end of January.

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Close. Everyone who isn’t rich and Vietnamese.

If I eat enough pho, can I become an honorary Vietnamese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxCAt5CGp0

Possibly.

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:51 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:They will be forced to pay a fine if they don’t buy a gun they can’t afford. If you disagree you are greedy and racist against the race of the president who signed the law.


Also if you like your rifle, you can keep it.

You mean people can't get guns based on preexisting conditions and have a lifetime cap on guns they can get right now? Where are the disarmament panels?


Yup, yup, Sacramento...
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-Labor Unions
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ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I’ll be back for most of next month and until the end of January.

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I’m from Illinois actually. But I left in August.

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